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Theory about Heaven and Hell

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posted on Nov, 15 2002 @ 04:50 AM
Hmm if I'm correct TC you are saying I know little about masonry? And I do know stuff about christianity, there is a difference from convincing one's self in "understanding" something, and taking it face value, I choose to take christianity at face value, and I've met many good christians. But you are a turd, stinking and moist.

And bluegrl, Lucifer is the Morning Star, Venus, a latin word, put into the Bible by King James, there was NO Lucifer some beautiful angel.

Anything added to the bible is wrong, but TC hasn't seemed to gotten that through his head.

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posted on Nov, 15 2002 @ 06:29 AM
Your own words tie you up like the stupid little troll that you are, FM. You try and tell me about something that you take at face value from a distance without the first understanding. Your knowledge of Christianity and its book is extremely sketchy at best, yet you come in here attacking that which you have no clue. Who, or what is the piece of dung?
You are filth, and you are definitely the worst excuse for a Mason that I've ever had the misfortune to run across. As a matter of fact, the more you type your hatred and ignorance on the board, the more I'm sure you aren't a Mason but are just some sort of Mason groupie.

posted on Nov, 15 2002 @ 06:34 AM

Originally posted by FreeMason
No, God communicates to Satan using the Emergency Washington-Moscow phone (for emergencies only)

And when they fight they do it in english pubs, where the protestant english wouldn't know that it was in fact Jesus fighting the devil, if it bit them in the ass.

And as for traveling through space, I actually saw them once with my telescope, they were riding these motocycles, they looked like harleys' but the wheels were made of fire and instead of exhaust it spewed a huge trail like a comet.

And I was at this brothel down the street, and I swear that the tunnel to heaven was behind the back currtain, I know it was I caught a glimps I'm sure I did.

And that's a cool webpage, especially the part that asks questions that not even devout religious nuts can answer...such as...

Why does god punish people just because they are born somewhere that's never heard of jesus? Why must they be born only to suffer eternal damnation?

Stuff like that....well I have the answer!

God IS Satan...he is a bi-polar psycho...creating one day, destroying the next.

God is messed up in the head because for infinity before creation, he sat around infinitely doing nothing and infinitely thinking nothing in the dark.

So one day he flipped, and created the universe, and now he is vengeful because he has wasted so much of his eternal life sitting around in a drug induced stooper.

That's why he has all those nuns...he wants everything we have, hence why somedays he wiggs out and becomes "satan" taking a trip to hell to whip those good souls who doubted his sanity. Then he flings the souls at already living people, possessing them to see what happens on his big screen tv. (another item the church handed to him, how you might ask? They crusified it and it ressurected to him)

He also doesn't accept gifts, he returned my fruit cake, I left it to him on the door step and a year later....It came back, and it was all rotten too...the least he could have done was kept it fresh.

And you have to watch out with the bible, for yes...IT IS THE WORD OF GOD...but it's hard to tell which god he is in what parts of the bible...I believe the old testament is his "satan" phase, and the new testament he's kinda mellow and all "yeah man...come to my's groovy, and has booze"...but of course it is predicted that very soon he's going to be pissed off again by our "earthly booze and sex" and the fact he can't get any, cause if he can rot out my fruit cake imagine what happens to those nuns

And so comes revelations...revelations reveal, is where the TRUE god is revealed to us, yes...the TRUE god. I say true because this is where he really wiggs out and becomes both of his personalities.

As Revelations ensues many angels will be bewildered as god insistantly punches his face and kicks his A$s while hurling fire and brimstone at an unsuspecting earth. Then at a moment when he's beaten down his Satan side...he'll ressurect us all as forgiveness for burying us in indominable ash. But as we are ascending to heaven he gets pissed that he has no more people to make him pornos and his satan side begins beating the crap out of his god side...and starts to throw meteors at the ascending souls...many will be knocked back to earth and they'll become the heathens living in a godless world, as god goes into a comatose psychotic episode, and retreats to a far corner of some black hole somewhere...

...This leaves the Angels to govern heaven in a somewhat democratic fasion, and after billions of years god's psychotic scar will fade from the universe, he'll go back to infinitely thinking and doing nothing in the darkness of a black hole, and we'll be free once more to simply live and be one with nature.

Ahh...I love happy endings...

Exhibit "A", in case you wanted proof of ignorance and lack of posting worth.

posted on Nov, 15 2002 @ 12:00 PM
LOLOLOLOL!!!!!! Thank you for quoting that!! I LOVE IT!!!

posted on Nov, 15 2002 @ 12:29 PM
I'm not sure how you mean that, James, so I'm thumbing my nose at you at this time, just in case it is needed!

posted on Nov, 15 2002 @ 05:58 PM
Wow Thomas Crowne if you can't distinguish Satire than you are more stupid than I thought.

It is also interesting how you don't comment on what you said about me and masonry, nor about Lucifer being Venus, perhaps because you don't really have ANY ANSWERS TO THOSE!

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posted on Nov, 16 2002 @ 11:55 AM
in my opinion and the bible says it that heaven and hell are empty
there is no regulear poeple in there
you see god said that on the last day he would choose who would be on his kingdom and who will be in hell
he said he would rise the dead and then he would pick
but the last day hasn't come yet so then if god hasn't picked how can there be people in hell or heaven?
that's why i say my statement

posted on Jun, 26 2008 @ 03:29 PM
reply to post by blahblahblah
you do not have to be dead t go to heaven there is this thing called translation or changing youre flesh so it can go to heaven people who were translated include: CHRIST enoch elijah the raptured old testement saints the raptured new testement saints paul etc

in fact the the saints of heaven will sooner or later get their material bodies back

posted on Jun, 26 2008 @ 03:33 PM
reply to post by MidnightDStroyer
satan is not in hell and his fallen angels along with him are still alloud in heaven demons are something totally different then fallen angels they are the pre adamits or a race before adam and the disembodied spirits of giants

posted on Jun, 30 2008 @ 02:38 PM
Look at the TREE OF LIFE...

malkuth = kingdom (physical universe where we are)

daat = abyss kingdom (physical universe)

Hell is a planet in DAAT called HADES or SOOSAH...

On top of the surface of HADES/SOOSAH are zeta-human hybrids
and below are crypts (dungeons) where they keep souls.

There is stars and planets in both

malkuth and daat (antiuniverse)

Get it... thanks.. ah-men!

posted on Dec, 16 2008 @ 04:57 PM
Life is not existance.
To live is to be born and then die with unknown purpose.
To learn what you can from your experiences and choose your mind set.
Redemption is stories to tell.
Because either way we all fail to escape death and our goodbyes.
Life teaches us exactly that, but life also teaches us that we always wake up.
There are only two kinds of minds, the ones waking up and the ones asleep.
In the hardest of times, if one can remember that, then the change, pain, and love will not only be the same but feel the same.
Because life will never be perfect, nor were we meant to be naturally.
One must accept imperfection.
One must accept sin not as sin but a function of nature.
If evolution is true, and it is because we all came from someone, then sin is holy.
For we would not have evolved to be here without sin - otherwise known as instinct.
Instinct is the basis of all greed and necessary evil.
Hunger brings food to families through the ancient act of murder.
We greed for a better shelter for ourselves and loved ones.
We even are taught the one reason for our existance (sex) is a sin....
And sex can be a negative thing if done for the wrong reasons.
As can food be provided through loving agriculture over murder.
All functions of nature are both helpful and harmful.
Until one sees this in their daily life constantly, one will be unaware to the balance.
We are intelligent enough to know that the intelligent design knows all existing flaws.
So is sin really evil?
Or are the multiplying villainies of nature a tool of God?
Is the idea of sin, something that makes us condem ourselves?
One should not be afraid of the functions of living.
One should only be afraid to live life not performing those functions and sins for the best of personal reasons.
And by personal reason I mean concious choice, not instinct.
Because instinct is a function of god and love, as is all of life around us.
Our instinct provides life for everyone still to come through evolution.
Thus instinct is a necessary evil and yet still a function of love.
A love we cannot escape if we tried.
Man must realise that we simply need each other to provide and protect for each other.
Because in the selfish function of nature's loving instinct, we act out of fear.
That fear causes us to become some of the greatest harms to each other.
These are the obvious lessons of life.
We are not meant to exist forever, but to live and die like an explosion.
To realise we cannot escape the help and hurt that we are.
To be empowered by remembering that when we act.
We are an explosion of life in the image of god.
NOT the image of a man made bomb killing hundreds or thousands of people..
But to be a star willing to give its life up to solitude in the cold darkness of space for the purpose of shining some light upon the darkness of the world.

If it makes bad to feel the good then isn't this the only possible heaven?
Is the idea of heaven/hell what makes this current world a living hell?

posted on Dec, 16 2008 @ 05:04 PM

Originally posted by blahblahblah
1. If Christ resurrected, in other words, He has a body of flesh and bone. How is it that He still lives in Heaven as most think or believe? Heaven is a place (supposedly) where the good Dead People go? Is Christ therefore dead? Hmmm... Did He unzip His body(cocoon pun there) and ascend to heaven as a Spirit?

2. On the opposite note, if Hell is designated for the damnation of those bad people who have died in their sins etc. Then how the hell(no pun intended) did Satan end up there if he has never lived, and never had a body of flesh and bone?

This planet is unconnected to the circuits of consciousness logic understanding to keep a virus from spreading. It is therefore confused and darkened with misunderstandings. The reality is:

Heaven is a phyiscal place. The spiritual path started upon this world is a long and winding road. You can skip to go if you know how to tune your mind. "Jesus" came down, so rather a supernatural being put on the cloak of flesh. This is the robe.

Hell is a false understandings used to scare little children and the retarded. Hell's truest bases is hades. Hades is a hold over place for beings unable to assend to a higher spiritual state. They know and understand why they failed. They are given another chance. Until the ages of judgement upon the realm. At that point all souls are judged. If you are found lacking your are switched off. You are put in the fire that is the second death and you are made as if you never existed.

Book of Truth.

posted on Nov, 11 2009 @ 04:56 AM
I could say that when I die my soul will go where it's been before I born.

But, it's not exists!..

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posted on Nov, 11 2009 @ 05:38 AM

Originally posted by thesinner
I could say that when I die my soul will go where it's been before I born.

But, it's not exists!..

the soul, heaven, hell, rapture, salvation...

only exist in the Virtual Reality Realm that the continual parade of 'believers' have created over the ages.

The force of their visualization, intent has generated an alternate reality
adjacent to this natural worlds' biosphere/thoughtsphere/Akashic records

the sheer gravitas of these believers 'collective memory' has wedged
a space into the human collective conscious, noosphere... thus 'disrupting' the Matrix->>
~until the Christ-ians finally fade into the foggy mists the previous Sumerian, Greek & Roman Pantheon of gods
have been sent to~

posted on Nov, 14 2009 @ 11:03 AM
Hell is deathrow for the bad trash. Not all the bad trash make it to hell since certain go straight inner the other torments.

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