Originally posted by Rockpuck
Ed... if everything we can possibly see, hear, touch and feel is already dead (passed) then explain how to be in touch with the living (future) and
why that makes us eternal?
The statement made by PureEnergy has nothing to do with "everything one can possibley see
, just what most people are educated to see
in this Time. In other words, one sees what one is taught to see, while, at the same time, being taught not to question the teacher. This
form of 'indoctrinal' teaching serves to limit what one comes to know and can come to know, and is very well entrenched in both the Church and the
Educational System in America.
So, Rock, what you "see, touch, and feel" is, literally, what you are either taught to, or willing to interact with, in that manner. The words of
Jesus quoted by PureEnergy are the Truth, and may be found in 2 places; the Gnostic Bible and in two of the Apocryphal Gospels; notably in the Gospels
of Ruth and Mary. Understand, when you read a modern edition of the Bible, that it is short by 14 Books
, taken from it by the Puritan Reforms
in the 1800's. Most people are only familiar with 5 of those books, as the are included in the Knox translation, between the Old and New Testements,
and make up the 400 year gap between the last of the Prophets and the Birth of Jesus.
While I'm at it, EsotericTeacher's post on the "666" is also right on the money, and correct. 666 is also the number of the Hebrew word for
"Man". The reason that there are 3 Six's is because, as we are made in the Image of God, we are also a Trinity of Body, Mind, and Spirit. As
"E.T." so graphicly stated, the Six is representative of those things we Love--Body, Mind, and Spirit---above the Truth and God. 777, on the other
hand, represents Uncondition and the Perfection of Man.
Tho I am a Christian, it is, and was, formed as an "addition" with me rather than a "spiritual beginning"; something I personally encompassed
rather than being "convicted" for, and after the fact of knowing the Living Law and the Author of it; God. That is because I am a product of a
Culture that is not, and entirely different from, that of Western Europe and modern American Society. We have a different system of Spiritual
Education based in a knowledge base and Tradition that is thousands of years older than, even, Judaeism. We call this The First Covenant
not because it necessarily was the First Covenant God made with Man, post-Eden, it is just the only current one that has remained completely intact
since it's inception--(that we have any knowledge of).
This brings me to the Seals. After the Beginning, when Man had "gone forth and multiplied", and after Eden, God made Covenants with the Tribes of
Man, and there were 7 of them (7 Sealed Books). These Seven Covenants were Given in the Ways that the Seven Tribes of Man could understand and Accept.
With them were Given the Laws and a "Sign of the Covenant". The most published, and that because of the invention of Writing in Sumer, is that given
to the Jews-- the Law of Moses and the Arc of the Covenant. From the beliefs of the Essenes, (AKA, "Sons of God" and "School of the Prophets"; the
Authors of Mssianic Belief). That being the case, the Christian Faith is under the Seal of the Covenant of the Jews, as it is actually a Sect of
Essene Judaeism, that which believed that Jesus was the Messiah, as it was the Essenes that developed the Messianic Faith. There are 6 other
Covenants, some kept, and most not, made with the Six other "Houses" (Tribes) of Man. These are the 7 Books and Seven Seals (the Signatures of God
and Man), of Revelations. The Book eaten by the Prophet Daniel was/is the Book of the Covenant with his People, which was Sweet to his Mouth--was
Good--but made him sick to his stomach when he swallowed it--because it had been broken by Men. The Seven Books are opened, the Seals Broken, because
of Judgement, as a Witness for God of their Making between Man and God, showing that God never broke His Word.
Understand that God is Holy, and will NOT go against His own Word. Only Men can break a Covenant, or will, or have--and with God and each other.
I posted these things for you to think about. I don't have all the answers for you; you have to find those on your own and for yourself--or not.
Consider this post as what it is--a Sharing between me and you--and not a Rebuke of anything. I suggest that you seek the Truth, and the Word, in
Life--as I know as surely as I write this, thet the Changeless, Timeless, Truth of God is clearly Written in Life, itself. All one needs to do is Look