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42% of Americans no longer believe in God

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posted on Nov, 1 2006 @ 04:48 PM
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thank god some us citizens are coming around and seeing that the beleifs of the past should stay in the past now all we gotta do is get more americans beleiving in evolution




posted on Nov, 1 2006 @ 04:51 PM
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It doesn't matter if there is a big decline in the belief of god. Everyone will at some infinite time embrace your unique entity to the very divine; god. Yes, evolution is a completely acceptable approach over religion, as it is a nessesity to explore.



posted on Nov, 1 2006 @ 04:59 PM
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I really don't think that the number is that high, Americans
(unfortunately) tenjd to be inclined to believe in a deity.
I'd say it's more along the lines of 30%.

I don't mind, as I don't believe in any kind of deity, so the
more people like me makes me happy.



posted on Nov, 1 2006 @ 05:12 PM
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Originally posted by iori_komei
I really don't think that the number is that high, Americans
(unfortunately) tenjd to be inclined to believe in a deity.
I'd say it's more along the lines of 30%.

I don't mind, as I don't believe in any kind of deity, so the
more people like me makes me happy.


I dunno. I tend to believe its this high. I never believed the surveys that claimed 97% of americans believed in God, as my own experiences showed me that close to half the people i knew casually or otherwise were athiests or agnostics.

I think this survey is a sign that people, looking at the state of the world, looking at the state of religon and belief, are no longer happy with what the conventional religons of the world offer as explaination.

I see it as a sign this country might be saved after all.



posted on Nov, 1 2006 @ 05:39 PM
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welcome to the great falling away





"Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;" (2 Thess:2:3)

"Let no man deceive you by any means" A time of deception is coming, says Paul, so take care. But in echoing Christ's warning about apostasy, Paul provides an added insight. The Great lie reveals that the spiritual deception to which Christ referred, though it will of course involve rank unbelievers following false Christs and false prophets, will and has infected the professing church, it will involve a great "falling away," or apostasy: "for that day [of the Lord] shall not come except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin [Antichrist] be revealed, the son of perdition" (2 Thessalonians 2:3).

While a true and Faithful Christian cannot fall away, a false, counterfeit or pseudo Christian can. Fall away from what? From the faith in Christ which he or she has outwardly professed but without inward reality. These apostates, however, will not leave the church and announce themselves as atheists. They will not convert to Buddhism or Hinduism. While there are always some exceptions, it is important to understand that the apostasy doesn't always represent a massive defection to other religions from the true Christianity but a turning away from the truth within the professing church.

Christ warns us in Matthew 24 not to be deceived by false Christs and false prophets and lying signs and wonders. Paul repeats the warning, but with an added dimension: "to beware of being deceived into thinking that the apostasy won't come." It will. It must. Surely Paul would not speak in this manner unless in the last days the popular view would be to reject the idea of apostasy within the church. The grave danger will be that of following false prophets who, with their signs and wonders, will seem to back up their false teaching that revival, not apostasy, is the order of the day. Paul therefore says, "Don't let anyone deceive you with sweet talk about revival: the apostasy must come or the day of the Lord cannot begin."

www3.telus.net...




posted on Nov, 1 2006 @ 11:26 PM
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I think we can all agree that morals in the world are on a decline. Turn on your TV's and have yourself a look at what is able to pass on prime-time as children watch and learn while middle class mom, by herself since more than half of the households are single parent, is at her second job just to be able to get by. What's up with all these school shootings that I never ever saw or heard about hwen I was younger? Let's face it, comparing to 10, 15, 20 years ago morals are on a HUGE decline as is belief in God. Good news is that the Bible predicted this would happen a long time ago.

Yea, yea, yea a 2000 year old book that should stay in the past. Think about it!!!! We are talking transcendent timeless truth. Everything that went on 2000 years ago is still universal to what goes on today, i.e. we still go through the full spectrum of the same emotions, the same problems, rich, poor, young, old, birth, death, love, hate, athiest vs monothiest, its all timeless no matter how much more advanced we are. The Bible never talked about flat earth, stationary earth, or anything else that has been proven otherwise, so a comparison of the Bible to disproven scientific theories is out of context.

The Bible was written by Enlightened individuals who had direct communication with God in one form or another and were instructed to write what they wrote. Again transcendent divine truth is beyond time, i.e. 2000 years is insignificant to truth. If something is truth, it doesnt matter how old it is.

What is there to look forward to in the future? More technology? Longer life-span? Better Health? Robots? Flying Cars? Bigger weaponry? So what!!!!! We still have to deal with death, corruption(both politically and in humanity), hate, lust, greed, envy, jealousy, and all the other universal factors that are the cause of so much crap in this world including those committed by so called "religious" people.

Just because you can't see air, doesn't mean it does not exist. Google the "Allegory of The Cave" for a nice athiest bashing theory!!!!!!

I'd rather bet my chips on God then science, man, the future, or nothing. The odds are in favor of God and there is a better risk vs. reward factor. As some-one posted earlier, if not God then what? Yourself? Money? A Family? Power? Technology? All of this fades away as will you also. Then what? Energy doesn't cease to exist, it simply transfers depending on the physics at play.

The majority of the greatest scientific minds of all history in the entire world believed that there is some sort of Benevolent being. Doesn't that say something? What about near-death experiences? What about places that are haunted by spirits of the dead that can be measured scientificaaly using certain instruments?

There is more solid argumentation for the existence of God then against. There is also a state of being called enlightenment, in which you no longer question whether or not God exists, but now know it to be an undenying truth.

The majority of people that I know personally that do not believe in God all happen to have one thing in common. A big ego.



posted on Nov, 1 2006 @ 11:39 PM
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42%??? Heck! I thought that with Bush around, more than 90% would have turned to God for salvation and deliverance!!



posted on Nov, 2 2006 @ 12:43 AM
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I've been in this delima for about a year now. I dont like the thought of someone else being in control of things, especially when it comes to me and my life. But it would be awesome to know someone was there at the same time. And that there is a nice afterlife waiting after my death. Its a tough delima, because religion is faith based(which I dont have a lot of) and you cant scientifically proove that there is or isnt a god. These arguments always turn into some debate between believers and non believers, so go ahead and quite while yall are ahead.



posted on Nov, 2 2006 @ 12:47 AM
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I thought God was one of the popel creatures from the late 80s.

no?



posted on Nov, 2 2006 @ 09:52 AM
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Some of you seem to think that this is something that should be laughed about.. Have you looked at the world secularist have created for you lately? Real funny, huh? :shk:

Now, I have never been, nor will I ever be, a proponent of organized religion. I think people should serach for the truth on his'her own rather than having a priest or pastor tell you what you should or shouldn't believe, However, with that being said, it's important that people believe in some meaning of life.

What meaning can be gained from a belief in blind evolution? From what I have gathered, not much..
I mean, according to evoultionists, we live, we die, that's it. Whoopdy freakin doo. I am not saying that the theory of evolution is wrong... However, it certainly doesn't disprove creationism it only points out that we have changed from the original creatures God created us as into what we are today.

Some will ask, "What about being created in God's image"? What about it? Yes, we were spiritually created in God's image, not physically, at least in my opinion.

I think this poll is a sad testament to how far humanity has fallen.



posted on Nov, 2 2006 @ 11:29 AM
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But what is the reason for the decline in trust in God and loyalty to same?

NOT getting what WE want.

What did the stones sing?
'You can't always get what you want!'

And then it says a bit later:
'You get what you need.'

When you put God in a box and the box never arrives, then you say you think boxes are just cardboard BS.

The boxes are BS! God is TRUE!
God is BIGGER than a breadbox, believe you me.

And also - christianity's prosperity gospel seems to be poisonous to spread amongst those who have not yet experienced the fuller's fire - the threshing floor - the wilderness of Sin.

Testing is mandatory - the true definition of the Faith of Christ is CONSTANCY.

Do you stand true beside your Man? We must be faithful and we must be true. We must fear nothing and only believe that God has us all in His all encompassing hands.

Even the worst evil in this world - to know it was a direct result of God's intentions and was meant for the eventual salvation of us all - then my heart rests easy. Even God's evil is good and man's good is always evil.



posted on Nov, 2 2006 @ 04:46 PM
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And how do you think this will effect America in the future?


I don't think the future of America has much to do with God. I think it has to do with the decisions the living beings on it make today.

Secondly, I'm not sure if the majority of people are grasping the weaknesses in their own beliefs. Any being possessing a consciousness to "Nth" degree greater than your own would be indiscernible from "God." It's really that simple. If you would have existed 1000 years ago, and I showed up to your mud hut with a 60" plasma television, it would have been beyond your comprehension. Your feebile mind would declare me a messenger of God. There's no arguing that point it's just a truth. If you don't like the way it makes you "feel" then I'm sorry. I'm not trying to target anyone's religious views here... simply pointing to an undeniable truth that any rational human being would accept.

Now let's do the banana dance!

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posted on Nov, 2 2006 @ 05:10 PM
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No offense, but do we (humans) actually have proof that Jesus lived here on Earth??????? I talked to my parents about this, well, argued, but whatever, and they both have different views, I am on my dad's side but my mom has some pretty good arguments on it but I can always counter it. Anyways one thing I have been wanting to know (very serious about this) How did Noah get 2 of every animal when we havn't even discovered all the animals on earth? And how did he build an arc, alone, big enough to withstand and hold more than , well many, animals. A lot of things in the Bible are very hard to believe, including uhhhh everything. That is why I am happy to know that less people belive in God now.

When the Greeks and Romans believed in all their Gods, they were dead serious about them, but now that we know what causes lightning and so forth, we kind of find it silly that they believed in that. But did you ever think that in 2000 years (If Humanity is still going strong) people are going to laugh at us for believing in this 'God'?????

Another view (this one comes from my dad, I think it is pretty far fetched) Tomorow there is a holocaust that kills everybody on Earth EXCEPT for a young man and woman ( lets call them uhhhh Adam and hmmmm....Eve) and at thier age, they don't know much about the world and everything. But they raise a family and their children have children, and so forth. They have to go through technological evolution ALL OVER again. They don't have one working TV, no restaurants, no nothing! Anyways, without any schools and education and such, we kind of go back to the primitive era and after a while, these explorers find a 'Spider-Man' comic book. Thay look at it , analyze it, and since they don't know how to read, they re-write it their way and they are amazed by it. Spider-Man becomes their new GOD! Anyways this a very far fetched, Makes you think a little...

All this to say, I don't belive in God and I won't untill I see him, or someone gives me credible proof of him. I have never believed in him and I have a very good life. And if I can live without God, I am sure a couple more people can.


-Jimmy-



posted on Nov, 2 2006 @ 05:19 PM
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Dominicus your post gave me shivvers.
Very true. And I totally agree.
How can you look at all the wonderful things in the world and not
come to the conclusion that a greater power must've created such beauty?
Or just look at something simple. Like the hands and fingers that are typing your
posts. You dont think about the millions cells that are allowing you to do that
unconsciously. Only someone or something with incredible intelligence that is
so more advanced than humans could have created such a technological feat.
God is great but religion has a lot to answer for IMO.



posted on Nov, 2 2006 @ 05:33 PM
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Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth
Some of you seem to think that this is something that should be laughed about.. Have you looked at the world secularist have created for you lately? Real funny, huh? :shk:

Now, I have never been, nor will I ever be, a proponent of organized religion. I think people should serach for the truth on his'her own rather than having a priest or pastor tell you what you should or shouldn't believe, However, with that being said, it's important that people believe in some meaning of life.

What meaning can be gained from a belief in blind evolution? From what I have gathered, not much..
I mean, according to evoultionists, we live, we die, that's it. Whoopdy freakin doo. I am not saying that the theory of evolution is wrong... However, it certainly doesn't disprove creationism it only points out that we have changed from the original creatures God created us as into what we are today.

Some will ask, "What about being created in God's image"? What about it? Yes, we were spiritually created in God's image, not physically, at least in my opinion.

I think this poll is a sad testament to how far humanity has fallen.

religious ppl still lead us. gwbush christian, osama bin laden muslim.

the world now is better, even morally, than 50 years ago (segregation, sexism which the bible promotes, etc). much more so than 200, 500 yrs ago.

believe in creationism because evolution doesnt dispove it? what if i told you there was a flying spaghetti monster, would you believe that? you cant disprove it.



posted on Nov, 2 2006 @ 05:47 PM
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Originally posted by RedDragon
the world now is better, even morally, than 50 years ago (segregation, sexism which the bible promotes, etc).


More moral than we were 50 years ago!!!
That is beyond hilarious. Oh,my God...
What planet are you living in? The everything is just dandy planet? "Better morally"


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posted on Nov, 2 2006 @ 05:51 PM
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Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth

Originally posted by RedDragon
the world now is better, even morally, than 50 years ago (segregation, sexism which the bible promotes, etc).


More moral than we were 50 years ago!!!
That is beyond hilarious. Oh,my God...
What planet are you living in? The everything is just dandy planet? "Better morally"


[edit on 2-11-2006 by SpeakerofTruth]

Well, bring up some evidence..

Consider the Middle East. It's more religious now that it was 50 years ago. And it's also more of a # hole.

Oh, and ignore the rest of my post about the flying spaghetti monster. Brilliant.



posted on Nov, 2 2006 @ 06:12 PM
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Oh, and ignore the rest of my post about the flying spaghetti monster. Brilliant


You damn betcha!! It was childish.Why respond to it? Furthermore, what was there to respond to?

Oh, believe me, I am no fan of the organized faiths of Christianity or Islam. I think that has been quite apparent in most of my posts. I do have my own personal beliefs and I do believe in a God and Jesus Christ.

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posted on Nov, 2 2006 @ 07:55 PM
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Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth

Oh, and ignore the rest of my post about the flying spaghetti monster. Brilliant


You damn betcha!! It was childish.Why respond to it? Furthermore, what was there to respond to?

Oh, believe me, I am no fan of the organized faiths of Christianity or Islam. I think that has been quite apparent in most of my posts. I do have my own personal beliefs and I do believe in a God and Jesus Christ.

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Yeah, there is really nothing to reply with to it.. because it's 100% true and unarguable. The only thing to do is attack the character of the idea and not the idea, just call it "childish" or "heretic" and not consider it.



posted on Nov, 2 2006 @ 10:59 PM
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58% of Americans are absolutely certain that something that is false is true. That is scary.



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