posted on Oct, 4 2007 @ 02:00 PM
I found this on another website, I believe it can explain quite a lot. (www.prophecy333.blogspot.com/2006/12/illuminati-shuts-down-leo-zagamis.html
According to my knowledge and findings
Freemasonry in Norway is not hidden or difficult to investigate as their records are open to the public and of the current 18.000 or so members today
the top levels were disclosed with names and titles in a national newspaper a few years ago, along with interviews. This was because of journalists
being aware of the national public interest in freemasonry initiated by conspiracy researchers during recent years.
In Norway freemasonry traditionally only allows Christians to become members and there has been a debate going on whether to allow Jews and Muslims
etc. to join. Ironically it is forbidden to discuss religion and politics in the norwegian lodges so the bottom line is that freemasonry in Norway is
a cultural and social matter. Culture is something the norwegians do not take lightly however and traditions are valued - even though McDonald's, MTV
and all that is common there too.
During the second world war the freemasons in Norway were the foremost fighters against the Nazi threat and very involved in the resistance. Just like
in Sweden where one of the prominent bankers (!) Wallenberg was in cohorts with the germans who plotted to assasinate Hitler in the famous bombing
which merely injured Hitler's right arm, prominent norwegians within the church and politics were fighting Quisling et al. tooth and nail and as is
common knowledge they managed to expose traitors in their midst. Norwegians are by definition very nationally aware of their recent history and wary
of being controlled by powers outside their borders. This is part of their identity and psychological make-up. In positions of political influence
there are weird people of course - what I am talking about is the general national attitude.
For Leo Zagami to claim that freemasonry in Norway is satanic and promoting a NWO is wild and unfounded. His accusations become even more absurd when
he himself associates with the New Right - a neo-nazi group which is opposed to Islam being practised in the country. He is in contact with these
people after having converted to Islam himself. What is wrong with this picture?
A few of the individuals Zagami is accusing of wanting to "Nazify" Norway are teachers in Norwegian universities. My former father-in-law is a
retired teacher and friend of these people and just to get some confirmation about their characters I spoke with him last night. According to him they
are aware that Zagami is writing defamatory rubbish about them but as it is obvious to anyone with knowledge about the backgrounds of these people he
is not taken seriously. In effect they feel sorry for him and wishes for him to get some help for his condition. That is how he put it.
My former father-in-law called again later after having read the website and articles by Zagami and mentioned what he saw as a culture shock for
Zagami. The norwegian mentality is vastly different from the Italian and/or Sicilian, and I too can verify that when I came to Sweden in 1990 and
later Norway (lived there 2000-2004) I went trough a similar crisis when trying to acclimatise and understand people in Scandinavia. England and
Scotland is not all that different from Sweden and Norway but there are differences nevertheless. I think this is a factor which should be taken into
consideration as well when trying to understand Zagami. Footnote: my former father-in-law is not a freemason or member of any society apart from the
ornitological society (birds - with wings, not the women) and the Lutheran church. He is Sami but considers himself equally norwegian.
Which brings me on to another important detail. Zagami says the Vatican controls Sweden and Norway and Iceland which is absolutely outrageous. These
are lutheran countries and state and church are separated and there are even discussions in Norway about having a vote on whether to keep or abolish
I am not trying to defend freemasonry at all by this - what I am saying is that Zagami's claims that Scandinavia is already "Nazified" and in the
pocket of the Vatican are the first obvious signs that he is forwarding unsubstanciated claims with no grounds in reality. Catholicism/the Vatican/the
mob mentality/religious orders are not "players" in any way that counts at all in Scandinavia - it is so absurd I have no words for it.
Politically there are characters whom through the membership in NATO and ideologically are in agreement with some of the world leaders with world
domination ideas in line with capitalism and class think - as in every other country. However the mess Zagami is putting forward with religion,
politics, and all sorts of fantastic associations like the esoteric in his own imagination is not even sloppy research - it is outright a wild
fantasy. I am guessing that he is projecting the situation in his own country onto the scandinavian ones and I also think he is quite eager to attract
the attention of authority figures for reasons known only to himself.
Well, these are some of the points which has me certain of him not being a bonafide researcher in any way. I believe he has personal problems and is
projecting his problems onto the world at large, identifying with it to the extreme. There are conspiracies/plans for the future to be unveiled of
course which is what allows him to do this. I am not saying all researchers have mental problems - however I acknowledge that the field attracts
mentally unstable people.
If he has ever been tortured in Norway three times as he claims - why is he eager to stay and happy to have received a prolonged permit? What is wrong
with this picture? He should take his case to the Haag or something if he wants to hold Norway accountable for violations against his human rights.
During the early years of this century a Mullah Krekar has been an often featured character in the press in Norway. My strong hunch is that Zagami is
seeing Islam as oppressed and therefore "the truth" through all the circus around Krekar.
The questions so far then:
* Why does Zagami after his conversion to Islam support the New Right - a neo-nazi group wanting to ban Islam being practised in Norway?
* Why is Zagami not moving from Norway after having been "tortured three times by the Norwegian government", filing a complaint about his human
rights having been violated - instead he is chuffed his permit has been prolonged so he can continue to live and work in that awful and horrible
* Where is the proof that the Vatican is controlling Scandinavia - and how exactly?
There is more but frankly I feel that going through his information is less and less interesting the more I read his ramblings which only seem to
elevate his person primarily - using the grand conspiracies as a tool to do so.
Had he come out under a pseudonym and stayed underground, sticking only to "inside information" not to be found anywhere else on the net nor in any
other book - I would give him the benefit of the doubt. So far - I am personally not impressed.