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unless you want to back up your claims with evidence, simply listing products of technology by no means proves said products are of alien origin.
Originally posted by Everythingyouknowisalie
Lets see fiberoptics, Night Vision, semi conductors.....list goes on. Im just going by what Ive read but if you think about it it makes sense. I mean just take a look at computers....look how far they have come. But realeasing technogly slowly = profit.
the "laws" of the universe are only tentative, meaning they could change or become more conditional when a yet-to-be-reached, future event (possibly) occours. human knowledge can only account for the past (and the present).
Originally posted by balon0
My friend kept on saying about the Laws of the universe that we have developed which prevents some of the things i listed from happening such as travling faster than speed of light.
Originally posted by prototism
anyway balon0, your friend obviously doesnt understand that while many things are improbable, nothing is impossible. he will have a much easier life once he understands this.
[edit on 11/9/2006 by prototism]
people thought we coudlnt get to the moon because of lack of technology, isnt the same with people thought we coudldnt get to the moon because the moon doesnt exist
thats analogous to the arguement that there could be FAR more advanced alien technology out there that could travel faster than light, and traveling faster than light is IMPOSSIBLE no matter how advanced your technology is
our technology might be small but what we know in science is at a point where we can say that no technology can do this
your right in saying that we cant gauge how far along we are in terms of technological advancement, because we have no perspective, other than our own history but that doesn't mean that there are no limits to technology, because technology is a application of science.
there is however a limit as to how much you can understand something
take lightning for example, we understand it PERfectly
there is nothing left to understand about it
no matter how deeply you look how what new insights you might concieve of
we might not understand the universe to the same degree, actually we dont for a fact, but we CAN say for certain things, that we understand its basic limitations
for example with the lighting, before we understood what electrons were, we guessed at what it was, but we knew what it was NOT.
we knew it wasnt water, or...... light.. or something that we knew
same with our understand of modern physics, we dont have to completely understand something in order to say that something is possible of impossible
and traveling over the speed for light, traveling back in time, and pinpointing subatomic particles are examples
we cant do it, no, its not posssible to do no matter how much technology you have
theres a physical limitation based on how the systems work
the laws of motion back the day that newton thought up of isnt quite the fact schools teach them to be but thats what science is, its not that newton was WRONG, but there are just better and more exact methods of doing the same thing
new laws of the universe that govern forces and motion that are discovered are merely ammends to newtons laws it doesnt make them wrong, just inaccurate
same can be said about stuff that are just flat out impossible. we dont have to understand something COMPLETELY to know whats possible and impossible
meaning our understanding of something could be very basic, and we could still conclude that whether or not something was possible or impossible based on that knowledge
Optical communication systems date back two centuries, to the "optical telegraph" that French engineer Claude Chappe invented in the 1790s.
Alexander Graham Bell patented an optical telephone system, which he called the Photophone, in 1880, but his earlier invention, the telephone, proved far more practical. He dreamed of sending signals through the air, but the atmosphere didn't transmit light as reliably as wires carried electricity. In the decades that followed, light was used for a few special applications, such as signalling between ships, but otherwise optical communications, like the experimental Photophone Bell donated to the Smithsonian Institution, languished on the shelf.
In the intervening years, a new technology slowly took root that would ultimately solve the problem of optical transmission, although it was a long time before it was adapted for communications. It depended on the phenomenon of total internal reflection, which can confine light in a material surrounded by other materials with lower refractive index, such as glass in air. In the 1840s, Swiss physicist Daniel Collodon and French physicist Jacques Babinet showed that light could be guided along jets of water for fountain displays. British physicist John Tyndall popularized light guiding in a demonstration he first used in 1854, guiding light in a jet of water flowing from a tank. By the turn of the century, inventors realized that bent quartz rods could carry light, and patented them as dental illuminators. By the 1940s, many doctors used illuminated plexiglass tongue depressors.