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reply posted on 16-1-2009 @ 10:20 AM by groingrinder

Originally posted by merka
It seems kind of odd. Why eat skinny children when there are juicy fat adults everywhere in America. You could cut kidnappings by 50% at the very least and STILL get more nutrients!!!

The very same reason we prefer to eat juvenile cows, fish, and chickens. Plus Aliens do not like the chemicals that we accumulate from drug use, pharmaceuticals, coffee, smoking and other sources.

reply posted on 16-1-2009 @ 05:21 PM by debris765nju

Bureau of Justice Statistics
www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/
The government does keep records of every conceivable type, you just know where they are kept. If you need evidence this is the accepted place to find it. Best to scan the entire index as the titles are "unusual".

reply posted on 17-1-2009 @ 07:37 AM by kshaund

Originally posted by Kandinsky

You can write to PANDORA'S BOX, 2663 Valleydale Road, Suite 126, Birmingham, Alabama 35224. "Pandora's Box - Volume One" is $50 [$80 Overseas], and "Pandora's Box - Volume Two" is $35 [$65 Overseas]. The book called "The Cosmic Conflict" is $40 [$75 Overseas]. These are big books, with lots of information.

What are the odds that there's a single authentic photograph or blueprint of these underground bases? How many photographs of all these Draconians and Greys? $50 for John said... and Phil said...and this insider said... It's all snakeoil, holy relics and BS. They should get their asses on ATS and post the conclusive proof and set Mankind free...So why don't they?

Have YOU seen the book you're talking about??? I would hope so, because if you are saying these things without having seen it, then the response is totally done in 'ignorance' which is what we are supposed to be denying here - unfortunately the only way to deny ignorance is to invest a TON of TIME into investigating all these things. Benefiting from everyone else's 'Tons of Time' invested result in us being able to sit down and read a book of someone else's life work. Do this a hundred times and you become a lot 'less ignorant'. (I do not equate ignorant with stupid - two entirely different things - ignorant only means you don't know any better - stupid means you do know better and do it anyway).

And has anyone looked at the youtube I posted a while back? I'm in my mid-fifties now and ten or so years back I spent a lot of field time doing research in Arizona, Utah and Colorado, specifically the Denver Airport just after it was built and functioning.

The Pandora's Box I knew of that was available then was INDEED full of blueprints and plans and articles. It is NOT anyone's opinion, it is a compilation of documentation and statements.

So please, if anyone is inclined to debate the 200,000 number or suggest Pandora's Box spoken of here is not worth reading before reading it, at least start your post with a declaimer "Speaking from a state of Ignorance and proud of it". Speculation costs everyone too much time.

I say the numbers of missing people is closer to a million every year, not 200,000 and definitely most are being taken away by someone.

Please LISTEN to the video I provided, its only a few minutes long and THEN post your thoughts - Why doesn't the government do something???

They are - they're letting it all happen on purpose because they're part of the plot.

reply posted on 17-1-2009 @ 08:08 AM by Kandinsky

reply to post by kshaund

"Speaking from a state of Ignorance and proud of it"

KShaund, I'm sure you are a decent and thoughtful gentleman. The information you have read is acceptable by your standards. Your conclusions are, more than likely, well thought out and based on more than a youtube video. If you wish to see the world as a harrowingly dark place populated by evil aliens and where hundreds of thousands of children are worked to death and then eaten; it's your right as a human being. I applaud your creativity.

My view of the world involves the same lying politicians and children die unnecessarily too. In my world, they die from disease and starvation because the lying politicians have different priorities. Look at the Middle East right now. I don't believe there are alien bases on Earth. I've no evidence to encourage that idea. Due to not believing there are alien bases, I don't believe there are aliens eating children. Having read a great many conspiracy theories, I'm dissuaded from believing them. I find the authors and their 'inside sources' wholly unconvincing.

I usually avoid the Conspiracy area of ATS. People are already convinced and seek to support each others world view. I also find the ideas quite disturbing and occasionaly repellent. That's my personal opinion and nothing more. The Thread title was naturally eye catching. It's hard to read such a bold statement and not comment on it's accuracy. In my opinion it's almost completely inaccurate.

I'm not a 'sheeple' and I'm not deluded. I'm an intelligent man and old enough to draw my own conclusions based on evidence. My conclusion on aliens eating 200, 000 children remains as previously stated. I think it's ridiculous.

PS. I've just watched the video link you posted. The gentleman in the video is mistaking a missing person report for a missing person. There's a huge difference. People are reported missing a lot. In my job, I work with a couple of kids that have been reported as missing over a hundred times (collectively) last year. The US population isn't expanding at a million a year. If the video gentleman was correct, the US population would be decreasing since 1981 to maintain the 859,000 annual "Poof! Gone. Missing" figure. Furthermore, each and every one of us would know of someone that had disappeared. He can shout "Fact" but in reality is using 'false facts' to lead an argument based on very shaky reasoning.

Edited for postscript to avoid hogging the thread.

[edit on 17-1-2009 by Kandinsky]

reply posted on 17-1-2009 @ 10:44 AM by kshaund

reply to post by Kandinsky

Thanks for your reply - and for at least watching the video

I've just come to the opposite conclusion from my decades of research, in that there are alien bases everywhere and likely hundreds of thousands missing each year (I would) attribute to that alone as well as the pornography rings, satanism, etc.

It is my understanding that these missing people remain missing in the stats, otherwise they wouldn't be counted in the end.

The government doesn't do anything, including fund programs to help because they're the biggest part of the problem. We have been sold in many ways behind our backs, our faces, and even our existances.

We sheeples (myself included) are just trying to get the best idea we can from the scant evidence and information around to find out what hole we're being shoved down this time - some of us are just looking around as we go down - but down we are going.... we have been lied to for millenea - the missing children is but a sample of a most insidious plan.

I never felt comfortable, as much as I wanted to, with the phrase "and the meek shall inherit the earth" - because in my experience the meek always get devoured by the unscrupulous, uncaring, greedy, etc. ones - why would it be different anywhere else?

I can't say I have actually witnessed a transport ship, but I can say I could see the Mexican border from Arizona on a field trip and smelled the air change with a diesel type odor (but was not diesel or anything familiar), saw the moon change "hue" to such an extent the entire color changed and was told by our guide who I will not name that a cloaked ship was passing overhead likely with a cargo load of people - this was about a dozen or so years ago. The feeling was incredibly creepy and we left the area immediately which was a fair hike in and out. So I am not just going on what other people and some statistics say, I am also adding it to my personal experiences albeit unprovable. Doesn't matter, really, because in the end there's SO MANY other problems, this one is not even in the top twenty.

reply posted on 17-1-2009 @ 10:54 AM by Truther

Originally posted by merka
It seems kind of odd. Why eat skinny children when there are juicy fat adults everywhere in America. You could cut kidnappings by 50% at the very least and STILL get more nutrients!!!

They prefer children because, there bodys arnt full of toxins and undesirable chemicals.. Think about how much the average adult consumes, when eating or drinking alcohol or even smoking, un healthy food etc.

[edit on 22/06/2008 by Truther]

reply posted on 17-1-2009 @ 10:56 AM by Truther

Originally posted by groingrinder

Originally posted by merka
It seems kind of odd. Why eat skinny children when there are juicy fat adults everywhere in America. You could cut kidnappings by 50% at the very least and STILL get more nutrients!!!

The very same reason we prefer to eat juvenile cows, fish, and chickens. Plus Aliens do not like the chemicals that we accumulate from drug use, pharmaceuticals, coffee, smoking and other sources.

SNAP! groingrinder, only seen your post now, glad to see im not on my own.

reply posted on 17-1-2009 @ 11:50 AM by Anonymous ATS

reply posted on 17-1-2009 @ 01:20 PM by Kandinsky

reply to post by kshaund

I'm glad you read my post in the spirit it was intended

I do share some of your beliefs that people are exploited by Governments and corporations. The MSM sells ideologies that reflect the political beliefs of the owners and the company that they keep. Social mobility exists but not to the extent that all people have an equal opportunity to succeed in this life. I don't trust Governments, but I understand the need for their existence. I don't like the term 'sheeple', it's used as an arrogant insult to others. In your context, you imply you have no control. I believe we do have some control. I prefer the idea that society is wolves, sheepdogs and sheep explanation. Be a sheepdog KShaund.

About the missing persons...of nearly a million that are reported missing annually, only 105, 000 remain missing in the year they were reported. The rest turn up or make contact with family or authorities. That information is here. It's reasonable to think that others return after a longer period.

That still leaves a large number unaccounted so I looked for homeless statistics. Given the nature of homelessness, stats are hard to find.

As many as 3.5 million people experience homelessness in a given year (1% of the entire U.S. population or 10% of its poor), and about 842,000 people in any given week.[10] Most were homeless temporarily. The chronically homeless population (those with repeated episodes or who have been homeless for long periods) fell from 175,914 in 2005 to 123,833 in 2007.[11]

Source

On the evidence, it at least demonstrates that the figures put forward for US citizens being abducted and/or eaten by aliens are vastly overestimated.

The idea of bases beneath cities like New York weakens if you look into geology and biology. Where would the access points for the bases be? Underground bases require ventilation. Where are the inlets and outlets? What about heat radiation? Sewage? Vitamin D production requires sunlight etc etc.

In bunkers inhabited for prolonged periods, large amounts of ventilationVentilation (architecture) Ventilation is movement of air, typically between an indoor space and the outside.... or air conditioningAir conditioning [Image:Single-room AC unit-internal.jpg|thumb|right|The internal section of the same unit.... must be provided in order to prevent ill effects of heat. In bunkers designed for war-time use, manually-operated ventilators must be provided because supplies of electricity or gas are unreliable.

Underground bunkers

If an idea is appealing and begins to make sense; check it. Look to disprove it. Look for evidence that challenges that idea. If none is found, the idea can stand up for itself. Too many aspects of this (alien bases/ slave children) idea are open to challenge for it to stand up for itself. The facts are false facts. My opinion is that human nature and political expediency can account for most of the wrongs in this world. Blaming aliens shifts the blame from where it belongs.

reply posted on 17-1-2009 @ 01:27 PM by WyrdeOne

According to the National Center for Missing and Exploited children, 2000 kids are reported missing every day.

The only problem with your calculations is that more than 90% of them are found within hours, and all but a handful are found one or two days later, usually staying with family.

Then there are the runaways who go to the big city and wind up homeless. They haven't been eaten by aliens, they're just living hand to mouth on Astor in NY or Skid Row in LA.

People go missing the same way my car keys go missing. It's like - Oh no, my car keys are missing! Wait, there they are, under the stack of magazines...

reply posted on 17-1-2009 @ 01:38 PM by kshaund

reply to post by Kandinsky

I like sheepdogs -

I checked the source (Kyle's webpage) - but they don't cite their sources for their stats, and they are from 2007 which means any stats they have are older than that just from the 'time delay' factor. All the myriad of adhoc websites listed only helps to validate (in my view) my point in that there's no cohesive, well funded centralized and funded childfind - it's all people powered trying their best to keep up, hence the lack of real information.

As well, people go missing that don't make the statistics just like there are always a 'percentage' of unreported crimes and rapes, so whatever stats are available, they are always modest (I have a criminology degree).

I haven't honestly spent the hours (probably more like weeks) it would take to verify and validate a lot of stuff and rely on others who have done this already (like the Red Cross, etc.).

It would be interesting to know the real numbers - I do suspect they are increasing beyond the normal that goes with increases in population - and many are gone without a trace or clue ever, especially children.

Perhaps there's others around here who can better provide numbers, don't know - but yeah, it's gross no matter which way you look at it to have any child disappear - I cannot even pretend to comprehend the fear they must be feeling (and feeding) their captors, whoever they are

reply posted on 17-1-2009 @ 02:21 PM by cluckerspud

Originally posted by merka
It seems kind of odd. Why eat skinny children when there are juicy fat adults everywhere in America. You could cut kidnappings by 50% at the very least and STILL get more nutrients!!!

All joking aside, merka makes a great point.
Doesn't make sense. Also, with our cloning technology
added to any ET cloning techniques would make
kidnapping unnecessary.

Clone em'. Then..... Set it and forget it.

reply posted on 22-1-2009 @ 07:57 PM by leomurray

perhaps its people just wearing alien masks

reply posted on 5-2-2009 @ 01:38 AM by The Truth Project

Originally posted by realanswers
Alex Christopher, the author of Pandora's Box, has a lot of interesting information in regards to the secret operations of the government, aliens, and the plans of the "New World Order".
Here is an interview with him which includes information about the missing children:

search.think-aboutit.com...

Here are some national reports of missing kids:

www.missingkids.com/en_US/documents/nismart2_overview.pdf

www.sitnews.us...

www.findmissingkids.com...

This is an epidemic!

They like children because they are not contaminated with toxins like adults plus body chemistry changes after puberty!

My vlog commenting on this

www.youtube.com...

[edit on 5-2-2009 by The Truth Project]

reply posted on 5-2-2009 @ 02:25 AM by LadyGreenEyes

Originally posted by stumason
200,000 kids missing each year?

Not likely.

I read half way down the first link and, to be frank, started to get somewhat jaded by all the fantastical ideas the two guys where talking about. I've heard them all before, mind you, but I am far from sold.

200,000 kids.....

Someone would notice....

From checking the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, and looking at the numbers, they stated that for 1999, about 750,000 children and youth went missing, but they also state that 99% of people reported missing (and mostly that IS children and youth) are found, that leaves around 7,500 children and youth unaccounted for. Nowhere near 200,000, for certain.

reply posted on 5-2-2009 @ 02:56 AM by Darky6K

reply to post by nowthenlookhere

As someone who is studying criminal justice, I can tell you more than 200,000 kids disappear each year. Not only this, but not every case is in the newspapers; too many

reply posted on 5-2-2009 @ 03:12 AM by special

until evidence to prove otherwise....I cannot comprehend this idea.....I don't think aliens would eat children! Yeah they may go missing each year,but there is more then likely a logical explaination...and I am open minded...but find this a little far fetched....

If I see the proof then I will believe in this one...until otherwise.....sorry folks....

reply posted on 5-2-2009 @ 07:58 AM by kshaund

reply to post by The Truth Project

Thanks for the links !
I think the real point is no one knows how many are really gone - but we can assume it's way more than we know about... Aliens underground eating children? Why not? Because it's tooooo outrageous? Yes, it absolutely is... but that doesn't mean it's automatically false.

I can't prove one way or the other - but I know there are very strange things going on and Pandora's Box is a very good book if you can still get it - what's going on 'just' under the surface (literally and metaphorically) of all the politicians on this planet should be pretty self-evident by now, especially with Bohemian Grove coming to light.

Why kidnap instead of clone? Faster, cheaper, more 'fun' I would guess....

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