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G.H.W. Bush Gold Mine To Destroy Local Ecology

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posted on Nov, 15 2006 @ 07:32 AM
There are two people I'd like to put into a room together.

Isabelle Allende and Sarah Chayes, a journalist I once saw on CSpan who lives in Kandahar, Afghanistan and is very familiar with the political workings there.

Allende is the niece of ousted Chilean President and I read her wonderful novel 'Daughter of Fortune' a few years back and have seen her on CSpan too:

The novel follows the life of Eliza Sommers, the Anglo-Chilean heroine, from her foster parents' home in Chile through her adventure in search of her lover, who had left for California during the Gold Rush. A review in The New York Times called it a “harmless, happy monster of a book,” noting that, “to the very end, there are plenty of renegade currents threatening to pull the story in different directions. That’s called an abundance of material...


Those two would have a thing or two to say about exploitation, I'd imagine. Yes, this is more global cronnyisms as far as I'm concerned.

But they are working on a fix. Right down there in Texas too.

posted on Nov, 15 2006 @ 11:08 AM

Originally posted by Regenmacher

Chile's farmers still don't want a gold or copper mine producing tons of toxic waste by their glaciers, and you have yet to prove they do and/or that it won't affect them.

That is not what Barrick claims.

6. Do the farmers/water users and local communities support Pascua-Lama?

Yes, there is broad support for Pascua-Lama among farmers/water users and within the surrounding communities. In the Huasco Valley, members of the Water Users Cooperative voted 94 per cent in favor of the project at a Special Meeting of the organization. This Cooperative represents the 2,000 water users in the area, including the Huasco Valley’s approximately 700 farmers.

Mayors from all four municipalities surrounding Pascua-Lama and most of the community leaders in the Huasco Valley have also strongly expressed their support for the project. The Mayor of Vallenar, Juan Santana said, “We value the investment that is made in the valley either by mining activity or by agricultural and other services…” and the Mayor of Huasco, Juan Sabando said, “Pascua-Lama should proceed and must create the development the community expects from it. This company has proven to be serious and responsible in terms of environmental matters.”

To illustrate the interest among people in the region in employment opportunities at Pascua-Lama, Barrick has already received more than 50,000 applications for jobs as of June, 2006.

From the above it sure sounds opposite of what you are claiming since 94% voted in favor of the project.. Imagine 50,000 + applying for jobs alone. That is a lot of people.

posted on Nov, 15 2006 @ 03:26 PM

Originally posted by shots
That is not what Barrick claims.

I see no reason for Barrick post anything that drives off investors.

A citizens tribunal will commence on November 25-26th.

Place your bets...

Dehedging Gold -- Why Barrick's In Trouble

The Mitsui Report, which Credit Suisse quotes, estimated 2Q06 de-hedging at 5.1 million ounces (158.6 tonnes), which is the greatest quarter of de-hedging since 4Q02; and they claim it came 3.0 million oz. from Barrick Gold Corp. (ABX), 1.0 million oz. from AngloGold Ashanti Limited (AU), and a sizeable amount from Newcrest Mining.

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.

posted on Nov, 15 2006 @ 04:14 PM

Originally posted by Regenmacher

A citizens tribunal will commence on November 25-26th.

Place your bets...

Citizens Tribuanl now that is good for a laugh for sure. The very same group that listed that also has on another page

A letter condemning Berrick and I ask you why on earth would their president listen to what a group of nut jobs from canada cares?

Yours Tru;y

Gerardo Aiquel (Grupo de Trabajo –Campaña Oposición al Proyecto Pascua Lama) e-mail:
15, Rue de Castelnau O, Montréal, Québec H2R 2W3, Canada

Canadian organisations

Association Québécoise des organismes de solidarité internationale (AQOCI)
Centre de femmes d’Ici et d’Ailleurs (Montréal)
Consejo central de Montréal métropolitano (CCMM-CSN)
Fédération des femmes du Québec
Fundación Bolivariana de Canada (FBC) Daniel Araujo
L’Entraide missionnaire (Montréal)
MiningWatch Canada
NGO-VIDAU ; Vida autonóma, Cooperación y Desarrollo
Québec Solidaire
Sindicato CSN construcción (Montréal)
Social Justice Committee (Montréal)
SUCO (Montréal)

Chilean-canadian organisations

Asociación Cultural Araucaria (Montréal) = Cultural Association Araucaria (Montréal)
Asociación de chilenos de Montréal (Montréal)
Casa Salvador Allende (Toronto)
Centro Cultural Pablo Neruda (Québec)
Comité Chileno por los Derechos Humanos de Montréal
Comité de Solidaridad Internacional (Montréal)
Grupo de Trabajo –Campaña Oposición al Proyecto Pascua Lama
Profesionales, técnicos y artistas chilenos (PROTACH) Montréal
Proyecto Cultural Sur (Montréal

Open Letter to President of Chile

A quick translation of a few of the last groups comes up as being nothing more then Human rights or activists groups which is to be expected.

Seems like miningwatch (caugh is the one causing all the trouble here and not the Chilians. ) Why is that?

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posted on Nov, 15 2006 @ 04:33 PM
Now in all fairness it is only right that every one be given a right to read Barricks talking points that responded to the erroneous information listed on the petition.

Misleading Assertions and Facts

The chain letter makes some very misleading characterizations and inaccurate statements. Here are a few examples:

Statement: "water in Chile runs from 2 rivers, fed by 2 glaciers."

Fact: The Huasco Valley has more than 50 different glaciers and ice fields. The three smaller glaciers or ice fields that are adjacent to the orebody comprise only 0.3% of the potential water resources in the Valley if they were to be destroyed, which was never to be the case.

Statement: "there is no unemployment ..."

Fact: Contrary to this statement, unemployment levels in Region III are among the highest in Chile — the most recent statistics according to the Chilean Statistics Agency reveal rates in the valley in question to be approximately 18%. The mayors representing the four municipalities and most of the community leaders in the Huasco Valley have vocally expressed their support of Pascua-Lama indicating that they believe Barrick will conduct an environmentally responsible project and the generation of economic benefits are needed for the long term sustainable development of the region.

As an illustration of the lack of employment opportunities, Barrick has received over 50,000 applications for jobs. Chileans in the Region III and Argentineans from San Juan are looking for meaningful employment opportunities and the ability to support their families. Human beings deserve the opportunity to make a decent livelihood.

Statement: "Under the glaciers has been found a huge deposit of gold ... it would be necessary to break, to destroy the glaciers"
Fact: Contrary to the fundamental premise of the email chain letter, the orebody is NOT under glaciers. This is simply not the case: 95% of the orebody is NOT under glaciers/ice fields. Protection of the remaining 5% is a key condition of the Chilean authorities’ approval of the project.

Statement: "The operation is planned by a multi-national company, one of whose members is George Bush, Sr."

Fact: Mr. Bush served in an honorary capacity as an advisor to Barrick's International Advisory Board for two years in the mid 1990's. Mr. Bush was neither a director nor officer of the Company.

Statement: "If they destroy the glaciers, they will not just destroy the source of especially pure water, but they will permanently contaminate the 2 rivers"

Fact: To underline its confidence in its operations and commitment to responsible mining practices, Barrick has committed that should the water quality change, it would immediately stop the project. In addition to the multiple barriers of protection built into the design, the Company has a comprehensive water quality monitoring and management program, which will include 30 automated points from which data will be readily available in real time for authorities and the public. This program will be subject to regular independent verification. The expanded number of monitoring points is a direct result of community consultation and dialogue with stakeholders.

Statement: "Every last gram of gold will go abroad ... and not one will be left with the people"

Fact: There will be substantial economic benefits that include 5,500 direct jobs during construction, 1,660 jobs during the two decades of operation, and the indirect job creation and tax revenues generated that will flow back to the communities. In addition, there will be substantial investment in infrastructure, the development of hundreds of local suppliers of goods and services and the implementation of sustainable development programs.

Statement: "The farmers ... have been forbidden to make a TV appeal by a ban from the Ministry of the Interior"

Fact: The Water Users Cooperative, representing 2,000 farmers of the Huasco Valley, is fully supportive of the project. Chile is a democratic country and the media play an important role in the public discussion of the community concerns and interests. There has already been an extensive and open discussion of issues including the participation of farmers.

From a practical standpoint, the petition reproduced at the head of this page is not now valid in that the e-mail address supplied is no longer collecting or forwarding copies. The Pascua Lama project remains an issue of ongoing concern, however, and interested parties can find updated information on the subject (and a list of government and business officials to contact) at the Mining Watch Canada web site.

Pascula Lama

Imagine that Snopes/Urban legeons is even questioning the validity of this groups allegations

Oh and no fear so are people on questioning the very same claims in their Talking section on this matter. Seems more then just one or two are questioning the allegations while trying to remain neutral that is.

Then click on Discussion next to article link has ats bb code that breaks the link when trying to post direct

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