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posted on Nov, 13 2003 @ 11:10 PM
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I think I would like to join this conservative party. What do they stand for? Can I wear a red white and blue shirt or tie like Arnold Swartznegger? Can I pray in federal buildings?




posted on Nov, 13 2003 @ 11:11 PM
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Sorry dude, gotta BUST you on this one... If I was to take a poll of ATS, with the ONLY question being who is the LOUDEST member on this whole website, I am POSITIVE YOU would win...

PEACE...
m...



posted on Nov, 13 2003 @ 11:13 PM
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Originally posted by Springer
Sorry dude, gotta BUST you on this one... If I was to take a poll of ATS, with the ONLY question being who is the LOUDEST member on this whole website, I am POSITIVE YOU would win...

PEACE...
m...


You got it right on the dot.
colonel



posted on Nov, 13 2003 @ 11:15 PM
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websuspect, of course, you can do all of that. In fact, go buy some flags to wave and some guns l - they're tax deductible, ya know.




posted on Nov, 13 2003 @ 11:16 PM
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Originally posted by Colonel

Ya know, you're so full of #.

Liberals are a bunch of loudmouths? RUSH LIMBAUGH THE DRUGGIE AND THE HOMOPHOBE, MICHAEL SAVAGE, ARE THE BIGGEST LOUDMOUTHS IN THE INDUSTRY!

'Strayed for the original Constitution." HAVE YOU EVEN READ THE CONSTITUTION? HAVE YOU EVER STUDIED IT????

No? I didn't thinks so.

And on this: "Michael Moore and Al Franken apply here. They all seem to have an instictual hatred for any conservative leader"

ITS BECAUSE WE HATE LIARS! WE HATE BEING LIED TO DAY BY DAY BY DAY

In their books, they have pointed out EVERY lie of the repugnant withthe truth and documented it with facts. Just as I do hewre. We are sick of your elitism, your faux moral superiority, and your comfortable lying.

Your killing this country and everyone on the planet can see it.



[Edited on 13-11-2003 by Colonel]


colonel sorry but michael savage is an independent. Yes he is leaning toword the republician side but he still hates some extreme republicians.

Also Michael Savage at least is fun to listen to. To you listening is an head ache. You are like a child that is wondering in the dark and cry mom!

[Edited on 13-11-2003 by Russian]



posted on Nov, 13 2003 @ 11:24 PM
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Springer, care to give your ideal version of 'Merica?



posted on Nov, 14 2003 @ 05:51 AM
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Religion: I believe in freedom of Religion, go worship that piece of grass, don't expect me to. I do believe though that this country was built on Judeo-Christian values, so if there is mentioning of God in documents or the like (plege of allegiance, coins, etc.) suck it up.

Abortion: I'm a male. I don't think abortion is right in any case because of religious views. There are many other alternatives (give the baby up for adoption etc.). I don't care if they take a little more money of me to help out the babies via taxes. I'm not going to change on this so don't bother trying. Like I said I'm a male, I won't have to make the decision. I can only advise.

Gun Control: I believe in fair gun control. No guns for criminals and the like. I believe it is the right of all freedom loving, lawful citizens. I believe in responsible gun ownage. For more info go to: www.nra.org...

Capital Punishment: The Govt has a duty to protect the lawful citizens of this great country. Legitimate public authority has the right and duty to inflict punishment proportionate to the gravity of the offense for the safety and well being of the many.

Welfare: Yes the govt. should help with various society betterment programmes (welfare etc.) but the brunt of it relys on the person and their motivation to find work. If the welfare people don't want the jobs that migrate immigrant workers do, then no welfare check....simple. The shouldn't expect a free lunch all the time. Offer them maybe free day care and small tax breaks or cash supports until they can get up and running.

Drugs: No legalisation. It would hurt US society in different aspects in my opinion. I think that if the drug dealers are caught and convicted then all their property (and their families property! j/k) is to be liquidised and the revenue of THAT should go to rehab and other projects.

Immigration: If they don't carru a green card then they don't get jobs or other benefits. Work permits will be provided to those in the process of green cards. If the welfare people don't want the jobs, then no welfare check....simple.

War on Terror: If this was the real reason why we are at war, then the values are good. This admin is using it as a excuse for its imperialistic, money grubbing ways.

Deficit: I believe people should be taxed commensurate to their earning, that means rich should pay what they can not what they want to. It should be across the board, not how it is now.

Wages: If you can make it, then you can keep it, no matter how much. Just be prepared to be taxed on it.

Medicare/Prescriptions: I would make a flat cost on all prescribed meds in each kind of category, example: aspirin would cost less to say valium but all aspirin products would be the same price etc. I like the idea of a socialised medicine, everyone would be taxed on what they can afford based on how much they make, yep you guessed it the rich would be paying ALOT more.

Nature: I believe that we are stewards of this Earth and we should be responsible on how we manage the resources of the Earth. I don't like the get rich on the expense of nature though. Be responsible.

Am I conservative in this views? Possibly. Where am I on the political spectrum?


[Edited on 11-14-2003 by Cearbhall]



posted on Nov, 14 2003 @ 05:59 AM
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Have I ever read the constitution, you ask? I'll forgive you of that ignorant question as you are an Esquire, are taught to argue cases and are given a cursory description of the constitution as it pertains to the nation as it stands today (under martial rule) and believes that nobody else can read it or understand the words as we are the unwashed non-Esquire masses.

You, as an Esquire, are part of the largest problem we have in this country, yet you rail against those who want the country back as the Founders intended, as if that is a bad thing.

To simply answer the question, yes, I study the constitution.



posted on Nov, 14 2003 @ 10:24 AM
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Originally posted by Colonel
Ya know, you're so full of #.

Liberals are a bunch of loudmouths? RUSH LIMBAUGH THE DRUGGIE AND THE HOMOPHOBE, MICHAEL SAVAGE, ARE THE BIGGEST LOUDMOUTHS IN THE INDUSTRY!

'Strayed for the original Constitution." HAVE YOU EVEN READ THE CONSTITUTION? HAVE YOU EVER STUDIED IT????

No? I didn't thinks so.

And on this: "Michael Moore and Al Franken apply here. They all seem to have an instictual hatred for any conservative leader"

ITS BECAUSE WE HATE LIARS! WE HATE BEING LIED TO DAY BY DAY BY DAY

In their books, they have pointed out EVERY lie of the repugnant withthe truth and documented it with facts. Just as I do hewre. We are sick of your elitism, your faux moral superiority, and your comfortable lying.

Your killing this country and everyone on the planet can see it.
[Edited on 13-11-2003 by Colonel]


You know...that's the biggest load of crap I've heard from you yet. You're telling me that the dems have never lied? EVER? You should hate yourself for all the lies and filth you spew. I'm sure that the republicans have twisted some things, but I believe the dems have done much worse. No one is perfect, but they are far from it!



posted on Nov, 14 2003 @ 10:34 AM
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Originally posted by Flinx
We can make a left-leaners thread later. Er...and a centrist, anarchist, and liberarian one if you want.


Is that a party comprised of librarians and libertarians? Liberarians?



posted on Nov, 14 2003 @ 11:42 AM
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Originally posted by joehayner

You're telling me that the dems have never lied? EVER? You should hate yourself for all the lies and filth you spew. I'm sure that the republicans have twisted some things, but I believe the dems have done much worse. No one is perfect, but they are far from it!


Either you're oblivious or you're an idiot. (I think both). Sure, Dems have lied but NEVER on a consistently daily basis as the repugnants. The lies never cost lives
(don't even bring up Lyndon Johnson and the Gulf of Tonkin b/c that was 40 years ago. Just like I won't bringup Nixon)

You repugnants lie. HELL YOU EVEN LIE ABOU THE LIES THAT YOU LIED ABOUT!



posted on Nov, 14 2003 @ 12:16 PM
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as do you colonel, as do you. Now quit generalizing republicans. I can't post for a few days after this one, we'll finish this somtime next week.



posted on Nov, 14 2003 @ 12:51 PM
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They get free hamburger and egg on Thursday.

Other than that, # em.



posted on Nov, 14 2003 @ 03:50 PM
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Originally posted by Losonczy

Originally posted by Flinx
We can make a left-leaners thread later. Er...and a centrist, anarchist, and liberarian one if you want.


Is that a party comprised of librarians and libertarians? Liberarians?


Heh.....I was a bit drunk.... :w:



posted on Nov, 14 2003 @ 04:21 PM
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Originally posted by darkwraith
They get free hamburger and egg on Thursday.

Other than that, # em.


Frock who, exactly? Poor people?



posted on Nov, 14 2003 @ 05:26 PM
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the perfect republian country:

1. Afirmitive Action - gone. if you want a job and dont have the qualifications for that job you dont deserve it. if you want to go to college and you have done nothing to prepare for that coloege you dont get in.

2. Welfare - 1 year and you're done. im tired of my money going to pay for people that do absolutly nothing.

3. Gun laws stay.

4. Any thing related to communism gone. so you cpusa people can kiss my ass.

5. PC - gone. if you cant speak your mind with out getting in touble then what good is the first amendment?

6. The majority will run country. if you dont like something, sucj as the ten commandments in a public park, too bad. nothing is going to change because of the bitching of a few atheist. dont like it? GET THE # OUT!



posted on Nov, 14 2003 @ 05:31 PM
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1. less taxes
2. less government involvement in my life
3. let me shoot whatever type of gun i want.
4. leave me alone.
5. quit legislating everything that happens to kill some dumbass. If a man loses his life cause he #ed with a sparkler bomb, outlaw dumbasses. not fireworks.
6. quit trying to outlaw free speech.
7. Leave me and mine the # alone.



posted on Nov, 14 2003 @ 05:36 PM
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oh yeah,
Did i mention there is a law for everything now days?
you can't #ing smoke in a public building. you can't do this or that?

Is this the land of the free? or the land of the uptight yuppie pricks, that use thier own assholes as cock warmers?

I'm sick of Legislation for the stupidest #.

Let a guy do 65 mph,
Let a guy smoke,
eat red meat,
If i feel like using baby seal fur on my leather seats, and i had to club them my self to get them, i would love that right.


I WANT TO CLUB BABY SEALS!



posted on Nov, 15 2003 @ 12:26 AM
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Originally posted by Colonel



ITS BECAUSE WE HATE LIARS! WE HATE BEING LIED TO DAY BY DAY BY DAY







TAKE SOME OF YOUR OWN MEDICINE!



posted on Nov, 15 2003 @ 12:58 AM
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Originally posted by KrazyIvanthe perfect republian country:

1. Afirmitive Action - gone. if you want a job and dont have the qualifications for that job you dont deserve it. if you want to go to college and you have done nothing to prepare for that coloege you dont get in.

I'm not even gonna get into this debate again with this racist.

2. Welfare - 1 year and you're done. im tired of my money going to pay for people that do absolutly nothing.

WHAT MONEY? YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE A JOB! YOU'RE LAZY AND SHIFTLESS. THAT'S WHY YOU'RE JOINING THE MILITARY. DON'T LIE.

3. Gun laws stay.

They haven't left.

4. Any thing related to communism gone. so you cpusa people can kiss my ass.

First of all, I'm not communist. Secondly, communism was never in the US. Thirdly, you can't impose your form of government on people that don't want it---like in China, Vietnam, Cuba, IRAQ, etc---no matter how much physical and financial pain and suffering you inflict.

5. PC - gone. if you cant speak your mind with out getting in touble then what good is the first amendment?

There is such a thing as "hate speech" and "fighting words" which is not protected by the First Amendment. Duh.

6. The majority will run country. if you dont like something, sucj as the ten commandments in a public park, too bad. nothing is going to change because of the bitching of a few atheist. dont like it? GET THE # OUT!

You're not even a real Christian. You sound more like a neo-Nazi. 'Get the # out? I thought that America was about...

"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed, to me:
I lift my lamp beside the golden door. "

You are so UN-AMERICAN.





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