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Originally posted by ape
that is exactly what I thought, this conversation may have gotten heated but it has not become uncivil, this is an intellectual conversation for my part regardless and you are not backing up anything but misinformation which i also disproved ( the website ), I have clarified my position, I am a 23 year old male from the US, I pay my taxes and invest in my country, I have a 401k plan and US savings bonds and a great job, I have made my position very clear. you on the other hand have not and you are being horribly ignorant and condescending which I do not appreciate, so dont play the victim game buddy. I ask once again for the sake of this debate to please state your position and if you pay taxes and invest in this country or just some kid behind a keyboard who doesn't know a damn thing ( you already proved you dont know anything ) and im pretty sure anything u say now will be made up if you even do state a position.
the fair tax brings in more revenue for the government while allowing for more investment and econmic growth, over a period of time with more revenue generated and our industrial base reborn since it would be highly profitable to produce in the US and invest especially with how low interest rates would be, this has been researched and it will happen. In time this will pay off whatever defecit we have in 10 years time, you realise strong economic growth and healthy investment with a strong competitve industrial base maintained will overcome any deficit? nobody said it would just dissapear what was said is through smart fiscal responsibility with spending and also solving medicare and social security ( which fairtax would do ) will be key to getting this country out of debt.
Originally posted by ape
yes i actually do want to correct myself I meant slashed or reduced to a more reasonable level, I will edit my post that is rather insanly optomistic.
fair tax is coming, it has been researched by people alot smarter than you and me and it is picking up momentum.
im not disagreeing with you about the defecit and spending but there is really no options on the table besides fair tax because fair tax is the most reasonable and even better than our current system which is horribly flawwed, think about how much the tax base would increase. what do you propose we do?? by the sound of it you want to raise taxes and hamper progression which is not the answer. what about social security and medicare? does any of this concern you? do you even pay taxes? are you invested in this country or are you invested in your parents who are invested in this country?
[edit on 23-12-2006 by ape]
[edit on 23-12-2006 by ape]
dont lecture me you wont even be man enough to state your position as as US citizen if you even are one
what you dont realise is that there is nothing on the table to solve our current deficit and we are just sinking more and more without doing anything about it, our currency is being underminded by china and out government is outsourcing our industry overseas, fair tax would eliminate all of this and would also reduce federal spending, I suggest you freaking read if you are capable, it's obvious you are not reading my material, it's alof of information for a globalist to take in I know. they have spent over 22 million researching this, everyone is on board and from i have read even the president.