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Teenager Charged With 11 Counts of Rape

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posted on Nov, 11 2006 @ 01:10 PM
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CTV is currently reporting:



A 17-year-old youth has been arrested and faces 21 charges connected with a series of sexual assaults that occurred in Montreal North over the last year.

The boy was arrested in connection with 11 sexual assaults that took place starting in November of 2005, with the most recent occurring two weeks ago.

The teenager appeared in youth court Friday, wearing a black T-shirt with a picture of rapper Tupac Shakur on it. His father waved his rosary beads at his son as the charges, which include aggravated sexual assault, armed robbery and forcible confinement, were read.

The accused did not show any expression as the crown asked for him to be sentenced as an adult if found guilty.

"In youth court the most he can be sentenced to is two years," crown prosecutor Sylvie Lemieux told reporters afterward in French. "As an adult, he can spend up to 14 years in prison."

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I'm shocked someone this young could commit these crimes. A 17 year old serial rapist is not something we hear of very often. Without a doubt I believe this individual should be tried as an Adult and convicted to the absolute maximum. Which is apparently only 14 years. Thats not nearly enough. I'm interested to know if our members believe this child should serve the counts consecutively.

If he is not tried as an adult, the maximum punishment he can face is two years. I can not see our justice system permitting these crimes to go unpunished. My faith in our system is not concrete, but surely the rights of the victims are going to be taken into consideration when the decision comes down.

Interested to hear some opinions on this current situation in Montreal.




posted on Nov, 11 2006 @ 09:37 PM
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I'm all for consecutive sentences.

Concurrent sentencing is a joke. It's like telling people if they are going to commit a crime, they might as well do it 20 times because the sentence will be the same.

He should definitely be tried as an adult. What a disgusting little creep.



posted on Nov, 11 2006 @ 09:46 PM
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omg.

14 years is the maximum sentance? .. That almost brings a tear to my eye..... I am speachless.

This kid deserves to be killed in my opinion. He will never be a constructive part of society, and he WILL rape again, and possible kill. Disgusting... simply disgusting.. I would bet he gets 2 years.



posted on Nov, 11 2006 @ 09:51 PM
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I believe he should be sentenced to 2 years for each count of rape.
That way he'd be serving the two years, but since it would be for
each count, he'd end up serving 42 years.

And he should receive psychological therapy, and be trained to do
a job in the system, so that he's not just sapping the economy,
but actually adding to it.

It's sort of strange, I realize this is wrong, and it is a violation
of one of my cornerstone beliefs, but it does'nt really phase
or affect me.

[edit on 11/11/2006 by iori_komei]



posted on Nov, 11 2006 @ 09:53 PM
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Deserves to be killed? How? Has he killed anyone? How would killing him, justify the situation?

Taking a life, under any circumstance, is wrong. I've normally been a fence sitter on capital punishment, but as of late I am coming down on one side. And I believe the fence is between you and I.


This child deserves to rot in a cell for many, many years. Capital punishment is not an option in Canada, and I support this. The trials are too costly, the appeals cost even more. Very low percentages of the defendants actually face execution, so its a waste of money in my opinion.

He must be tried as an adult and serve his counts consecutively. Suddenly 14 years seems like a walk in the park.



posted on Nov, 11 2006 @ 09:53 PM
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2 years for 11 sexual assaults....


Why does it matter about age? I'm certain that if he's 17 years old he knows exactly what he's doing. So just because, he wasn't born 1 year earlier he gets 2 years instead of 14? Thats just great, 2 years of being bored and then what? I'll tell you what. He's going to go back out there and he's going to do it again.

IMO This kid has to be some kind of outcast who has never had a girlfriend, and looks at porn all day. He must've gone mad because, I can't comprehend how a person can do those things.

Crisis



posted on Nov, 11 2006 @ 09:59 PM
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IMO This kid has to be some kind of outcast who has never had a girlfriend, and looks at porn all day. He must've gone mad because, I can't comprehend how a person can do those things.


You should'nt assume stuff like that, people who are normal productive
members of society who are considered to be pillars in their communities
can end up committing horrendous crimes.

Just because someone is an outcast, or does'nt have a girlfriend and/or
boy friend or looks at porn allot, does'nt mean they're more inclined to
commit a crime.



posted on Nov, 11 2006 @ 10:20 PM
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Just because someone is an outcast, or does'nt have a girlfriend and/or boy friend or looks at porn allot, does'nt mean they're more inclined to commit a crime.


Well I just think that if someone is an outcast, they must be angry at something. Looking back at it now I do take back the boyfriend/girlfriend thing because, I have many friends who have had neither and I know would never do anything like that.

I think that by looking at porn, and not being able to express the want and desire of sex makes one want it more than ever. IMO this can build up a lot of sexual tension, just like anger can and eventually it has to come out.

I know I have anger problems and I can hold my anger in but eventually it has to come out.
Crisis



posted on Nov, 11 2006 @ 10:21 PM
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I would of killed someone like this myself what monster!!!!!!
I think the parents should go to trial to cause it is there fault to!



posted on Nov, 11 2006 @ 10:26 PM
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Originally posted by 1Crisis
Well I just think that if someone is an outcast, they must be angry at something.


Agree, but not necessarily true for everyone. I know a few people that just prefer to keep to themself. No frustration or anger, just completely satisfied with their current state. I believe they are missing out, but if you don't see what your missing out on I guess it doesn't affect you that much. So outcast and anger are not synonymous in my opinion.


Originally posted by 1Crisis
I think that by looking at porn, and not being able to express the want and desire of sex makes one want it more than ever. IMO this can build up a lot of sexual tension, just like anger can and eventually it has to come out.


I don't believe its about expressing sexual frustrations or alleviating any tension. In my opinion its more about the rush they get over dominating another person. Rape is more about dominating the other person, rather than the actual sex. Sex is the ultimate form of control for some people, which is why they resort to it. This could of been a happy child without a worry in the world. Just a disgusting need for dominance and control over others.

Just a thought.



posted on Nov, 11 2006 @ 10:29 PM
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Originally posted by El Che
I would of killed someone like this myself what monster!!!!!!


Then you would be no better than him. Regardless of who the victim is, crime is crime. We have better ways to deal with these monsters.


Originally posted by El Che
I think the parents should go to trial to cause it is there fault to!


No, this was not a 12 year old boy out touching little girls. He is a grown man who made a decision himself. Face it, kids his age live a life of their own. To assume your child is a rapist would be wrong itself. The parents are not to blame here, unless they had solid evidence to feel their son had committed a crime. If they turned the other cheek to this evidence, then yes they are to blame. But as it stands, they had no idea just like anyone else.

At some point, the parents are no longer to blame for the actions of their child.



posted on Nov, 11 2006 @ 10:34 PM
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Ether way he a sick #$&*.

No matter what we have to know the cause to this behavior so we can stop or limit it.



posted on Nov, 11 2006 @ 10:41 PM
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Agree, but not necessarily true for everyone. I know a few people that just prefer to keep to themself. No frustration or anger, just completely satisfied with their current state. I believe they are missing out, but if you don't see what your missing out on I guess it doesn't affect you that much. So outcast and anger are not synonymous in my opinion.

I've always had a hard time trying to understand the things that people do and what provokes them. I guess neither of us really know the true explanation, unless we knew the guy.

I agree to that entire post and theres nothing i'd even want to consider debating. Excellent post and views on the subject.

Crisis



posted on Nov, 11 2006 @ 10:44 PM
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Most times, even the people who were familiar with the convict, would not beable to explain why they act in such a way.

Most of these people live dual lives. Which is why I feel the parents are not to blame.

These people go through much work to portray themselves in a certain way to those who know them, while keeping their dark secrets within.

I would think being exposed would act as some relief. Having to live in the shadows of yourself for so long would take its toll.



posted on Nov, 11 2006 @ 10:46 PM
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Our Young Offenders Act needs an overhaul badly. For certain crimes, like rape, murder and armed robbery, there should be an automatic elevation to adult court.

There is something wrong with people who do things like this and we need to remove them from our society. I'm against capital punishment and if paying taxes to imprison little freaks like this one for the rest of their natural life is the price we have to pay, then so be it.

Lock them up, throw away the key and never let them see the light of day again. I don't think there is any chance of rehabilitation for someone like this kid.



posted on Nov, 11 2006 @ 10:52 PM
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Face it, kids his age live a life of their own.

Exactly why he should be considered an adult. Sometimes it sickens me when I hear about age being the main focus on crimes and rules.

I think it depends on the nature of the crime that should be determined to undermined the age of the convicted.

I find that sometimes kids his age are smarter than experienced adults, and provide excellent, opinionated, views on the matter at hand.

I can't believe the things I hear 12 year olds talk about. Such as sex, drugs, alcohol, and crime. When I was 12 I was playing Hide N' Seek, and riding my bike around the neighborhood finding cool things to jump off.

Crisis



posted on Nov, 11 2006 @ 10:55 PM
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No arguments here.

I'm going to try to follow this case and be assured he is tried as an adult. I don't see any possibility of another outcome. The crime itself and the amount of counts is too much to ignore.

Sometimes we need to make an example of one to prevent it from happening in the future. I would be more than happy to see this case be the one to set an example.



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