Where did the Dulce Story come from?, page 2

Originally posted by johnlear
The altercation (it wasn't a battle) occurred in 1979. 44 of our top scientists were killed.

I've never seen a list of these "top scientists"... nor, in fact, any proof that they existed. Nor does there seem to be a record at that time of an unusual number of deaths of military officers (which scientists would be.)

Other sites (including one with a statement by "a Dulce security guard") talk about it as a battle that lasted several days and say that lots of people were killed. Schneider says 66 were killed and does't mention "top scientists."
www.burlingtonnews.net...

One thing that the Serpo critiques pointed out is that scientists just don't exist in a vacuum. They publish papers and all that. So it'd be easy to prove this (if it was real) with a list of those names and showing that they all died within the same (say) 1 week period and that they really did hold degrees (checking alumni rolls) and were working on stuff.

Instead we just get "44 top scientists" or whatever. REAL lives are messy. Fiction is neat. In fiction you can just have 44 people die and nobody cares or takes notice. In real life you have survivors and insurance and records and so forth. People have job descriptions and friends and scientists have research and papers.

In fact, the military personnel would have been buried at Arlington or other military cemetaries and there'd be records of their deaths. And there'd be people who remembered them.

The stories are carelessly tidy like that. Like fiction or urban legend (as Wikipedia says). Unlike Area 51, where unexplained deaths (and deaths from chemical pollution) led to a number of lawsuits by survivors and families -- and this at a top security base.

Like I say, it wasn't a battle and there were no troopships. The whole altercation lasted only a few minutes. As far as the whole town missing a huge battle there was no huge battle for them to miss.

Which is contradicted by other sources.
www.thewatcherfiles.com...

Not to mention the arrival of 300,000 children each year who are being experimented on and killed:
www.sherryshriner.com...

And every one of those sites swears it has the truth.

I am not sure who you are calling a dolt,

The ones who started the story.

As far as showing you where "this stuff took place" I doubt whether we could get a visitor's pass into Dulce. I know I couldn't.

You don't need to. Hop on Google Earth and point out where the road leading to the base is. Or was. Because the desert leaves tracks and they stay for a long time. Schneider and others say there's a nice paved road leading right into it.

Heck, everyone can pinpoint the entrance to Area 51 (which has been known since before the time of Dulce.)

So if you've been there, point out where the entrance is or was. History isn't tidy and you can't just "cover up" a secret base and expect every sheepherder around to keep quiet. Folks around there will know it and will know if it actually ever saw military/heavy truck activity, etc.