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Originally posted by jaamaan
The best opium harvest ever for example ??
The best thing that happened to that country ???
The UN calculates that the opium production increased by 3200% since the invasion of that country.
Have you been to Afghanistan yourself.
So we must both base our opinion on what information we can find about it.
Originally posted by Daedalus3
So you're saying the new govt in power condones opium production?Who is producing the opium?
JALALABAD, Afghanistan (February 15, 2001 8:19 p.m. EST
U.N. drug control officers said the Taliban religious militia has nearly wiped out opium production in Afghanistan -- once the world's largest producer -- since banning poppy cultivation last summer.
A 12-member team from the U.N. Drug Control Program spent two weeks searching most of the nation's largest opium-producing areas and found so few poppies that they do not expect any opium to come out of Afghanistan this year.
"We are not just guessing. We have seen the proof in the fields," said Bernard Frahi, regional director for the U.N. program in Afghanistan and Pakistan. He laid out photographs of vast tracts of land cultivated with wheat alongside pictures of the same fields taken a year earlier -- a sea of blood-red poppies.
Early in the era of the Taliban, the radical Islamic regime that allowed the al-Qaida terror network to flourish in Afghanistan, opium cultivation was permitted. But in July 2000, more than a year before the United States knocked it out of power, the Taliban banned the crop and introduced the death penalty for opium crimes, leading to a sharp decline in production.
Now, the regions outside Kabul are under the control of warlords, many of whom benefit from the trade. Last year's production was nine times higher than during the final year of Taliban rule.
Originally posted by deltaboy
Originally posted by jaamaan
And about killing children i can only quote
"It is my conviction that killing under the cloak of war is nothing but an act of murder."
-- Albert Einstein
[edit on 1-11-2006 by jaamaan]
You are quoting a pacifist. He does not like war, even if its against an enemy. Its ironic that Einstein was the one who prod America to develop the atomic bomb when he view it as a necessity. Unbelievable right?
Originally posted by Souljah
You just SMOKED 80 Teenagers, and Children among them!
Originally posted by omega1
Actually Einstien warned the U.S. in several letters about the potential problems resulting from the technology. He actually urged the U.S. to not develop the technology.
And for the record, murder is murder. Even if you kill a terrorist it is murder.
The question is not whether or not murder was commited, the question is was it justified.
Originally posted by BitRaiser
The Taliban consider opium to be "unclean" and did a lot to destroy it's production.
I'm not going to say the people were better off under those zellots, but try to keep your facts straight. It IS the current (capitalist) government that encourages the farms of opium. Not because they condone it, but because they've set up the ecconomy to place it in demand and have not taken firm enough steps to control either the opium crops or the Warlords that are financing them.
Originally posted by WestPoint23
I believe the US was involved in some capacity. I doubt we actually carried out the actual attack but we could have provided the intelligence and targeting information to the Pakistani government and to their forces. Politically the US attacking Pakistani soil (again) would have been too damaging, so we probably told or "encouraged" them to do it on their own.
Originally posted by factfinder38
Glad to see that they are all dead and I wish they had gotten many more. If some of you feel so strongly with your hate of the U.S. I would suggest that you go and become a target or marter for your cause. We have plenty of bombs for you.
Originally posted by SkyWay
Doesn't surprise me that it was the U.S. who committed that atrocity. Whenever there are reports of such atrocities I always assume that the U.S. is the one that did it until it can be proven that it wasn't.
[edit on 1-11-2006 by SkyWay]
Originally posted by WyrdeOne
Okay, that's definitely enough.
Stop with the personal attacks and discuss the issue.
That goes for both sides.
Originally posted by ThePieMaN
I dunno if any of these people here that condone this kind of killing are Americans but it is truly disgusting when you cheer the death of kids especially 5 year olds and 8 year olds. If you are from the USA, you are not representative of Americans thats for sure. Truly a disgusting attitude.