Jesus DID say he was God

Originally posted by thehumbleone

THIS POST IS ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT JESUS SAID HE WAS GOD
May God have mercy on you and take the scales off your eyes.

Yes: Jesus was God

John 1:1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 1:14
And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us.
John 8:58
Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
John 10:30-31
I and my Father are one. Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.
John 10:38-39
The Father is in me, and I in him. Therefore they sought again to take him.
John 14:9
He that hath seen me hath seen the Father.
John 20:28
And Thomas answered and said unto him, My LORD and my God.
Acts 20:28
Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.
Colossians 1:16
For by him [Jesus] were all things created.
Colossians 2:9
For in him [Jesus] dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
1 Timothy 3:16
God was made manifest in the flesh.
Titus 2:13
Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ.
Philippians 2:6
Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God.
Hebrews 1:8
But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
Revelation 1:17
Fear not; I am the first and the last.
Revelation 22:13
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

No, Jesus is not God

Matthew 19:17, Mark 10:18
And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.
Matthew 27:46, Mark 15:34
My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
Mark 16:19
So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.
John 8:40
But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God.
John 14:28
My Father is greater than I.
John 20:17
I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
Acts 17:31
Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.
1 Corinthians 11:3
The head of Christ is God.
1 Corinthians 15:28
And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
Colossians 3:1
Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.
1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.

There is/was no Jesus and there is no God. So stop arguing.

half_minded. Stay on topic or just observe and quit posting. Also take the time to read this post please.

ALL MEMBERS READ - Moving Past Religion 101 and Staying on Topic

Originally posted by dbates
half_minded. Stay on topic or just observe and quit posting. Also take the time to read this post please.

ALL MEMBERS READ - Moving Past Religion 101 and Staying on Topic

alright, i will halt the attacks on the existence of jesus, and go on a presupposition that he existed
but can i dispute the authenticity of the quotation of jesus in the bible?

it was written well after his presupposed existence as flesh

So which one do you believe to be true ersatz.

Is he God or is he not?

This site has an article about what Jesus really said on earth, and a lot about him. (nothing to do with christianity or the bible)

www.xeeatwelve.com...

Originally posted by thehumbleone
So which one do you believe to be true ersatz.

Is he God or is he not?

Osiris - Horus - Mithra - Khrisna - Dionysus - Tammuz - etc ..all predating Jesus and all with very similar stories, were they Gods?

Apart from what clerics say there is no hard evidence for the existence of Jesus the God.
In short I don't believe he was God.

Originally posted by Ersatz

Originally posted by thehumbleone
So which one do you believe to be true ersatz.

Is he God or is he not?

Osiris - Horus - Mithra - Khrisna - Dionysus - Tammuz - etc ..all predating Jesus and all with very similar stories, were they Gods?

Apart from what clerics say there is no hard evidence for the existence of Jesus the God.
In short I don't believe he was God.

I don't get why so many people say Jesus was similar to these pagan myths, he is not.

All you have to do to see that is strip away any "similarities" to the pagan myths.

Now what do we have? we have the teachings of a very Jewish man who has no similarities to these pagan stories.