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Originally posted by StellarX
This Cumulus clouds are quite low and since the contrails seem to be threading past them should be considered odd already even if it may be explained by the airplanes not being passenger aircraft or having taken off recently as you indicated. What is also interesting is the fact that there are 'contrails' at all at this altitude as they are not supposed to form this low naturally as far as far as my non-expert opinion is concerned.
Originally posted by Rapture404
Interesting.... but i'm not convinced by chemtrails at all.
I saw these being formed by aircraft...and they are just regular contrails.
Don't wanna go off topic, but that film about contrails loses me right at the start... it reckons that contrails only last for a few minutes...
One unique type of cloud is manmade. Contrails occur when exhaust from jet engines condenses. A narrow line of moisture makes up the contrail. Winds eventually dissipate it; in some instances conditions permit the contrail to survive for many minutes (their straight lines do distort). Contrails are believed to affect weather by raising both short and long-term temperatures (one estimate is for about a third of a degree per decade). Here is a MODIS image taken over the southeast U.S. on January 29, 2004 showing a large number of contrails (at times more than 2000 planes are over the North American continent at any one time):
Like i said, i live near an airport and we get a lot of air traffic here. (not just taking off and landing, but we appear to be somekind of hot spot for air-traffic. We can always see at least 5 or 6 aircraft in the air at any one time here at varying distances and altitudes)
Some contrails hang around for hours and hours...they stretch out...fatten up and look like long skinny clouds.
I think the whole chemtrail thing is paranoia. Happy to be proved otherwise, but there is no proof that i have seen.
Originally posted by Willard856
Rapture posted asking about contrails that he saw, and whether anyone had any ideas about what aircraft might have made them. It is posted in the aircraft projects forum, and never mentioned chemtrails.
He posted his opinion that he doesn't want this thread to turn into a chemtrail discussion unless someone had conclusive proof that they are chemtrails.
Why wouldn't Rapture get help just because he doesn't believe in chemtrails?
Sounds a little childish to me. He quite nicely told you his point of view about chemtrails (others would have been a bit blunter),
and as the original poster that should be respected. If you don't like it, head back to the multiple chemtrail threads.
Originally posted by StellarX
And i consider this type of moderator 'ambushes' ( 'a little childish'; whatever that means it's clearly ok to call people that) in very much the same light?
If you ever have time feel free to come moderate the weapons forum; we can certainly use such prompt interventions on a forum that is perpetually reeling out of control... And honestly i am only in small part sarcastic; that place needs it.
Any ideas who or what they were? It's odd cos we're right on the final approach flightpath to London-Luton, and these planes were going at about the same height as the approaching planes but in completely the wrong direction.
Originally posted by masqua
Two quick points...
1. As far as I can see there has been no moderator intervention in this thread until now (me)
2. If you feel the Weapons forum needs more moderation, please use the 'complaints button' and let the staff know privately.
Living in Canada, there is nothing I can contribute, other than to say that the 'chemtrails' issue obviously came from the link within the second post which StellarX provided.
So, let's stay on topic and off chemtrails.
And clearly i might need to take a break from ATS considering how i managed to make Willard into a moderator.
i am just working on the assumption that this was the original intent as it's not changing despite complaints.