The level of ignorance in this thread is really making me rather sick. I think what you aren't realizing is that there at least two sides to this
situation. The legal side and the emotional side.
On the legal side, by my understanding, this does qualify as cruel and unusual punishment which is why the inmates won the settlement. The law leaves
no room for emotional interpretation and goes by precedents set by previous rulings and laws.
The emotional side is where everyone's logic seems to be going out the window. I can't believe I'm reading what I'm reading here on ATS. You
people are actually advocating the killing, or in other words, the cleansing of our society through the murder of "undesirables"?! I am by no means
what would qualify as a "liberal" but I do endeavor to support the rights of the people over the powers of the government.
Are you people really saying we should just let all addicts rot, and if they continue to do this stuff, even though you've done nothing at all to try
and help them, that we should kill them??? I hope you all remember what you've said in this thread when you're sitting in prison for thoughtcrime.
Drug addiction is a social problem, not a personal problem. We are all members of society and drug addiction is all of our problem. I have a feeling
that those advocating the murder of "undesirables" are the same people who say that people are homeless because they don't feel like working, or
that people have AIDS because the can't keep it in their pants.
I don't think any of you are recognizing the double speak in the term "prisoner's rights". Prisoners have rights because they are citizens of a
government, citizens with rights under the law. More over, they are humans and have inalienable rights under any government. They do not lose their
rights, and should not be forced to abide by a new set of rights, just because they are now prisoners.
Granted, many of you may have had bad experiences with drug addicts. I live in New York City so I've had my fair share of trouble with addicts.
I've also had black people try to rob me, does that mean we should kill all the black people who're in prison for robbery? If I were to say I hate
black people because a few have tried to rob me I would be instantly labeled a racist by all of you.
You may think you're untouchable right now, but let me tell you from experience, no one is safe from the strong arm of the law or from addiction. It
could be you, your wife, your kids, or even your mom, but addiction can manifest at any time in your life. I have known people who were "normal"
their entire lives and ended up dying of an addiction that didn't manifest itself until their 30s or 40s.
Prison is the same. You may look down on those who steal or rob, but one day you could wake up and lose it all, you could be on the streets, hungry
and cold just as easily as anyone else. You could also find yourself in prison just as easily. You could be talking on your cell phone while you're
driving and end up running over a few children, you'll find yourself in jail and I'm sure you'll be singing a different tune about the treatment of
Trust me when I say that addicts get enough of their own punishment from the use of these substances. If you don't think the loss of their job,
their families, their friends, and their freedom is a horrible enough punishment then I suggest you meet a few addicts. Do you people really believe
that these junkies are just living it up and enjoying themselves on heroin?? Addicts are a slave to their substance and I have a feeling many of you
would not have the strength of will to quit if you were trully addicted to somthing.
It's easy to sit there in your comfy chair and feel as though you're above these addicts and prisoners. It's easy to say you'll never do anything
like that, that you're a good person and won't end up in prison. I know it's fun to make yourself feel better by treating others as though
they're less than human. But you're not denying ignorance.
If you let your government begin restricting and removing the rights of prisoners, addicts, and others you've deemed "undesirable" then how long do
you think it'll be before they come for you?
Maybe you're right, maybe we should just start killing addicts. While we're at it, lets start killing the homeless, the AIDS infected, the
homosexuals, the poor, the invalid, the old, the stupid, the blind, the deaf, those with dissenting political views, people who think differently,
hell and the Jews too, why not?
I suggest that before you open your mouth and let your putrid ignorance spill out you consider issues from all angles and ponder the consequences as
far as they will go. I can't believe I'm hearing this stuff on ATS.