It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.

Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.

Thank you.

 

Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.

 

Do the Dead Talk to Each Other About How They Died?

page: 3
0
<< 1  2   >>

log in

join
share:

posted on Nov, 6 2006 @ 08:27 PM
link   

Originally posted by Paul_Richard
Most dreams are not of a helpful or spiritual nature because most on the Other Side - as with This Side - are not devoted to The Light.


And so are you saying here that most of the time when someone has a nightmare, that is likely caused by an entity with subversive intent? And also, if most are not devoted to The Light, then what in the hell are they devoted to? Hell, i.e. Satan? Wild stuff man, and one of the most unique theories for nightmares and dreams that I have heard- that actually ties in perfectly with the rest of your understanding system of the Light of the God Force.

I don't know bout you Grady, but that fascinates me. Much more interesting than rigor mortis!



In light of this, everyone has had an abundance of communication with "dead people," as I have never known anyone who didn't dream.


There ya go Grady! You've talked to dead people in your sleep! Just don't dream anymore bout rigor mortis, k?




As the physical population increases along with the birthrate, more and more discarnate souls have the opportunity to incarnate.


Ok, well then what happens if the physical bodies exceed the incarnate? Will we have souless humans? I thought we already had plenty of those up in the White House.




posted on Nov, 6 2006 @ 11:31 PM
link   
TA,

I gave you a way above for posting a topic I had never though of.

If there is a heaven-per say, do people talk to others/god/their live relatives/loved ones??

For that matter, are there mulitple heavens??
You know, one for Musliums/Christians/Jews.......
if so, do they talk to each other's groups??



posted on Nov, 7 2006 @ 12:01 AM
link   

Originally posted by mrmonsoon
TA,

I gave you a way above for posting a topic I had never though of.


awe, thanks mr!


If there is a heaven-per say, do people talk to others/god/their live relatives/loved ones??


Well, apparently they do a whole lot more than talk- and when they do talk, it is probably telepathically somehow- hell, makes sense as they would have no physical body to produce a sound with. I suggest you maybe take a bit of time, if you are interested, and read through the posts in this thread. Paul Richard's concepts are pretty far out there, but entirely plausible to me. I'd like to know what you think of them.

It goes beyond the concept of Heaven and Hell. There is a purpose, to ascend higher and higher spiritually into The Light, and be closer to the Godforce. And yes, they do "talk" to their relatives and loved ones. All ya gotta do is start back at the top and read! But there is much more, if you want to know more about Paul's concepts and The Society of Light, just click on his signature links to go to his site. Because frankly, his concepts sound as good or better than any I have heard about what the real purpose is of us being here.


For that matter, are there mulitple heavens??
You know, one for Musliums/Christians/Jews.......
if so, do they talk to each other's groups??


I believe the way he explains it that there are Group Entities, composed of many discarnates, that form to do various things and represent different purposes, religions, and help others reach higher spiritual development levels.

If I extracted myself from what Paul believes, and I had never heard of him, I would probably answer that somewhat differently. As in, I don't believe in a Heaven or Hell, or in good and evil. At least, I'm not sure. There are so many theories about how things work up there, that it can be very confusing. You just gotta go with what makes the most sense to you, if that helps.

Thanks again, and damn, we gotta get that ATS chat back, I remember we had a couple good convo's in there!



posted on Nov, 7 2006 @ 04:02 AM
link   
Hi TrueAmerican,


Originally posted by TrueAmerican
And so are you saying here that most of the time when someone has a nightmare, that is likely caused by an entity with subversive intent?

That is exactly right. A nightmare is a form of an astral attack.

It is usually done not by an individual discarnate, but by a Group Entity which in turn lessens away from The Light from abusing one or more innocents.


Originally posted by TrueAmerican
And also, if most are not devoted to The Light, then what in the hell are they devoted to? Hell, i.e. Satan?

They are devoted to their own selfish interests. A primary example of this is the thrust of most large discarnate communities (large Group Entities) in promoting themselves to be a god or God to those in the flesh.


Originally posted by TrueAmerican
Wild stuff man, and one of the most unique theories for nightmares and dreams that I have heard- that actually ties in perfectly with the rest of your understanding system of the Light of the God Force.

It helps to be consistent.



Originally posted by Paul_Richard
As the physical population increases along with the birthrate, more and more discarnate souls have the opportunity to incarnate.


Originally posted by TrueAmerican
Ok, well then what happens if the physical bodies exceed the incarnate? Will we have souless humans?

The physical bodies on this or any other planet will never exceed the number of discarnates who wish to incarnate at any given time, as there are trillions of discarnates in existence.

Hi mrmonsoon,


Originally posted by mrmonsoon
If there is a heaven-per say, do people talk to others/god/their live relatives/loved ones??
For that matter, are there multiple heavens??
You know, one for Muslims/Christians/Jews.......
if so, do they talk to each other's groups??

Yes, there are multiple heavens and yes, there is telepathic interaction between discarnate communities.

Everyone in the discarnate dimensions is measured by their degree of spiritual vibration or lack thereof in The Light Of The God Force. This is the same light that many near death experiencers have reported seeing at the end of the tunnel. The Light is infinite, nonliving, and governed by Universal Law that cannot be changed one iota.

Cosmic justice is manifested by one's progression toward The Light and also by one's retrogression away from it. Everything is a learning experience. The greater the ascension into The Light, the greater the expansion of consciousness, the brighter the plane, and the more powerful the dimension of energy. When one can create matter at will INDIVIDUALLY through projected thought in The Light, then one has become a Co-Creator. Advanced Co-Creators in The Light will be able to manifest idyllic environments and significantly improve upon the basic human condition.

Discarnate Saints have mapped out three basic sets of dimensions: The Lower Realms where common spirits or subangels dwell, the Mid Realms where discarnates of basic spirituality or angels reside, and The Higher Realms where individualistic, discarnate Saints dwell. There is also the Monad Realms of Light beyond the Higher Realms but that is reserved for Co-Creators and Ascended Beings of Light in general, and right now there is no one on the Other Side who is that spiritually advanced.

When most people leave their bodies, they join a discarnate community or Group Entity. Those of basic spirituality who leave their bodies find that they ascend to the Mid Realms of Spirit, where the religious heavens are located - literally. These are the cities of light that many near death experiencers have visited and talked about.

There are Buddhist heavens, Christian heavens, Bahá'í heavens, New Age heavens, etc. These consist of discarnate communities of angels. Their cities of light are a manifestation of their Group Entity (their combined energies).

For an example of a near death experience which resulted in ascending to a Christian heaven, click here.

Group Entities in the Lower and Mid Realms compete and conflict with each other constantly. Whenever there is an emotional conflict between religions, there are Group Entities battling it out to gain the upper hand in their telepathic influence to further their god-icon and increase their incarnate following.

For example, Muslim Group Entities on the one side, and Jewish and Christian Group Entities on the other, constantly battle it out in the Middle East.

Many in the flesh return to Spirit on a regular basis and Group Entities are formed or replenished daily. The checks and balances for discarnate communities is Universal Law and no one can escape accountability in The Light.

The more spiritually principled and disciplined souls ascend beyond the religious heavens and the communities thereof and reside in the Higher Realms of Spirit.

Each set of dimensions, which contains many sub-levels, correspond to a Dominant Aura Color (DAC).

Brown
Red
Orange

Yellow
Violet

Sky Blue
White

In the discarnate dimensions, as with the physical spectrum, the closest color to white is not yellow or violet, but sky blue. Also take note that the above Dominant Aura Color scale corresponds to the popular Seven Plane paradigm that is found in many metaphysical schools of thought.

Subangels in the most hellish of discarnate dimensions, the first plane, have a DAC of brown. Their severe retrogression away from The Light through unethical actions prevents them from combining into a Group Entity. The next DAC level is red; these can only combine into a GE for minutes at a time. The morally corrupt in the Spirit often combine into a GE and project the persona to someone in the flesh that they are a single, powerful demonic being. This of course is a deception as they are just a bunch of spiritually primitive discarnates who value power for its own sake and who pursue sadistic pleasure. However, that sadistic pleasure is short-lived due to their continued retrogression to being even weaker spiritually, corresponding to a further shrinking of their consciousness in The Light.

There are literally billions of people who have retrogressed away from The Light and into the first plane as a result of abusing innocents centuries ago, and are still there now.

The next level up in the Lower Realms is to have a DAC of orange, which is the most common level and one that is just below a point of basic spirituality. Most humanoids have a DAC of orange.

Yellow and violet are the Dominant Aura Colors of angels and of people in the flesh who embrace basic spirituality. Angels are not advanced or powerful enough to create matter at will in The Light. Like subangels, they often combine their energies into Group Entities in order to manifest telekinesis, healing, a city of light, etc.

The most common Group Entity is one that consists mainly of those with a DAC of yellow.

Large Group Entities often portray themselves as a god or God to those in the flesh. In truth, they are neither.

To sum up, there are blissful planes and religious heavens but it all boils down to one's degree of spiritual vibration within The Light.




new topics

top topics
 
0
<< 1  2   >>

log in

join