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Originally posted by soficrow
When did Doctors As We Now Know Them Come to Exist?
A: According to my information, Western doctoring became a profession when men realized they could make money doing it, and manipulate populations in tandem with the priests.
So the ruling authorities said female healers were witches, and killed them all - thereby expanding their turf.
Most witch killings occurred between 1550 and 1650. Totally destroyed many communities, because the healers served many essential functions.
("pharmacist") or poisoner, i.e. (by extension) a
magician, a sorcerer.
#5333 = word is pharmakos = same as #5332 = a sorcerer.
Thayer's Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament:
#5331 = Definition:
a. the use or the administering of drugs.
c. sorcery, magical arts, often found in connection with idolatry and fostered by it.
#5332 = one who prepares or uses magical remedies, a sorcerer
Moulton's Anaylitical Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament
#5331 = employment of drugs for any purpose; sorcery, magic,
enchantment (see also Gal 5:20, Rev 9:21 & 18:23)
#5332 = one who deals in drugs, an enchanter, magician, sorcerer.
#5333 = a sorcerer
Mounce's Analytical Lexicon to the Greek New Testament:
Mounce's definitions are identical to those of Moulton above.
Bauer-Arndt-Gingrich & Danker - A Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament and other Early Christian Literature - Second Edition - 1979. Page 854, top part of Column a.
#5331 = sorcery, magic, magic arts
#5332 = mixer of poisons. magician. to mix poison, make potions, practice magic.
pharmakon = Poison = a magic potion, a charm. a medicine, a remedy, a drug.
Origin was credited to the Egyptian goddess Isis ( Babylonian name - Ishtar - "Mother of the Harlots")
There are several Hebrew and Greek words which condemn the practice of witchcraft. In the Bible we find the words “witchcraft, divination, enchantments, mediums, spiritists, sorcery.” All of these practices are condenmed in the strongest terms.
"There shall not be found among you anyone who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire, one who uses divination, one who practices witchcraft, or one who interprets omens, or a sorcerer”
"For those nations, which you shall dispossess, listen to those who practice witchcraft and to diviners, but as for you, the LORD your God has not allowed you to do so.”
2 Kings 17:17
“Then they made their sons and their daughters pass through the fire, and practiced divination and enchantments, and sold themselves to do evil in the sight of the LORD, provoking Him.
2 Kings 21:6
“He made his son pass through the fire, practiced witchcraft and used divination, and dealt with mediums and spiritists. He did much evil in the sight of the LORD provoking Him to anger.
2 Chron 33:6
“He made his sons pass through the fire in the valley of Ben-hinnom; and he practiced witchcraft, used divination, practiced sorcery and dealt with mediums and spiritists. He did much evil in the sight of the LORD, provoking Him to anger.
“All because of the many harlotries of the harlot, The charming one, the mistress of sorceries, Who sells nations by her harlotries And families by her sorceries.
“Now there was a man named Simon, who formerly was practicing magic in the city and astonishing the people of Samaria, claiming to be someone great;
And many of those who practiced magic brought their books together and began burning them in the sight of everyone; and they counted up the price of them and found it fifty thousand pieces of silver.
Ga 5:20* idolatry, sorcery, enmities, strife, jealousy, outbursts of anger, disputes, dissensions, factions,
Re 18:23* and the light of a lamp will not shine in you any longer; and the voice of the bridegroom and bride will not be heard in you any longer; for your merchants were the great men of the earth, because all the nations were deceived by your sorcery..
The Scriptures condemn all sorcery as opposed to a proper sense of dependence upon God. In Galatians 5:20 witchcraft is listed as being one of the acts of the sinful nature. The book of Revelation contains several passages that condemn sorcery in the strongest terms (9:21; 18:23; 21:8; 22:15).
The Bible teaches that only God has the right to understand the realm of the supernatural (Gen. 40:8), and that intrusion into the realm of the occult makes one worthy of death (Ex. 22:18)(Also see Leviticus 19:31; 2 Kings 21:6; 23:24; 1 Chron. 10:13-14; Isaiah 8:19; 19:3).
It is interesting that several of the Greek words translated "witchcraft" and "sorcery" have the root pharm, from which our words "pharmacy" and "pharmaceuticals" are derived. This root (pharm) refers to "drugs, potions, and poisons." Those who are familiar with the practice of sorcery both among primitive tribespeople and "sophisticated" Westerners have noted that the drugs are often used to induce altered states of consciousness which, in turn, are claimed to bring increased knowledge, sensitivity, or even contact with spirits or "entities."(1)
Originally posted by Nothing Man
When did we need doctors ? Hmmmm let me see....wait, let me back up. Having served in Iraq (and proudly back on US soil) let me give some accounts of the village Shaman who came out to magically reattach the legs of a severly wounded G.I in my unit. Oh and there was the other time an Iraqi girl had seven bullets removed for her torso and lived when Chriss Angel came for a troop rally (that was a treat) Oh but wait, that DID"nt happen.
It was thanks to the extensively trained and educated proffessionals who gave an oath to provide care to the sick and injured. To the men and women who spend 18 hour shifts on call to come remove that staple from your eye at 2 in the morning. I am not by any means poking fun in your beliefs, I myslef am a true believer in the power of prayer. I just think it is a pretty arrogant inquiry to question the existence of doctors. I mean are teachers next ?
P.S. Proud son of a pediatric physician.
Originally posted by InSaneTK
Anyone can learn to heal, or already can. I have healed myself a few times, like headache, hand pain etc. It's not very complicated, you just have to believe you can and there is no spesific method, you don't need to use your hands for example.