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The "AHnunAHki" & the 7 seals Bible Code

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posted on Dec, 19 2006 @ 11:36 PM
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Originally posted by reaganero

just your opinion really. numerous verses contradict a prertib rapture. but i think he "shortens" the tribulation period for the christians but doesn't exclude them from initial hardships. sending them "into the hills".


Reaganero, I'm not interested in presenting my opinion, I'm more interested in discussing the facts.

Matthew 24 and Luke 21 start out talking about the same thing, the birth pangs of the last days. Then as they are running parallel Matthew 24 says:


Matthew 24:7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places. 8 All these are the beginning of sorrows. 9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake


Luke 21 talks of the birthpangs and then says:


Luke 21:10 Then said he unto them, Nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: 11 And great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven. 12 But before all these, they shall lay their hands on you, and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues


The point is that Matthew 24 talks about the birthpangs and then says " THEN shall they deliver you" Matthew 24 is talking about the end times and the time of the Antichrist.

Luke 21 talks of the birthpangs and then says "BUT BEFORE THESE THINGS" Luke 21 is talking about the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD. Luke 21 is telling the Christians to head for the hills when Jerusalem is under attack. Matthew 24 is telling the Jews to head for the hills when the Antichrist attack them. Understand this and the pretrib rapture becomes clear in Luke 21. Luke 21 eventually catches back up with Matthew 24 at the Second Coming.

You say that there are numerous scriptures that contradict a pretrib rapture. I can't find any. Perhaps you will be kind enough to list them?




posted on Dec, 20 2006 @ 07:36 AM
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those verses only enforce what i've been saying. "they shall kill you"...some of the christians will be found and killed as martyrs. some won't because they'll see the signs of the times and know and remember god's warning to not accept the mark and run to the hills to hide. others won't be able to "get away" but instead will be captive and turned over to the "police".

so, as i stated and you clearly just pointed out there will most definitely be a time where christians suffer before any type of rapture. they will have to endure "some" of the tribulation by being persecuted. then god shortens the pain for the survivors and "raptures" them.

that's why i pointed out those verses in the first place.



posted on Dec, 20 2006 @ 07:43 AM
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Originally posted by TheSonOfMan

Originally posted by reaganero
what about some comet that is supposed to hit the earth and cause all the famine and death?



that should be in 2007or 2008.



ok. the dates on this chart are way off in my opinion (maybe) but if you follow the timeline itself you'll see it's pretty acurate. the way you're placing things doesn't add up.

Timeline:



posted on Dec, 20 2006 @ 12:21 PM
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SunMatrix...I'm sorry to say but christians will not only be the ones saved. There's others that have strong faith in God. What I say is why worry about what our bodies will endure, why FEAR what might or might not happen? What I say is for us to wait for the moment and yes know the signs so we can get ready and have a plan. Honestly I don't see myself going anywhere from where I live, if i get a sign or a vision in my dreams that I must leave...then you know what....I will listen to my gut. It's been way too many times I've ignored my gut. So this time there will be no thinking twice about it. Christians aren't holy ones at all...Crusades ring a bell??? Bush is christian....In other words...don't rely on religion, rely on your faith and the light. The End



posted on Dec, 20 2006 @ 12:34 PM
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hey, harv i know what you're saying bout "living in fear". it's a tough one to avoid when it comes to apocolyptic topics. if god's "warning" believers and the like then it kind puts a bolt in ya.

i guess the main thing to know is be fearful of the end days and heed the warnings and pray not to lose faith.



posted on Dec, 20 2006 @ 12:53 PM
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Originally posted by reaganero
so, as i stated and you clearly just pointed out there will most definitely be a time where christians suffer before any type of rapture. they will have to endure "some" of the tribulation by being persecuted. then god shortens the pain for the survivors and "raptures" them.


In the Bible it does say that those with the Seal of God are to be spared some of the plagues that will afflict much of humanity. This shows that you are correct when you say that Christians will have to endure "some" of the tribulation but not all of it. This part of the Bible also demonstrates that Christians will be on Earth during the tribulation, other wise why would they need the Seal of God to protect them from some of the chastisements.



posted on Dec, 20 2006 @ 12:56 PM
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Originally posted by SkyWay

Originally posted by reaganero
so, as i stated and you clearly just pointed out there will most definitely be a time where christians suffer before any type of rapture. they will have to endure "some" of the tribulation by being persecuted. then god shortens the pain for the survivors and "raptures" them.


In the Bible it does say that those with the Seal of God are to be spared some of the plagues that will afflict much of humanity. This shows that you are correct when you say that Christians will have to endure "some" of the tribulation but not all of it. This part of the Bible also demonstrates that Christians will be on Earth during the tribulation, other wise why would they need the Seal of God to protect them from some of the chastisements.


thanks man. that's pretty much what i'm trying to say over and over. i don't deny a rapture it's just that i don't see anywhere where it claims believers won't have to be put through some of the trials. i would love to be wrong! trust me.



posted on Dec, 20 2006 @ 01:11 PM
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Originally posted by reaganero
thanks man. that's pretty much what i'm trying to say over and over. i don't deny a rapture it's just that i don't see anywhere where it claims believers won't have to be put through some of the trials. i would love to be wrong! trust me.


All anyone needs to do to see that the good will suffer many of the chastisements along with the bad is just take a hard look at life all around us. Christians are not spared from any of the diseases and harms that befall non-Christians. Believers are afflicted with cancer just like non-believers.

Christians get into car accidents just like non-Christians. Christians get colds the flu measles and have financial difficulties just about as much as the non-belivers. So what makes anyone think that God is going to spare them from the troubles that will afflict mankind during the tribulation?

God doesn't even spare innocent children from suffering. And even if we may be Christian, most of us a much more sinners than any child is. So, if innocent babes are not spared what makes any sinner, Christian or not, think they are not going to have to endure chastisement?

However, I am not saying that Christians will not be spared from ANY of the tribulation, for they will have the Seal of God. I also am not saying that Christians suffer EXACTLY as much as non-believers, though in general we do. But of course some faithful are healed and helped through difficulties through prayer. From time to time faith IS rewarded with a miracle.



posted on Dec, 20 2006 @ 01:44 PM
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Originally posted by reaganero

thanks man. that's pretty much what i'm trying to say over and over. i don't deny a rapture it's just that i don't see anywhere where it claims believers won't have to be put through some of the trials. i would love to be wrong! trust me.


This doesn't sound like Christians going through the tribulations.


Matthew 24:37 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, 39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.


The Jews are the ones that are sealed and go through the tribulation. The time of the Gentiles is over at the rapture. God now turns his attention toward his people and the scales come off their eyes and they see the Messiah. The Gentile that misses the rapture receives strong delusion and believes the lie. God is not interested in those who serve him only in times of trouble.



posted on Dec, 20 2006 @ 02:48 PM
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Originally posted by harvosky
Christians aren't holy ones at all...Crusades ring a bell???


Yes the Crusades ring a bell. That's when the Roman Empire that could not kill the Christians took over the Chistian movement by forming the Catholic Church. This Church or Mystery Babylon hunted down the Jews under the guise of the Roman Empire in somtething they called the CRUSADES. Sure the Muslim movement was checked, but can you find a Crusade that the Jews weren't attacked and killed? In the meantime, worship of God was changed from the Sabbath, to the worship of Baal on his day, SUNday. Baal means LORD, hence the Lords day.



Bush is christian

Really? Or so it appears.....Wonder why he is dividing Gods land when God says not to. Surely, he knows this.......What's up with that?



....In other words...don't rely on religion,

I have no use for religion. I understand the origin.


rely on your faith and the light.


Careful, even Satan believes there is a God...............Satan often appears as an angel of light.

By the way, thanks for serving our country and taking part in Jeremiah 50 and 51.



posted on Dec, 20 2006 @ 03:14 PM
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Originally posted by Sun Matrix

Originally posted by reaganero

thanks man. that's pretty much what i'm trying to say over and over. i don't deny a rapture it's just that i don't see anywhere where it claims believers won't have to be put through some of the trials. i would love to be wrong! trust me.


This doesn't sound like Christians going through the tribulations.


Matthew 24:37 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, 39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.


The Jews are the ones that are sealed and go through the tribulation. The time of the Gentiles is over at the rapture. God now turns his attention toward his people and the scales come off their eyes and they see the Messiah. The Gentile that misses the rapture receives strong delusion and believes the lie. God is not interested in those who serve him only in times of trouble.


it does sound close to what you're saying but keep in mind it also says "so shall the coming of the son of man be". now i agree that when christ returns the rapture will happen. and it will be quick. and one will be left where there were two.

so, i'm saying that verse condensed the tribulation to nothing and went straight to the rapture only for an illustration of how quickly that part works out. keep in mind christ doesn't return until the 7th seal. so all the other bits happen before.



posted on Dec, 20 2006 @ 03:17 PM
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are only 144,000 jews getting seals of protection? that number matches the amount of room in heaven too. is there a pre-rapture rapture?



posted on Dec, 20 2006 @ 06:13 PM
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Originally posted by reaganero
are only 144,000 jews getting seals of protection? that number matches the amount of room in heaven too. is there a pre-rapture rapture?



The 144,000 Jews that are sealed are killed and are the FIRST FRUITS of the Jewish harvest. It's not really a seal of protection, it is the seal of God. When the pit is opened those that have the seal of God cannot be hurt by the creatures that come out of the pit.



posted on Dec, 21 2006 @ 09:01 AM
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i'm not doubting you on that last post i just can't find it. (lazy)


what verse gives that info?



posted on Dec, 21 2006 @ 11:59 AM
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Rev 7:4 shows that the 144,000 are Jews and are sealed.
Rev 9:4 shows those sealed of God were not to be hurt by locusts form the pit.
Rev 14:4 Shows the 144,000 were the first fruits.


Rev 14:3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth. 4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.


Jesus on his resurection was the first fruits of the dead in Christ rising.


1 Corinthians 15:20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.


Cornelius was the first fruits of the Gentile harvest.

First fruits of a harvest occured when a sample of the harvest was taken and approved guaranteeing that there would be a harvest. The first fruits were the guarantee of the future harvest.



posted on Dec, 21 2006 @ 05:37 PM
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Originally posted by harvosky
SunMatrix...I'm sorry to say but christians will not only be the ones saved. There's others that have strong faith in God. What I say is why worry about what our bodies will endure, why FEAR what might or might not happen? What I say is for us to wait for the moment and yes know the signs so we can get ready and have a plan. Honestly I don't see myself going anywhere from where I live, if i get a sign or a vision in my dreams that I must leave...then you know what....I will listen to my gut. It's been way too many times I've ignored my gut. So this time there will be no thinking twice about it. Christians aren't holy ones at all...Crusades ring a bell??? Bush is christian....In other words...don't rely on religion, rely on your faith and the light. The End


Yo dont worry about what sunmatrix or reganero are saying,these two have basically turned this into there own thread..and personally i dont care, because the ones who were destined for the message have got it..im speaking of you,annie,esoteric,always,dung,peeps and im sure may others who have viewed the thread but never posted anything

,..your doing fine man..your on the right path..there is nothing to fear..fear is like walking in the darkness..you cant see were your going.


but when you walk in the light you can see cleary whats in front of you.



Peace be with you!!



posted on Dec, 21 2006 @ 05:57 PM
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Originally posted by Funkydung
hey guys. im still here as always. my point of view on all of this is that for som i agree with ya on your point of view.


thats wassup brother




i have always felt as a child that christ and the angels are not from this planet.


You were destined to know the truth.



i mean when i go out at night and look up at our solar system i feel in my heart that out there is where our creator is at somewhere. then when i got older and actually studied the bible and our history here on earth i belive that my feelings were right.


Yea man thats cool



sun i take what you say to heart as well because i also see the things you do even tho we sorta disagree on where our creator is at this point and time.


I dont disagree with sunmatrix as a person,i just disagree of the way he interprets the holy scriptures.




i do agree with som on this but im not so sure about the seals.


lots of people stay away from revelation because of fear of misinterpretation..but i tell you the truth..if i never had made the bible/alien connection then i would never have found the truth.




i myself really am interested in the seals because who wouldnt be ya know. its a really heavy subject and thats just the kind of thing i like.


Ive already given you the information you need about the seals,just re-read the thread from the beginning


you might have missed something.




but if chirst comes back tommorrow or 5 years from now its not that big of deal to me. but it is interesting to study no doubt. som might be on to something but either way i know that there isnt much time. i belive i will see both of you on the other side.


Hey i hope to see you to man



posted on Dec, 21 2006 @ 06:11 PM
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Originally posted by harvosky

but the weird thing is that I always look for "Orion's Belt" in the sky....don't know why but it brings peace in my heart and the feeling is just weird.


Same here,it is remarkable to think how there stars could line up so seemingly perfectly..that should be proof enough of a higher universal intelligence.

When i look up..it always seems i spot orions belt before anything esle.






We all have different interpretations that keep us in line with God and Christ. So let's all hold hands and give thanks to our lord.



Revelation 11:17 says..."We give thanks to you,Lord God Almighty,the one who is and who was,because you have taken your GREAT POWER and have begun to reign.The nations were angry;and your wrath has come.The time has come for judging the dead,and for rewarding your servants the prophets and your saints and those who reverence your name, both small and great-and for destroying those who destroy the earth"



posted on Dec, 21 2006 @ 08:27 PM
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READ AND UNDERSTAND THE FOLLOWING


2 Thessalonians

1:3 We ought always to thank God for you,brothers,and rightly so,because your FAITH is growing more and more, and the LOVE everyone of you has for each other is increasing.

1:5 And this is EVIDENCE that God's judgement is right,and as a result you will be counted worthy of the KINGDOM OF GOD.

1:7 This will happen when the Lord Jesus is REVEALED from heaven in BLAZING fire with his POWERFUL angels.

1:8 He will punish those who DO NOT KNOW GOD and DO NOT OBEY the gospel of our Lord Jesus.

1:9 They will be shut out from the PRESENCE of the Lord and from his MAJESTY of his POWER on the DAY he comes to be GLORIFIED in his HOLY PEOPLE and to be MARVELED at among all those who have BELIEVED.

1:11 With this in mind,we constantly pray for you,that our God may count you worthy of his CALLING,and that by his POWER he may fulfill every GOOD purpose of yours, and every act prompted by your FAITH.

2:8 And then the lawless one (anitchrist) will be revealed,whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the BREATH of his mouth and DESTROY by the SPLENDOR of his COMING.

2:9 The coming of the lawless one (anitchrist) will be in accordance with the works of satan displayed in all kinds of countefiet miracles,signs and wonders,and in any sort of evil that decieves those who are perishing.

2:9 They perish because they REFUSED to love the truth and so be SAVED.

2:11 For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie (the lie is,aliens dont exsist),and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth (the truth is,aliens DO exisit) but have delighted in wickedness.

Stand Firm

2:13 But we ought always to thank God for you,brothers loved by the Lord,because from the beginning God chose you to be SAVED through the sanctifying work of the SPIRIT and through BELIEF IN THE TRUTH.

Hebrews 9:37

..For just in a VEY LITTLE while,"He who is coming will come and NOT DELAY. But the righteous will live by FAITH. And if he shrinks back,Ah will not be pleased with him." But we are not of those who shrink back and are destroyed,but of those who BELIEVE and are SAVED.


By Faith

11:1 Now faith is being SURE of what we HOPE for and CERTAIN of what we DO NOT SEE. This is what the ancients were commended for. By faith we understand that the UNIVERSE was formed at God's command,so that what is SEEN was not made out of what was VISIBLE.

11:5 By faith Enoch was TAKEN FROM THIS LIFE,so that he DID NOT experience death;he could not be found,because God had taken him away. For before he was TAKEN,he was COMMENDED as one who pleased God.And without faith it is IMPOSSIBLE to please God,because anyone who comes to him MUST BELIEVE he exsist and that he REWARDS those who EARNESTLY seek him.

11:8 By faith Noah,when warned about things not yet seen,in HOLY FEAR built and ark to save his family. By his faith he condemned the world and became HIER of the RIGHTEOUSNESS that comes by FAITH.

11:10 For he was looking forward to the city (the mothership Zion) with foundations,whose architect and builder is GOD.

11:16 Instead, they were longing for a better country-a HEAVENLY one.Therefore God is not ashamned to be called thier God,for he has prepared a CITY for them.

****That city is the Anunnaki MotherShip,were all the believers are going to be taken****

12:2 Let us fix our eyes on Jesus, the AUTHOR and PERFECTER of our faith,who for the joy set before him endured the cross,scorning its shame, and sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.


12:22 But you have come to Mount Zion, to the heavenly Jerusalem (city of peace),the city of the Living God(The Anunnaki).You have come to thousands upon thousands of angels in JOYFULL assembly,to the church of the firstborn,whose names are written in heaven.You have come to God,the JUDGE of ALL men,to the spirits of the righteous men made perfect,and to Jesus the mediator of a NEW COVENANT,and to the sprinkled blood that SPEAKS a BETTER word then then the blood of Abel.

13:5 Keep your lives free from the love of money and be content with what you have,because God has said,"Never will I leave you,never will i forsake you"..so we say with confidence ,"the lord is my helper.I will not be afriad.What can man do to me?"


12:28 Therefore,since we are receiving a KINGDOM that cannot be shaken,let us be thankful, and so worship God acceptably with REVERENCE and AWE,for our God is a consuming FIRE.



posted on Dec, 22 2006 @ 07:41 AM
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som you worship angels or demons. i'm not for certain which one's but you do. god is of no particular alien race. he's god. nothing was before him. so, if you put god in a classified race you've only fallen into the ultimate trap that the dragon wants you to believe.

so, the point being..analnookies and niphilums and martian et's are just OTHER creations. just like you and me. keep that in mind. they are not relevant to your salvation.

god carved the universe out of himself. god is all around you. look up in amazement and wonder.






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