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Originally posted by DoBravery
I did not mean to suggest that the US Navy could mask the noise of a carrier with active sonar.
Originally posted by Char2c35t
its also possible that the DOD is inflating the threat to justify its bloated "defense" budget!
More over a war between the US and Sino over Taiwan is silly on the business side of things, sino loses its biggest trade partner and that would mean Walmart cant fund the PLA anymore!
Originally posted by StellarX
Well that might seem so based on some things you heard in the 80's but the reality was that western intelligence did their best to hide Soviet strength while playing up their own strengths... The historic record shows that the Soviet strength were consistently undersold in the press and that things were normally far worse than they let on...
Actually it's China that pays for almost the entire DOD budget and if they stopped accepting the very weak dollar, and then reinvesting it in the US markets and economy in general, they would not benefit but wont in my knowledge suffer anywhere like the type of economics consequences. Remember that they have been developing on their own markets as well and are just using the US to fund faster growth than they would have been able to otherwise arrange. There is the other reality that the true rulers of the world have already decided that China is their model for civil organization and that still decide which economies gets developed at which speeds by their manipulation of central banks.
Originally posted by orangetom1999
Quite true here. One day I realized that the Soviets had never fielded a Le Mans racing type team. Superpowers could do this. They had never fielded an Atari game set ...superpowers can do this.
This lead to a wider field of thinking..about how unsuperpower the Soviets really were. It also lead me to realize how much of this truth our own Senator John Warner knew but was hiding from the American Public. The question arose..how many were actually doing this.
The Soviets had some strengths ..but most of this was used to scare the west in to larger budgets for military goodies.
Keep us on the treadmill.
Today I am thinking that the Soviets have been replaced with the Terrorist types to keep us on the treadmill.
I agree with this too. I also think this occurence has been going on for quite some time as the techniques are refined through trial and error. China today is the product of many many years of central bank manipulations....going back to the opium wars...but really refined with the advent of ping pong diplomacy. All of this connected.
Originally posted by orangetom1999
YOu dont have to buy into this ..it is just my read on the history.
Russia herself appears to have been a failed experiment in which the investors have given up after years of other countrys bailing out the Soviets.
Western nations have been the ones to keep the Soviets afloat for years and years...even before WW2. AFter the war too. Russia was far more useful to these investors practicing thier double dealing through the "balance of Power " dictum ..ie fingerprint for which they are so known.
This is the manner in which Russia was more useful to them as a fright tool on Americans. I believe many Senators knew this ..at certain levels..but never were allowed to tell the public. I believe our Senator John Warner knew this. Still does.
It just got to where with rapidly changing events it was to difficult anymore to actually hide Russias non superpower status. They just let it fall.
This is just not something made available to the ordinary public educated in public schools. This history is overlook or totally omitted.
Once again you dont have to buy into this ..its is just my read on history.