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US Soldier Killed Herself After Objecting to Interrogation Techniques

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posted on Nov, 2 2006 @ 02:17 PM
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When are people going to realize that these kind of assassinations take place all the time? What about the assassination of several of the soldiers that rescued Jessica Lynch that never even made it onto the news as far as I know?

The thing that really sucks is that the only thing these people did wrong was be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

There are truly evil and souless people at work behind the scenes.

Peace




posted on Nov, 2 2006 @ 02:47 PM
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D4rk Kn1ght : I'm leaning heavily in the direction of B also.

Dr.Love : Lousy world we live in, . . . in times such as these. I find it pathetic
that she may have been killed because she had higher moral values than her
fellow torture-team members. Imagine that, not wanting to torture, maim, or
dishonor her enemies. Geeeze!!!

I forget, is it duty before honor or honor before duty?



( i must become uncivilized, i must become uncivilized, i must . . .)



posted on Nov, 2 2006 @ 02:57 PM
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IS there anything aelse about the condition of the body? Any autopsies or anything like that? I wonder if it was just a quick shot, or if they made her suffer.



posted on Nov, 2 2006 @ 03:00 PM
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Originally posted by Rasobasi420
IS there anything aelse about the condition of the body? Any autopsies or anything like that? I wonder if it was just a quick shot, or if they made her suffer.


Wow Rasobasi, you are asking for an autopsy to find the truth, and in the last part of the sentence reveals you pretty much already concluded as to what happened.


if they made her suffer



posted on Nov, 2 2006 @ 03:17 PM
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A “non-hostile weapons discharge”?

Yes, she was suicided all right.



posted on Nov, 2 2006 @ 03:28 PM
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She was 'offed' for not singing from the right hymn sheet. thats flaming so apparent its not even funny.

I just cannot figure it out though.

Int interrorgation training is fundamental to their jobs... its 10 weeks here in the UK, and it is brutal. Volunteers from other areas of the armed forces volunteer to be the subjects, so for 5 days they partake in an escape and evasion exercise, then get 'caught', and its up to the int people to make them talk.

Its f###### brutal being on the wrong end of it.

If its any way similar to this in the USA, what she was asked to do was some thing even i could not manage to do unless in a life or death situation. We got beat (think it don't happen? guess again!), deprived of sleep, stress positions for hours at a time, mock / fake executions, dunked (freeezing cold water) spun on a chair whilst listening to white noise at near suicide inducing levels... and this was for them to 'get over any problems they had in making a subject give over information'.

(This was pre 1998 training, so current methods / length of training i do not know about)

Now, for this girl to refuse to do some thing, it must of been bad.

To die for it, makes who ever did order it and / or pull the trigger one evil son of a b#tch.



posted on Nov, 3 2006 @ 02:15 PM
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And the plot thickens...


Cover up of soldier who committed suicide rather than torture detainees

According to the Army's investigation into her death, obtained by a KNAU reporter through the Freedom of Information Act, Peterson objected to the interrogation techniques used on prisoners. She refused to participate after only two nights working in the unit known as the cage. Army spokespersons for her unit have refused to describe the interrogation techniques Alyssa objected to. They say all records of those techniques have now been destroyed.


Correction to Alyssa Peterson story

KNAU reported in a broadcast Tuesday and Wednesday that Army specialist Alyssa Peterson of Flagstaff may have committed suicide in Iraq three years ago rather than follow what she believed to be illegal orders. In fact, while the army investigation does state she objected to interrogation techniques used on detainees, it does not conclude that those objections were related to her suicide. KNAU apologizes for this error.

Well the story was about Specialist Peterson commiting suicide, because she opposed to the interrogation techniques, she has witnessed (regarding which all the evidence was destroyed) - but now he army investigation states, that the objections were NOT relalted to her suicide.

Interesting...

And the following part is also very suspecious about this Sad story:


Sounds fishy to me....

In article about this woman stated she was a "devout Mormon".
Devout Mormons do not kill themselves. Also, my understanding is the 'suicide note' was not given to her parents.
Perhaps because they would know her handwriting???


(taken from a comment on the Alternet page)

So - devoted Mormons do not do suicides.

And whats up with her suicide not not being given to her parents?!?

FISHY!

There is definetly a cover-up of somekind going on here.


[edit on 3/11/06 by Souljah]



posted on Nov, 3 2006 @ 02:48 PM
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Well there could be other motives behind this. We cant determine this for sure, Like the suicide explanation, that stems alot of questiongs, but you cant ever tell what the truth is when coming from government authorities.



posted on Nov, 3 2006 @ 03:59 PM
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from the UNITED STATES ARMY field manual # FM34-52

134.11.61.26...



"""examples of physical torture include--
#1 electric shock
#2 infliction of pain through chemicals or bondage
#3 forcing an individual to stand,sit,or kneel, in ABNORMAL positions for
prolonged periods of time
#4 food deprivation
#5 ANY form of beating

examples of mental torture include--
#1 mock executions
#2 abnormal sleep deprivation
#3 chemically induced psychosis

coercion is defined as actions designed to unlawfully induce another to compel an act
AGAINST ONES WILL.
examples of coercion include--

#1 threatening or implying physical or mental torture, to the subject,
his family, or others to whom he owes loyalty
#2intentionally denying medical assistance or care in exchange for information or cooperation
#3 threatening or implying that other rights GUARANTEED by the GWS, GPW, or GC will not be provided unless cooperation is forthcoming

SPECIFIC ACTS COMMITTED BY us ARMY PERSONNEL MAY SUBJECT THEM TO PROSECUTION UNDER ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING PUNITIVE ARTICLES
OF THE UCMJ--

article 78 - accessory after the fact
article 80 - attempts
article 81 - conspiracy
article 93 - cruelty and maltreatment
article 118 - MURDER
article 119 - manslaughter
article 124 - MAIMING """


is the united states military, all the way up to the president GUILTY OF TORTURE???

HELL YES!!!!!



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posted on Nov, 3 2006 @ 05:56 PM
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Along with many other murders in the world done by those in power agianst those in the pipe line, this has all the hall marks of a 'see! Look what we can do if we want?!" operation.


One of you gets killed, the rest suddenly stop objecting to the torutures and beatings given out...after all its better an iraqi dies than them is the mentality of survival i think that is operating here.



posted on Nov, 3 2006 @ 06:55 PM
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I'm sorry it's very hard for me to believe that a U.S soldier be it female or otherwise would kill themselves because they object to the torturing of detainees(that would have probably led many of those detainees to there death). What I smell here is a whistleblower who was permenatlly shut up because she was going to say something about what was really going on there.



posted on Nov, 3 2006 @ 07:45 PM
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This is a sad, sad story.

It is a shame that so many things going on in the military are so questionable.

She had a conscience, unlike the lady who was shown in the pictures at Abughrab with a leash around the naked mans neck.

How many who disagree with protocol are taken out in order to shut their mouths? I wish something could be done to restore her honor. I have true sympathy for her family.

When will the wrongs be made right?



posted on Nov, 3 2006 @ 10:10 PM
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This is a sad story indeed.

Interrogations are brutal, and not because the detainees are beaten horribly(even though they probably are). They're brutal mostly because they're FUBA Repair mentally.

These excersizes are designed this way. She was trained to do a specific job, what could have so horrid that she had not been prepared for may as well be the fault of those who trained her.

I just have a feeling she was at the right place at the right time, just doing the wrong job.

But maybe she really did commit suicide and that really is the story. But we don't have enough information to substantiate any other claims.

Iraq claims another one of our brothers and sisters.


Shattered OUT...



posted on Nov, 4 2006 @ 11:20 AM
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"Elston said that the documents also refer to a suicide note found on her body, which suggested that she found it ironic that suicide prevention training had taught her how to commit suicide. He has now filed another FOIA request for a copy of the actual note."

99% of suicides don't leave notes. Maybe it was murder. She objected to something that came from high up.



posted on Nov, 5 2006 @ 12:52 AM
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I am thinking Vietnam, where some soliders did not play ball with the others while witnessing horrible murders and are murder in turn.

They could also threaten her with denial of transfer and other more terrible threats to make her feel helpless and enslaved to try and psycho her into attempting sucide.

Whatever it was, the high ups thought that the truth would only hurt their agenda and decided to cover it up. Won't be the first and certainly not the last.

Lost of terrible and nasty people out there, nice people don't stand a chance while surrounded in a den of devils.

Thank goodness for the conspirators, or these lies will would never be exposed.
May the dead rest in peace.



posted on Nov, 5 2006 @ 11:07 AM
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Wow that is some brutal stuff you described, I know I wouldn't be able to sit there and watch that being inflicted on someone.

How come we're allowed to use chemicals to inflict pain and psychosis on people, but whenever there is a hint of someone else producing chemical weapons, our governments go crazy and invade their country?



posted on Nov, 6 2006 @ 01:16 AM
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Well, the thing is that much of the interrogation is outsourced to private military contractors. So they're not bound by the US military code of justice.



posted on Nov, 7 2006 @ 08:13 AM
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killed her self? Always the same cover up, i feel they are insulting our intelligence.

She was murdered.

Let's not let them get away with it, expose the truth.

[edit on 7-11-2006 by Syrian Sister]



posted on Nov, 7 2006 @ 08:25 AM
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Originally posted by Dr Love
What about the assassination of several of the soldiers that rescued Jessica Lynch that never even made it onto the news as far as I know?


If it never made it into the news then how do you allegedly know about it??


Originally posted by deessell
“I am going to tell you for a fact. We looked at her body and we saw some things,” Johnson said. “I don’t want to say too much right now, but I am going to say this: I think that the investigation is a criminal investigation, and I think that there is foul play.”


That statement by the father is sad. There could be something to it, but then again there is more of a chance that the father is in denial about his daughter committing suicide.

A friend of mine, who I met when I was 10, committed suicide when she was 20. Her parents refused to believe it was suicide. To this day they say it was murder and that the cops were bad and stupid because they botched the investigation. They are devout Catholics and refuse to admit that suicide was probable. Their daughter had a long unstable mental health and drug usage history.
But yet they refuse to admit to the suicide.


Originally posted by Souljah
.. describing Specialist Peterson... A Genuine, Sincere and Sweet by Nature Person says to to brutalizing, humiliating and torturing incarceration/interrogation apparatus inmates.


If she was that sweet, niave, innocent, etc. etc. then she shouldn't have been in the military to begin with. She also would have no say as far as where she was assigned. When you enter the military you give up any right to that. She knew that going in. So if she was as 'sweet' as you say, and she was stuck in a situation she couldn't get out of, then you have motive for suicide. You have shown it.

edited for fixing quotes


[edit on 11/7/2006 by FlyersFan]



posted on Nov, 10 2006 @ 05:32 AM
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Checking out a website today, I came across a post on Alyssa Peterson.

judicial-inc.biz...

I'm not familiar with that particular site, it do seems bias anti-israeli. Without further explanations it introduces Israeli interrorgaters, and what is new - a fellow interpretter.


Kayla Williams Knew Her

Williams was a fellow interpreter, described how she had been recruited to briefly take part in over-the-line interrogations. Like Peterson, she protested torture techniques of using dogs, nudity, sleep deprivation, and even murder, and was quickly shifted away.

She wrote a book on the 'sexual aspects' of being an interpreter, the annoying Israelis, and the CACI contractors all over you, while the US military cowered to these apes.

She feels Alyssa's death has something to do with the "Cage" interrogation cell.

What do you think?
Who is Kayla Williams?
Found the book she wrote 'Love My Rifle More Than You'

Google comes up with two blogs searching the two names.
I can't find the stories though, lost in the archieves of the blogs.
Maybe some of you can do better than I. Here's the urls.
mainstreambaptist.blogspot.com...
journals.democraticunderground.com...



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