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posted on Nov, 24 2006 @ 02:28 AM
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love will save us

what is important now is that we all focus our time towards enhanced ecological integrations so as to perpetuate ascertensions. all aliens are our friends. do not question anything. remember friends you had and heart of then. paint the sky blue and love will reign like you have never believed it could.



A person whom one knows, likes, and trusts.
A person whom one knows; an acquaintance.
A person with whom one is allied in a struggle or cause; a comrade.
One who supports, sympathizes with, or patronizes a group, cause, or movement: friends of the clean air movement.
Friend A member of the Society of Friends; a Quaker.

dictionary.reference.com...

At times when we question an extratime being [ET] we find that they do not support, sympathize with us but rather does the opposite for study and other wordly influence for their own selfish needs. I do support your wisedom of not questiong anything, but to love all. That is very heartful and absolute.

7A


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posted on Nov, 24 2006 @ 02:39 AM
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It'd be interesting to communicate with the other side. wow.


XL5

posted on Nov, 24 2006 @ 07:49 AM
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Hmmm John L has said to love as much as you can and has said there is a big soul collector on/near the moon. My question, have the ETs selected souls and put them in this soul collector so that after this 2012 event they are put back on "earth"? Also, is this 10% thing not really about love, but about the ones who don't FEAR whats happing because they have so much love?

What about those who post about rising thier vibrational level (VL) so they can enter the 4th Demension, is there any truth to that? Will any one be getting super powers in this world before 2012? Is time speeding up?

Also, as always, if the worlds gonna end, why do the people with the answers (ppl in contact with ET) withhold information on free energy and other such technologies?



posted on Nov, 24 2006 @ 03:56 PM
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Smallpeeps..
Can you please clarify what you think is real" in the gospel of Jesus. Is LDS the latter day saints? Do you not think Jesus was crucified? Thanks brother. Much love.



posted on Nov, 24 2006 @ 08:51 PM
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Originally posted by XL5
Hmmm John L has said to love as much as you can and has said there is a big soul collector on/near the moon. My question, have the ETs selected souls and put them in this soul collector so that after this 2012 event they are put back on "earth"?

Yes, my source confirms the existence of a "soul collector" on the moon. But really, what we are learning here is that the parents of the human race are extra-terrestrial but also intimately terrestrial also. I can confirm that there are souls which get bound up with Earth itself and which are reborn many times through the 75,000 year cycle. I have also read other books which describe such a device. But I don't think it's a collector so much as it is a nursery of sorts. It sounds like you are asking "Are souls stored there" and the answer is no, from what I can tell. Your soul is free to roam in the afterlife. My source tells me that the soul collector is simply a machine designed to facilitate birth, death and rebirth. The prison is Earth itself.



Also, is this 10% thing not really about love, but about the ones who don't FEAR whats happing because they have so much love?

That is an excellent question. Yes, I do believe that fear is reduced by love. Personally I try to face my fears and this isn't an adrenaline statement but rather the fear of loss. I try to condition myself toward loss and pain so that when such things visit me, I feel energized and more purposed. There is a line from Frank Herbert's Dune that I like and which applies here. It's called "The Litany of Fear":

I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.
Only I will remain.




What about those who post about rising thier vibrational level (VL) so they can enter the 4th Demension, is there any truth to that? Will any one be getting super powers in this world before 2012? Is time speeding up?

Yes people are now getting powers, mostly mental like telekinesis, telepathy and healing via touch. Check yourself and see what feels different inside your head. You might be surprised what you can do. Also telepathy is absolutely real and I can confirm this. Family members are more able to do this with each other.



Also, as always, if the worlds gonna end, why do the people with the answers (ppl in contact with ET) withhold information on free energy and other such technologies?

The world will not end. Evil will be moved off planet and those people will have a planet more conducive to the disharmonious and separation-based life they desire. Earth will move into a state of total harmony and union with only people desirous of such conditions allowed here.

As for free energy, I don't understand the question. This world is controlled by the money power which is evil's greatest tool. Nothing is free, nor will it ever be, while evil has dominion. That will change and then not only will energy be free, but so will such things as pleasure, satisfaction, elation, ecstasy, overwhelming love, etc.



Originally posted by GodbodyJesus
Can you please clarify what you think is real" in the gospel of Jesus. Is LDS the latter day saints? Do you not think Jesus was crucified? Thanks brother. Much love.

Howdy GodbodyJesus. What is real? Well, I am still learning about this but the gospel was managed and molded by the Church, so what truths are in it were simply not allowed to be removed. The Q Document is the source for the gospels anyway and yes, LDS stands for Latter Day Saints. Moreover this church has the Q document in a vault somewhere. They have other items of interest which will be revealed or so it is told to me.

BTW all religons have badness in them including the LDS church. This will be changed from within that church. I am simply told that this church is the least evil, with family love at its core. That doesn't mean bad things don't go on but they are fought internally whereas in other churches, evil is hidden and even cultivated.

The gospel of Jesus is that of a fully enlightened man who through his birthright could have become Pharaoh and had all the kingdoms of the Earth (literally and not via Satan) but declined, preferring to talk about a future kingdom of his which would be larger. It is this kingdom which is coming. Those who want a different type of kingdom or who want some kind of conqueror Christ will be given their desires but that's not what Jesus was.

As for his crucifixion, the main question is this: Did Jesus want sacrifice? Did he bless the temple situation with continual bloodshed? No, he did not. He gave humanity a new commandment: Love one another. I will take this farther, because what Jesus actually said was, "Make love to one another." You won't hear this from the sexless churches of today, sadly.

Ask yourself why some people need sacrifice. Why do people need to cut parts of themselves off (their desires, their goals) and sacrifice these things to "God"? Why does the church take men and make them sexless? Obviously these men's sexuality is placed on an altar somewhere. Look at the similarities between the image of the dead christ and the funerals of Nazi soldiers. When the person dies, their spirit can be raised high enough to command a whole army of followers. That's the nature of the Death Cult and they have weaved their magic around the life of Jesus very well. Many will die for the wrong idea, but they will not be lost. Jesus is most definately alive and not dead.

So to answer your question, no, Jesus was not crucified but the Romans built this story because THEY are the ones whose obsession is with sacrifice and the cult of Death. The people who want or worship a dead Christ are having their reward in full. They refuse to see him as he is, which is a human just like them. Also there is the Platonic ideal of Jesus existing in some higher place, above humanity. This is a lie because Jesus is not content to sit on a throne forever but is active and pursues love in action.

Jesus had three daughters with Mary Magdalene and these girls delivered his royal bloodline down to our day. He was a man with a loving family and a gift for speaking (and healing). Also, Alexander Helios, his father, was alive when Jesus was alive. When Jesus was calling out to his father, he meant his actual father who was not far away, specifically in the area of Mount Petra (Mt. Sinai). Jesus was calling to his beloved father, whom he visited with regularly during his life. Alexander Helios (the reincarnated soul of Moses himself) used that lifetime to study, learn, and to help telepathically guide his son through his ministry.



[edit on 24-11-2006 by smallpeeps]



posted on Nov, 24 2006 @ 09:34 PM
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I've been engaging in the "Proof Positive..." thread with AlienAgenda's technique to contact grays. Someone mentioned this thread in there, so I hopped over tonight about 6:30pm EST, Fri., Nov. 24.

I was disturbed by your posts, smallpeeps. However, there are many different possibilities for events that are to befall us over the next 5 - 7 years.

I'm excited to write, however, about an experience I had just after pulling myself away from your thread here. I was totally engrossed. Great stuff! But I had to leave to head to a friend's house, which is only about 2 minutes from here.

I left my place about 7pm and, because we live so close, I'll only see 1 or 2 cars, if that, on the way over.

So my head is swimming with everything you had posted. Really powerful stuff. And I was thinking that I'd had "flying saucer invasion" dreams since I was young. And I mean lucid, powerful, affecting dreams that stand out from every other dream I've had. And these dreams don't come from anywhere, because I never really researched or studied this stuff until the last 5 years or so.

These dreams involved a sky full of saucers, while on the ground, people were running confused and scared. These were powerful dreams. A friend of mine, who's a medium, did a reading for me and connected with a spirit guide of mine. I asked about these dreams and he told me they were memories of a past life. But I have to wonder...

So I'm driving the 2 minutes to my friends (I know I'm rambling) and I'm thinking the phrases "those with ears to hear and those with eyes to see" and I pull to a stoplight behind a minivan. It's dark and my headlights illuminate the entire back of the van. Then I look at the license plate. It's a New York license plate that says BKB-2012. I just looked at the 2012 and I had what you might call a "moment". It was unmistakable to me. This was a definite sign.

I was so excited about this, and felt that I needed to get it on here, that I couldn't wait to get back home to post this. Very, very interesting.

Of course seeing this plate doesn't mean anything specific, but it's g*dd*mn f*cking strange! Pardon my asterisk-laden speech. I also reached for my cell phone to snap a picture, because I couldn't believe what I was seeing, but remembered I left it at home (I live so close, and I don't really like being "reachable" I often leave it home when at this friends).

So there. Something is happening, that's for sure. But just what is a mystery...so very strange...



posted on Nov, 25 2006 @ 12:09 AM
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pure truth is pure love is pure hope

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energy is potential is entity

or

clarity


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eye of mind god is an illusion, heart of man earth is clear

something tells me the extraterrestrial biological entities are into science...



posted on Nov, 25 2006 @ 04:50 AM
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smallpeeps, i´ve been reading "the law of one" for hrs and hrs now, man what a piece of overwhelming material, besides sleepers thread it´s the most convincing piece i have ever read. It´s just waaay too large to be fictional. It´s also kinda funny how so much of the material kinda touches ALL the issues brought up within this board, i mean, it´s all there!

Thanks for posting the link in the first place



posted on Nov, 25 2006 @ 06:33 AM
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Hey smallpeeps, i agree with what your saying..you've mentioned some things that have got me thinking.

On the subject of the soul collecter,there is mention in the bible,book of revelation,were john saw all the souls under the altar. Im pretty sure what he saw was a soul collecter in the form of an altar.

I think of it as a rest station for our souls,like a place we chill out before we take on our next life.Would you agree?

On the subject of jesus.The bible does say he spent a substanstial part of his childhood in eygpt..but i never knew he was a pharoah.I did check the meaning of cleopatra,which is "fame" or "father"..and this is quite intresting because all jesus talked about was the glory/fame of his father.

There also could be a connection between the cat/lion/sphinx and why jesus is called the lion of judah.And also why some people believe he was african(egypt is in africa).In my opinion it doesnt matter,but if he was that'd be cool.


I believe when jesus ascended to heaven that a spacehsip took him,Would you agree?

Would you also agree the abraham lincoln is he the reincarnated moses.

-both freed slaves..that were not there own race.
-there was the crossing of the red sea & there was the underground railroad.

Could you ask you soucre about the ahnunahki.and see if they know about them,can you ask if there planet is real? im just wondering.

Thanks.

Keep up the good post



posted on Nov, 25 2006 @ 09:27 AM
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Originally posted by OnTheDeck
So I'm driving the 2 minutes to my friends (I know I'm rambling) and I'm thinking the phrases "those with ears to hear and those with eyes to see" and I pull to a stoplight behind a minivan. It's dark and my headlights illuminate the entire back of the van. Then I look at the license plate. It's a New York license plate that says BKB-2012. I just looked at the 2012 and I had what you might call a "moment". It was unmistakable to me. This was a definite sign.

Howdy OnTheDeck. Certainly whatever we see that inspires us or invokes our magical personality alongside our faith, is good. I am excited by your excitement.
But please don't circumvent the language censors as that's a no-no. Keep up the enthusiasm and find ways to be kind with that energy.



Originally posted by tomra
smallpeeps, i´ve been reading "the law of one" for hrs and hrs now, man what a piece of overwhelming material, besides sleepers thread it´s the most convincing piece i have ever read. It´s just waaay too large to be fictional. It´s also kinda funny how so much of the material kinda touches ALL the issues brought up within this board, i mean, it´s all there!

Thanks for posting the link in the first place

You are quite welcome tomra and yeah, The RA Material is quite a piece of work. I have no doubts about the integrity of Carla Reukert and as we see in the material, the Gospel of John was used to ensure that the correct spirit was maintained. Here are a few more links:

RA Material Study Guide [Condensed overview of the whole material]
Complete Law of One in .PDF format
Index of Topics
Searchable Database of the Law of One


Originally posted by TheSonOfMan
I think of it as a rest station for our souls,like a place we chill out before we take on our next life.Would you agree?

Yes I do agree, and thanks for your comments TheSonofMan. But I am told that some souls do not get to chill out but are shuttled to their next birth with haste. Usually these are the less evolved souls that are being kept under control because their nature is stupidity or violence. They are delivered to the proper karmic existence but not allowed to cause mayhem in between.

But yes, I should also mention that there are different types of heaven based on what your beliefs are. Last year, a friend of mine died. She was 76 as I recall. All her life she worshipped the sexless Christ faithfully. She was a typical christian prude, disavowing her personal sexuality and also not allowing her savior to have any sexual aspect. In short, she was not too atypical form a lot of Christians today. Well anyway, I inquired about her and was told that she is right there in sexless heaven with the sexless Christ, right where she wanted to be. I aksed if she would be able to make contact with me and it was not allowed. I was told that she needs to come to a more complete picture of herself and of God, before anything like contact would be allowed. This tells me that we must acquire a more mature, responsible attitude toward ourselves and our nature, in order to truly please the Creator. But partly the point I am making is that when we die, we go where we want and are often rewarded according to what we desire or know. If we do not wish to learn anything new, then we are allowed to stay right at our current level.



On the subject of jesus.The bible does say he spent a substanstial part of his childhood in eygpt..but i never knew he was a pharoah.I did check the meaning of cleopatra,which is "fame" or "father"..and this is quite intresting because all jesus talked about was the glory/fame of his father.

The hyksos ruled lower Egypt (which to us is actually the upper part where the nile delta is) and the Thebian priests ruled upper egypt. The whole story of Judah versus Israel is the story of Thebes versus Hyksos. King versus Priest. If you note in the book of Matthew makes a very large point of Jesus being from the tribe of David.



There also could be a connection between the cat/lion/sphinx and why jesus is called the lion of judah.And also why some people believe he was african(egypt is in africa).In my opinion it doesnt matter,but if he was that'd be cool.

I am not sure about that but I was told that Akenaten also sent agents southward into Africa to assimilate with the Nubians and african tribes. There are actually very long preserved truths and information about Moses and Akenaten in the eastern tribes of Africa.



I believe when jesus ascended to heaven that a spacehsip took him,Would you agree?

Really all I get is that Jesus lived his life and when his life was over, his soul moved on, again, to be reborn later. Also, Jesus was the original Able, son of Adam. What you have in Jesus and Moses is a long father-and-son relationship. They work together being reborn, working toward the final goal. All of this was set in motion by persons beyond Earth.



Would you also agree the abraham lincoln is he the reincarnated moses.

I am told that Lincoln was Jesus reincarnated. As the RA material says regarding Lincoln, he incarnated to fight slavery and to preserve the union in the new world. A new world where America becomes the soil of a whole new type of Earth. Also did Jesus appear as himself to the native peoples of the Americas as LDS beliefs describe.

Furthermore, I have been shown that the native peoples of America will be restored. In the future, the tribes will rise and they will be entrusted with the authority of the American continent again. Violence and poverty has tempered them and they will be the new priestly class.



Could you ask you soucre about the ahnunahki.and see if they know about them,can you ask if there planet is real? im just wondering.

I am not too interested in the particulars of aliens or ET. I mean I am interested but I feel like it's childish to pursue information through a channel before you have done the reading you need to do. Only by gaining knowledge can you have the correct questions formulated. Anyway, I did ask about the annunaki and was told that yes, they were the original ones who altered the DNA of the human race. And yes, Moses and pals were there also.

But what is key here, is to realize that there are two distinct branches of humanity. These can be understood by studying the Chimp versus it's genetic brother, the Bonobo.



The scientific name for the Bonobo is Pan paniscus. As their DNA is more than 98% identical to that of Homo sapiens [3], they are more closely related to Humans than Gorillas. Another study on the similarity of critical DNA sites in human and chimpanzee genes suggests that 99.4 percent are identical.


So many people know nothing about the Bonobo, but if you follow this line of investigation you will learn entirely new things about humanity. Essentially we share the same amount of DNA with chimps as with bonobos. Now I would like you to think about that while you read the next quote.



en.wikipedia.org...

Bonobo females also engage in female-female genital sex (tribadism) to socially bond with each other, thus forming a female nucleus of Bonobo society. The bonding between females allows them to dominate Bonobo society - although male Bonobos are individually stronger they cannot stand alone against a united group of females. Adolescent females often leave their troop of birth to join another troop. Sexual bonding with other females establishes the new females as members of the group. This troop migration mixes the Bonobo gene pools.

Bonobo reproductive rates are not any higher than that of the Common Chimpanzee. Female Bonobos carry and nurse their young for five years and can give birth every five to six years. Compared with Common Chimpanzees, Bonobo females resume the genital swelling cycle much sooner after giving birth, allowing them to rejoin the sexual activities of their society. Also, Bonobo females who are either sterile or too young to reproduce engage in sexual activity.

Richard Wrangham and Dale Peterson emphasize the Bonobo's use of sex as a mechanism to avoid violence.

"[Common] Chimpanzees and Bonobos both evolved from the same ancestor that gave rise to humans, and yet the Bonobo is one of the most peaceful, unaggressive species of mammals living on the earth today. They have evolved ways to reduce violence that permeate their entire society. They show us that the evolutionary dance of violence is not inexorable".

So the point is, we are not even allowed to know our true nature, these days. That will all change. We will become more attuned to our bonobo aspect.


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posted on Nov, 25 2006 @ 10:09 AM
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You know, I'm more liberal with the swear words on these message boards for some reason than I am in every other type of communication - this includes verbal. I really keep it clean otherwise. Don't know why that is...

Anyway, I don't mean to come off abrasive, or offensive. I use curse words more as a "fun", but admittedly acerbic way to get points across...Antually, if I read my stuff, I can see I toss a general amount in there sometimes...

Hope I don't come off rude or offend anyone. These words are a vernacular among the crowd I hang with. They're good people, but their indiscretion can rub off after a while...

If you met me you'd think I was one of the nicest people you know...Not to toot my own horn...

Anyway, wanted to set that straight.



posted on Nov, 25 2006 @ 10:11 AM
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Okay, I'm sorry but this thread belongs in the Religon forum.

You are taking the concept of Aliens and creating a religous experience around it. Heck, it might even be better suited for the Personal Predictions forum, but this thread does not further the study of Aliens or UFO's, and as such, even if it might be of interest to the general forum, its proper placement would be better suited in one of the other forums.

As for the thread itself..

I always like how it takes a few pages for all of the people having comunication with the same Aliens to get on the same page so they can support each other's claims. In this thread, sleeper comes right out and say Love is NOT the answer, but then later someone else states that this theory supports what sleeper and johnlear says.

Always interesting but hardly ever enlightening are claims like these.



posted on Nov, 25 2006 @ 12:01 PM
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Originally posted by HankMcCoy
Okay, I'm sorry but this thread belongs in the Religon forum.

Because aliens and religion need to be kept separate? Please expound upon your logic.



You are taking the concept of Aliens and creating a religous experience around it. Heck, it might even be better suited for the Personal Predictions forum, but this thread does not further the study of Aliens or UFO's, and as such, even if it might be of interest to the general forum, its proper placement would be better suited in one of the other forums.

I am happy if this thread gets moved, or happy if it stays here. I am happy if you are happy.



As for the thread itself..

I always like how it takes a few pages for all of the people having comunication with the same Aliens to get on the same page so they can support each other's claims.

You "always" like this? I think you are seeing what you want, but then that's the point. Do you have anything to say about the dozens or so points mentioned here on the subject of the afterlife, human relationships and history?



In this thread, sleeper comes right out and say Love is NOT the answer, but then later someone else states that this theory supports what sleeper and johnlear says.

Did he say that? I didn't see where he did. These two men you mention (sleeper and John Lear) have not had anything much to say in this thread and it is me who is associating myself with them. If you are confused, then simply blame me for associating myself with their ideas. Don't let me disturb your research on aliens with a thread about humanity, family and history. You were going to explain how these things hold no interest for ET or are irrelevant for "serious" ET discussions? Please go right ahead.



posted on Nov, 25 2006 @ 12:13 PM
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Originally posted by HankMcCoy
Okay, I'm sorry but this thread belongs in the Religon forum.

You are taking the concept of Aliens and creating a religous experience around it. Heck, it might even be better suited for the Personal Predictions forum, but this thread does not further the study of Aliens or UFO's, and as such, even if it might be of interest to the general forum, its proper placement would be better suited in one of the other forums.


If you would please take the time to read the linked source material you will understand that it most certainly has something to do in this forum...as well as other forums. Were is the most approperiate place to put a thread that deeply concerns several conected issues?



posted on Nov, 25 2006 @ 12:15 PM
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Sleeper

Here is my 2 cents, unconditional love is not required of anyone, it’s a gift for those who want to use it to their advantage.


You even replied to it, its on page 2.

He also said the rapture is already happening, which is totally different than what you claim..



posted on Nov, 25 2006 @ 12:26 PM
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Originally posted by HankMcCoy

Sleeper
Here is my 2 cents, unconditional love is not required of anyone, it’s a gift for those who want to use it to their advantage.

You even replied to it, its on page 2.
He also said the rapture is already happening, which is totally different than what you claim..

As I said also, sleeper knows what he knows and I know what I know. He gives me the freedom to believe as I will and I give him the same. There was no reply to my post from him, and so that's that. I fail to see how that makes your point that we are "getting our stories straight" somewhere else. He may or may not believe what I write here and it doesn't matter anyway. Except to people who want to raise spurious objections and derail the thread.

As for the rapture already beginning, I don't know what he means. I am sure he will explain somewhere else. If a few people have been lifted before the majority, then maybe he's right and I need to look closer. In any case, if I ask for detail and post that detail here, you will not believe so I will not ask those questions. I am less interested in consensus with others, and more interested in the ideas contained in this thread. I am glad free will is in effect.

But the larger question Hank, is can you contrbute to the thread? Please send a U2U to your favorite admin and ask them to move this thread to a place where you will be more comfortable with it. And once it's moved, hopefully you'll be able to contribute. That is my hope because any mutant who is able to become Secretary of Mutant Affairs, has my respect.


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posted on Nov, 25 2006 @ 12:48 PM
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From how I read the statements you quoted, Hank, sleeper and smallpeeps' statements are not mutually exclusive, but seem more different perspectives on the same phenomena.

Just because, as sleeper claims, there is rapture occurring now, does not necessarily mean that a more significant, profound, or different for of rapture won't happen in the future.

And I take sleeper's statement about unconditional love not being required of anyone a similarly different perspective on the same truths.

You have to be very specific here. Saying that unconditional love is "not required of everyone" is tantamount to saying, we all have free will; i.e., that anything universally "required" of someone seems to necessarily preclude the idea of free will.

Possibly, the finer point of unconditional love per se is not equal to serving others over serving the self, or, the fine point of what it takes to serve others over serving the self does not require unconditional love.

I guess if you want to parse words you can ask if a condition exists whereby a being can care for, or serve others, before himself without practicing unconditional love. Or are the two elements mutually exclusive? If they are mutually exclusive (i.e., you cannot serve others before self without practicing unconditional love), then sleeper is simply saying it is not necessary to love unconditionally, or serve others before self; that it is an option. In other words, it is our option (free will) to move forward or not.

A better question to ask would be, as we see attainment of happiness and a higher "level" as our primary goal, is unconditional love necessary, or a prerequisite to service to others before service of self? But I don't see the point of pursuing this specific idea...What I'm getting at, is it seems more a devil in the details kind of thing, when it's clear one's subjective viewpoints and beliefs can be valid and truthful without contradicting another's.

I think what should be done with claims such as smallpeeps (predictions and statements about our reality) is that they need to be weighed by the reader. This includes seeing what information bears up against personal experience and research. It can't be done by comparing the specific statements, or the personalities offering the information, because they are as varied as the people on this planet.

The "truth" proper is not a single, concrete, immutable thing. It's more like an onion, and the more we peel off, the more truths we uncover. You need to find the deeper elements shared by claims such as these, and not the superficial details to weigh their authenticity.

There is a story about truth that illustrates this rather well. It's a story about the three blind men who come upon an elephant I think this is apropos here and something to really think about with regard to truth:

One blind man, while touching the the elephant's side, declared that an elephant was like a wall. The second touching its leg, declared an elephant was like a tree, and the third blind man, while holding on to it's tail declared an elephant was like a snake.

All three were correct, and, at the same time, all three had very distorted perspectives of an elephant. Commonly, human distortions stem from experiencing a small portion of the truth and then proclaiming that that very small and limited portion of the truth is the whole truth.

We get into trouble when we claim our piece of the truth is the complete and only truth.

The reality that we all share, we share differently, but we can agree that it is the same reality (most of the time LOL), but we all have different accounts of it. It does not make any of the accounts any less true or valid.



posted on Nov, 25 2006 @ 01:08 PM
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Originally posted by smallpeeps

Originally posted by HankMcCoy

Sleeper
Here is my 2 cents, unconditional love is not required of anyone, it’s a gift for those who want to use it to their advantage.

You even replied to it, its on page 2.
He also said the rapture is already happening, which is totally different than what you claim..

As I said also, sleeper knows what he knows and I know what I know. He gives me the freedom to believe as I will and I give him the same. There was no reply to my post from him, and so that's that. I fail to see how that makes your point that we are "getting our stories straight" somewhere else. He may or may not believe what I write here and it doesn't matter anyway. Except to people who want to raise spurious objections and derail the thread.

As for the rapture already beginning, I don't know what he means. I am sure he will explain somewhere else. If a few people have been lifted before the majority, then maybe he's right and I need to look closer. In any case, if I ask for detail and post that detail here, you will not believe so I will not ask those questions. I am less interested in consensus with others, and more interested in the ideas contained in this thread. I am glad free will is in effect.

But the larger question Hank, is can you contrbute to the thread? Please send a U2U to your favorite admin and ask them to move this thread to a place where you will be more comfortable with it. And once it's moved, hopefully you'll be able to contribute. That is my hope because any mutant who is able to become Secretary of Mutant Affairs, has my respect.


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But surely if accounts of what people know about the same subject are different, then somebody is mistaken about what they know. I am a believer in the 'grey area' between black and white, but some information still falls into the black or white area. There is still a place for bad information.

As for contributing on the topic of the thread, how can I or anyone truly contribute to the thread other than to ask questions about what you experienced, agree with you, or disagree with you. The topic is a personal belief you have, and THAT falls into the realm of the grey area.

I will give you an opinion on the topic, if only in the name of good will so you are not of the opinion that I am simply a troll looking to cause problems.


I think it is dangerous to assign new faces to old gods, but It seems like this is what we as a world are doing recently. Science is making us question the old myths, and to keep the old myth current, we are superimposing our current cultral construct of 'supernatural' into a new retelling.

It's like mankind NEEDS to feel more significant than it is.

But then again, that is just my opinion, mate.



posted on Nov, 25 2006 @ 01:18 PM
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Getting back on the love-train, if you want to practice 'love' then learn to extend the concept beyond humans to include animals, the planet, the elements, and the very essence of existence. Please don't be so self-absorbed in loving your neighbour that you forget the bigger picture - love the cosmos and everything in it. That means opening your heart to all life and treat the environment with respect. Even without all the above preamble it makes common sense.

Also, don't get suckered into procrastinating in the hopes of some kind of messiah figure in 2012. Carpe diem, you are far more likely to get hit by a bus than spirited away on a spaceship.

ps looking forward to 10% less traffic



posted on Nov, 25 2006 @ 01:41 PM
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Yo smallpeeps,thank you for replying to my post.Im glad we can agree and not disagree.Im also glad your source confirmed the ahnunahki for me,that was a big help.Once again you told me something i did'nt know about the egyptians,but on the other hand you mentioned about how the native americans will take back there land,but im wondering is this supposed to take place before or after the rapture?

That is my only question for right now.Thanks



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