The Democrats circle of poverty and crime

Keeps growing around major American cities, turning solid communities into slums,

People keep moving further out trying to outrun this blight but there is no running from it.

And now we have voted in more of the politicians that create the policies that feed this monster. Go figure.

I think you're right. You'd think with Americans 15 second attention span they would get it after spending an extra 7-12 hours per week in traveling to/from work.

Yes, there is more poverty and crime in inner-cities than there is in the suburbs, but you've failed to provide any evidence that shows how Dems are any more, or less, responsible for it than Republicans are.

It's been the right-wing's agendas pushed through, unchecked, for the last 6 years, and; Dems don't take control of the House (possibly Senate as well) till January, so how exactly are they already to blame for the rise you've seen in the recent past?

Is this just a case of misplaced griping over the recent election results?

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Misplaced Griping?

HA

Don't you think it's funny that the only time the voting machines malfunction, or there is DISENFRANCHISEMENT in the "Chad" system is when the Republicans win?

Funny how all the machines worked this time. Even after all the dems were heated up to call fraud in case they lost.

Not misplaced griping my friend, real class.... When the Reps lose, they do so gracefully....

No one stole the election, (Florida Bush) no one Disenfranchised anyone (Ohio).. No the griping, ie crying, comes from only one corner. The Republicans Lost and Lost graciously. Unlike their counter parts.

Semper

Originally posted by redmage

Is this just a case of misplaced griping over the recent election results?

It began with President Lyndon Johnson’s “Great Society” back in the sixties. The welfare programs that came from that have created a circle of poverty and crime around the necks of every large American city.

Government housing from that legislation concentrated crime near the city cores, causing business and others to move away from the crime and higher taxes.

Welfare didn’t reduce poverty it only increased it ten fold.

Businesses that remained and tried to tough it out went broke and laid off people, home owners with all their money tied to the equity in their homes lost out big time as public housing encroached on good neighborhoods turning them into slums.

No war in history has left such a scorched earth as we have around our biggest cities thanks to the Democrat’s “Great Society” crime.

That cancer of poverty and crime from democrat’s ineptitude continues to spread outward from the inner cities to the surrounding suburbs.


Sour grapes you say, yes I don’t like seeing America going down the tubes.

Originally posted by semperfortis
No one stole the election, (Florida Bush) no one Disenfranchised anyone (Ohio).. No the griping, ie crying, comes from only one corner. The Republicans Lost and Lost graciously. Unlike their counter parts.

Exactly. We lost fair and square, I wonder why the other side can never admit that when it happens to them? :shk:

Gracious losers.

Hold on. Not yet. Not yet.

You dont think peace is upon us, do you?

Oh, brother! Things will start to get agravated now. Just wait and see.

We are upon the most dangerous time right now.

Wait till our president goes for revenge. That's coming soon. I am very happy today to see a change, but as long as that man is in the White House, we are in grave danger of a huge war, far worse than we've had up until now.

Originally posted by sleeper
It began with President Lyndon Johnson’s “Great Society” back in the sixties.

The sixties? You're complaining now about the sixties?

Well, I suppose it's too bad that the Republicans had the last 6 years for unimpeded policy change, yet completely failed you when it came to correcting Dems past transgressions fom 4 decades ago.

Ford, Nixon, Regan, and G.H.W.B. could only dream of the kind of lack of oversight and broad sweeping acceptance, by Congress, that Dubbya had been privy to, yet chose to blow away.

My condolences in your party failing you.

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Originally posted by redmage


The sixties? You're complaining now about the sixties?

That leftwing ideology cancer began in the sixties---have the cities improve any since then? No, they only got worst. Nearly all major cities have been under local politics run by the Democrats for the last three decades.

Originally posted by sleeper
That leftwing ideology cancer began in the sixties---have the cities improve any since then? No, they only got worst. Nearly all major cities have been under local politics run by the Democrats for the last three decades.

Actually, according to the U.S. Department of Justice, violent crime statistics started droping sharply during the Clinton years.

But wait, you said that L.B.J.'s welfare programs created the "circle of poverty and crime" and that it was to blame.

Now it's the local mayors faults instead? Did the local mayors now create the national welfare system from the sixties?

So which is it, the mayors or L.B.J.?

Looks like you're developing a case of Kerry's disease.

*flop-flop, flip-flop*

Once again, my condolences for your party failing you.

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Originally posted by redmage


So which is it, the mayors or L.B.J.?

You know the answere but what the heck, its both, LBJ started it and the mayors keep feed it---the beast of poverty that is.

Looks like you're getting a case of Kerry's disease.

*flop-flop, flip-flop*

Thanks for throwing me a liberal bone.

Once again, my condolences for your party failing you.

On the contrary, I have been getting bored lately with listening to all the leftwing propaganda; I now am energized and know what I’m going to be doing for the next two years. ATS is only one of my hangouts.

Originally posted by sleeper
LBJ started it and the mayors keep feed it---the beast of poverty that is.

I disagree.

I think it's a matter of poor education levels & standards (ex. "no child left behind" is a joke) and poor foreign trade policies (such as N.A.F.T.A & D.R.-C.A.F.T.A.) which allow companies to take our "well paid" jobs and ship them across borders, for pennies on the dollar, forcing our educated workers to take low wage service jobs instead.

We have a serious problem with the "working poor", in this country, and the policies implemented over the last 6 years have only furthered the "attack on the middle class", thus widening the gap.

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Well I can only say that during the Democrats and under Clinton we did great in the markets.

Now under Bush and his gracious and generous denfense budget my husband is making more than he ever.

So I will say that . . . by experience with both parties has been good to us.

Originally posted by redmage

It's been the right-wing's agendas pushed through, unchecked, for the last 6 years, and; Dems don't take control of the House (possibly Senate as well) till January, so how exactly are they already to blame for the rise you've seen in the recent past?

Is this just a case of misplaced griping over the recent election results?

ahahaha I guess they forgot who has been running the show for the past six years now. How soon they forget and how soon they blame even before the Dems are taking power. I think they forgot to wear their rose-colored glasses today. They are all in mourning their chief-warmonger is leaving the building, but don't worry he's probably got a wheelbarrow full of money to take with him.

Originally posted by ThePieMaN


ahahaha I guess they forgot who has been running the show for the past six years now. How soon they forget and how soon they blame even before the Dems are taking power. I think they forgot to wear their rose-colored glasses today. They are all in mourning their chief-warmonger is leaving the building, but don't worry he's probably got a wheelbarrow full of money to take with him.

If you think that the rotten core surrounding major cities is from the last six years you aren’t wearing any glasses you are simply blind.

The dems have hoodwinked the working class, and now the working class will pay higher taxes and get very little in return.

I’m in the class that will benefit from taking money from the workers paychecks, so I am wearing my rosy sunglasses.

Nevertheless, I will keep exposing the leftwing lies and misdeeds, that’s the least I can do for my country.

Originally posted by semperfortis
Funny how all the machines worked this time.

With such a cavalier disregard for evidence and factual accuracy, I sure hope you're not a detective. No, plenty of machines malfunctioned. Just a couple of news items:

New voting machines pose election day problems
Poll workers struggle with e-ballots

I suspect that the reason the Republicans are not crying fraud is that they underestimated the extent to which their traditional base deserted them. If they call fraud and there is an independent investigation, their own frauds would come to light.

The Republicans Lost and Lost graciously. Unlike their counter parts.

Right. Which is why we're seeing such a rash of "Dems are baby-eaters" threads popping up on ATS.

Originally posted by sleeper
If you think that the rotten core surrounding major cities is from the last six years you aren’t wearing any glasses you are simply blind.

The dems have hoodwinked the working class, and now the working class will pay higher taxes and get very little in return.

I’m in the class that will benefit from taking money from the workers paychecks, so I am wearing my rosy sunglasses.

Nevertheless, I will keep exposing the leftwing lies and misdeeds, that’s the least I can do for my country.

Ok so what di the republicans do to fix any of that during the 6 years they have been around? Aside from Start a war, give Oil companies more breaks and more protected lands to explore, misplace trillions of dollars, accept bribes from sheisters in exchange for tribal casinos, and other corporate giveaways. More companies have outsourced in the past 6 years. John Q Public was an afterthought once they got them in office. The satiated the corporate needs before the voters who put them there.

Oh there will be plenty of "Dems eat babies" threads alright. They'll fit right in with the "GOP are the devil" threads...

I haven't seen a whole lot of complaining about fraud in the media yet...amazing how that works, isn't it? Dems win both houses, and a majority of state governor offices, and loe and behold, very little in the way of accusations of fraud. Hmmm...

Not that there weren't problems...there were. Seems most, if not all, were explained away as bugs in the system. Still early though.

Originally posted by seagull
I haven't seen a whole lot of complaining about fraud in the media yet...amazing how that works, isn't it? Dems win both houses, and a majority of state governor offices, and loe and behold, very little in the way of accusations of fraud. Hmmm...

One of the reasons you don't see many complains (not that it wasn't any) is because the GOP thought that they had the elections on their pockets and the results has gotten many by surprised.

The fact is that more younger people vote in this elections than in the presidential and that the turn around was record braking is sure show that people wanted a change.

So is not debate about that.

Now my question will be What democrats are going to do with the power and how they plan to fix America and Iraq.

That is my question now and I will be as hard on them as I was on the GOP when they were holding the congress.

A lot of voters will be watching very closely the new Congress and they will be very critical if things do not get better.

Originally posted by ThePieMaN

Ok so what di the republicans do to fix any of that during the 6 years they have been around

The welfare hellhole that is wrapped around large cities' throats and gobbling up suburbs and turning them into slums is a local issue, the feds can’t just walk in and clean house, cities are sovereign entities within State jurisdiction, and even Governors have limited powers over them.

Local politics unlike national politics over the last thirty years has been and remains the domain of Democrats.

The Democrats have screwed up the cities letting poverty and crime permeate into surrounding neighborhoods bringing crime and poverty to more people.

I guess the American people want the same only now on at the national level.