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Originally posted by grimreaper797
Why?
That is my question?
Why are you here, at this very subforum?
What are you trying to accomplish?
Why are you trying to accomplish it?
Why, are you trying to find the reason for all things that are being and the possibility of an afterlife?
Why are you trying to prove god exists?
Why is the question I ask.
Originally posted by Esoteric Teacher
the logical answer to "Why?" is: Because.
I'm not sure how to answer this question other than:
yes, i think this is your question.
subforum? interesting choice of word. my answer:
Because the truth we find here binds all other forums. they are spokes. we are the hub, the axle, the whole vehicle.
the questions to all other unnecessary forums, so we may identify them. after we identify the right questions, we find the answers. we are not trying. we are accomplishing the means to know the truth. you know, the truth that lies within you, within your subconscious mind perhaps? you know, the 99.999999997% of your brain you are not consciously aware of, which you call your subconscious. ya, the part of your mind that first recieves all sensory input. when it comes to your kind (frame of mind of "self pre-serve"), well we would need 1 million people who rely upon only their conscious mind to even have the equivelant of 0.002% of a human brain.
because it is needed.
because it is there.
I don't feel the need to try to prove god exists. god exists, or all in existance is lying.
Because is the answer we supply you with.
Originally posted by spines
I submit my answer and I ask the mods to forgive my 1-liner:
In response to 'why?', I say 'why not'.
The end.
Originally posted by grimreaper797
I'm not sure how to answer this question other than:
yes, i think this is your question.
thank you for catching my error.
subforum? interesting choice of word. my answer:
Because the truth we find here binds all other forums. they are spokes. we are the hub, the axle, the whole vehicle.
yes subforum, why aren't you in say tv forum or video games. you answered correctly though, so no need to explain my question.
the truth you search for, is it relevent?
are you asking the right questions?
The truth lies within us of course, our own truth though, no one elses.
because it is needed.
truth is needed, but is the truth YOU seek needed?
Perhaps not all truths are relevent, perhaps some it doesn't matter if its true or not?
because it is there.
sure its there, but what is your reason for trying to find it?
I don't feel the need to try to prove god exists. god exists, or all in existance is lying.
didnt completely understand this, what do you mean by all in existance is lying?
Because is the answer we supply you with.
yes yes the open ended question gets the open ended response, I understand.
Originally posted by Esoteric Teacher
i wager all i have that it is more than relevent.
i wager all i have had that it is more than relevent.
i wager all i will ever have that it is more than relevent.
i wager my very existance that it is more than relevent.
i wager all that is mine to wager that it is more than relevent.
i wager whatever is left that i have to wager that it is more than relevent.
i wager whatever is right that i have to wager that it is more than relevent.
i wager all i am that i am less than relevent.
are we capable of asking wrong questions? and if the question is wrong, is there a right answer?
but, without their truth would i have any truth? if nothing else ever existed, what truth would i know other than: "i am"?
depends totally upon the intentionality of the one seeking the truth, does it not?
i believe the truth is needed, yes. i believe the truth is needed, but not for me alone. i do not seek the truth so that i may benefit from it, but rather that the truth may benefit from knowing the truth.
But, if there were truths that were not relevent, and no one took the time to quantify nor define the irrelevent truths, then who would know for sure if they were relevent or irrelevent, since there would be no basis for comparison?
because the truth compells me to know the truth.
What i meant was either there is a "god", or all existance is lying.
Because is the most appropriate answer to "why?", that i can supply.
Originally posted by grimreaper797
now the question is why? why is it more relevent then what you listed?
After everyone finds peace, after all the questions youve asked are answered whats the final question? What cannot be answered by searching for an answer externally?
Their truth and your truth are not the same.
.... is the same, but your answer will always be different from the next persons. What question cannot be completed by simply searching for an answer?
The truth is needed for everybody, but you cannot find the truth for another person. You can lead them to their own truth, but they must be the ones to find it, see it. You can't see it for them, because you cannot see their truth at all, only yours.
But, if there were truths that were not relevent, and no one took the time to quantify nor define the irrelevent truths, then who would know for sure if they were relevent or irrelevent, since there would be no basis for comparison?
there are truths that are not revelent, these truths can be determind by a simple thought process. There is a comparison, and it takes only on question to be answered to figure out what is relevent to a person and what is irrelevent to a person. Ill give you a hint, I can't find it for you, you couldn't find mine, and its the only question that when answered, will truthfully determine your priorities.
When all other questions are answered, what one remains forever? What question can be both answered and unanswered?
Of course the truth wishes to be found, but is it suppose to be found by you? How do you know?
still dont understand what you mean by all existance is lying? what do you mean by lying?
Because is the most appropriate answer to "why?", that i can supply.
I understand that. But it isn't the why thats most important. Ever done free writting before? keep answering every "why" that you can think of, for as long as you can.
Originally posted by Esoteric Teacher
it is important that we releve the ant because it is relevant that we coven the ant because of the covenant whether or not you believe the meek are those with the inheritance is irrelevant, i just wish you could percieve the importants of knowing the ants sir is the answer. perhaps we should practice propelants and excell to
excellance.
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only becuase they are lying to themselves, and do not know who they are, nor do they know their truth.
if they knew their own truth, they would not need to ask me this question.
yes, i can find the truth for another person. but, they may not be capable or willing to know their own truth. And, yes, i can see their truth, but only because i have seen my own truth. however if they have not witnessed their own truth, how could they know that my truth is their truth?
What is the opposite of love? Most people would say hate, because they don't know their own truth.
How can anyone justify hating someone without first being afraid of losing that which they love?
and, what is it you love?
And what is it you loved before anything?
my priorities are knowing the truth. i know your truths, and i know your priorities better than you do. why? because i know what it is you seek, and i have knowledge of the truth.
I already know you better than you know yourself, because i know the god of truth. and, yes i am prepared to prove it to you. here are your first loves, of which you placed first, before you choose to love the truth:
1) FEAR. This is a byproduct of your instinct of "self pre-serve". this is a manditory requirement of the genetic command that infests your cells throughout your entire body: "i am self before (pre) i serve (anything or anyone because there is no end to the command".
2) FOOD. You needed this for cellular reproduction as you grew in the womb to become the macro-organism you are this day.
3) FAMILY. As they nurished and protected you from harm, and helped hide your fears from you, or helped you face the fears you could overcome.
4) FRIENDS. Because you needed a sense of belonging and acceptance.
5) FORNICATION. Because you were curious about a thing called love, and this is the physical manifestation of the concept, and a piece of the puzzle when attempting to understand what love is.
6) FINANCES. Because it helped your selfishness dna of "self pre-serve" and you achieve more control over the accumilation of your previous 5 loves.
Now look at your first 6 loves. Now look at the FIRST commandment of: "you will have no other gods/loves before me"
now look again at your first 6 loves.
you have made 6 choices to love 6 things before truth, that all begin with the 6th letter of your "ALL FIB I BET", the letter "F" placed before the 7th letter, GOD's "G".
How can anyone justify hating someone without first being afraid of losing that which they love?
and, what is it you love?
it seems to me you love 666. feel free to explain why i am wrong.
i know this one, too.
i know it is suppose to be found by me, because i have already found it.
what is zero plus zero?
what is 0 + 0 + 0 ?
what is the sum of a few billion zeros?
so, ever brain cell that you utilized to form the thought that there is only one reflection in the mirror has to contimplate:
"if we are zero self aware, and zero intelligence, and zero consciousnesses, then how can all of us zeros add up to make the sum of ONE?"
i think i know a few truths, yes.
i think i know a few truths that are your truths that you did not know were your truths, because you don't believe my truths are your truths, and you don believe your truths are my truths.
perhaps your opinion is incompatible with the truth?
Originally posted by grimreaper797
Why? That is my question.
Why are you here, at this very subforum?
What are you trying to accomplish? Why are you trying to accomplish it?
Why, are you trying to find the reason for all things that are being and the possibility of an afterlife? Why are you trying to prove god exists?
Why is the question I ask.
[edit on 14-11-2006 by grimreaper797]
Making two possibilities a reality, Predicting the future of things we all know,
Fighting off the diseased programming Of centuries, centuries, centuries, centuries.
Science fails to recognize the single most Potent element of human existence
letting the reigns go to the unfolding Is faith, faith, faith, faith.
Science has failed our world. Science has failed our Mother Earth.................
...........Spirit-moves-through-all-things
Spirit-moves-through-all-things
Spirit-moves-through-all-things
Originally posted by InSaneTK
First of, im not religios, not christian or anything.
I am at this forum because i like to talk about our spritualty.
What i am trying to accomplish? I'm a truth seeker, i have an inner urge to know everything.
I try to accomplish this because it matters, more then our daily life.
I'm not trying to find a reasion for the afterlife, i know it exsist. God also exsist but god isn't necessarly what humans believe god to be, we just imagine some guy with a huge beard. I don't prefer the name God, i like calling it the Light, Divine Mother/Father etc.
People need to think through about the matter of exsistance above the physical world. We don't live this pointless experience of life where we get born, die and that's it, then we'll never exsist again. There are much more to the world then most people can even think, people have blindly accepting science as fact even tho it's not certain on almost anything.
Originally posted by grimreaper797
Why are you here, at this very subforum?
What are you trying to accomplish? Why are you trying to accomplish it?
Why, are you trying to find the reason for all things that are being and the possibility of an afterlife?
Why are you trying to prove god exists?
Why is the question I ask.
Originally Posted by Grimreaper797
Originally posted by Esoteric Teacher
only becuase they are lying to themselves, and do not know who they are, nor do they know their truth.
the truth is the reason for being, so how can your reason for being be to find the truth? thats a never ending cycle. Your purpose is to find the truth, yet the truth is whatever your purpose it. It doesn't work.
What question cannot be answered by simply looking for an answer?
What requires more then just finding an answer?
What question never ends? Thats the question to ask.
Originally Posted by Esoteric Teacher
yes, i can find the truth for another person. but, they may not be capable or willing to know their own truth. And, yes, i can see their truth, but only because i have seen my own truth. however if they have not witnessed their own truth, how could they know that my truth is their truth?
Originally posted by Grimreaper797
you do not know the person, thus you cannot know their truth.
You are not them, you are you.
They dont have to know their own truth to say their truth may not be the same.
If everyone were here for the same purpose, why the hell are their 6 billion+ of us? to make it more efficient? then why aren't their 600 billion of us? or 600 trillion of us? Because we don't all have the same purpose, the same truth. The truth isn't an answer to a question, but rather an action following an answer. The question never ends.
and If I were to say the opposite is nothing more then the complete absense of it?
sorry but your going to be disappointed. I dont fear losing anything, because I don't specifically love any certain thing. Love is only noticed when you love something MORE then another, and for me that isn't true.
I couldn't choose one thing over another because to me it simply doesn't matter.
my priorities are knowing the truth. i know your truths, and i know your priorities better than you do. why? because i know what it is you seek, and i have knowledge of the truth.
Im very interested to see this.
I already know you better than you know yourself, because i know the god of truth. and, yes i am prepared to prove it to you. here are your first loves, of which you placed first, before you choose to love the truth:
haha,what is funny is you believe that truth is a necessity, but their is something after truth. To know is not to live.
Logically there isn't anything to fear. Nothing is "worse" then death, and death is nothing to fear.
2) FOOD. You needed this for cellular reproduction as you grew in the womb to become the macro-organism you are this day.
I dont fear losing it though, because Ill only die. As Ive said their is nothing logically to fear in death, since its garenteed.
quote:
3) FAMILY. As they nurished and protected you from harm, and helped hide your fears from you, or helped you face the fears you could overcome.
O man you definately misread me on this one. I wont go into my life story, but you have basically said the opposite of what happened.
4) FRIENDS. Because you needed a sense of belonging and acceptance.
not at all. you couldn't be more wrong, and just about anybody thats been around me for a week can tell you so.
5) FORNICATION. Because you were curious about a thing called love, and this is the physical manifestation of the concept, and a piece of the puzzle when attempting to understand what love is.
did at one point, about 3 years ago. fortunately Ive long past that, so I no longer fear anything about this.
6) FINANCES. Because it helped your selfishness dna of "self pre-serve" and you achieve more control over the accumilation of your previous 5 loves.
funny. I dont know if you mean grown up financially stable, or that I care about money. If you mean the latter, your again wrong, if you mean the former...your still wrong.
they aren't my loves, you made assumptions about me because Ive realized that the only truth is that all truths are irrelevent when it comes down to the main question.
None of these "truths" should effect your response to the main question. If you don't know the main question, you don't have a bit of valuable truth.
wrong because you assumed things about me, because your lack of understanding.
You don't know your own truth, because you still believe it is to find the truth.
The purpose is defeating itself. In your world, you can never find the truth, because the truth is the purpose to life. Lifes purpose is to find the truth, yet the truth is to find the purpose of life? they circle around and around with out ever having an answer.
How does every screw and wire in your computer add up to one computer? No single screw, or bolt, or chip is a computer by itself. It's interactions together make it the computer. The single pieces apart equal zero computers, but together they equal one. so how do all those zero's equal one? Because they aren't zero at all. they are fractions. They are incomplete parts to a puzzle. They aren't zeros at all, they just aren't wholes either.
perhaps you are confused. Are you following THE truth or A truth?
Originally posted by queenannie38
LOVE does not have to be noticed.
It just has to BE.