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Rich Israelis Building Nuke Bunkers

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posted on Oct, 30 2006 @ 06:50 AM
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First of all - Israel is the ONLY country in Middle East who has Nuclear Weapons (which they made ILLEGALLY I might add), so what's the problem-o? Are they afraid of themselves or something? Iran is like a long way from a Nuclear Bomb, and if they got one, you think they would be soooo dumb that the first thing they would do is to throw it on Israel and sign their death sentance?

Israel, as I said before, has a completly ILLEGAL nuclear programme, which can be compared to North Korea or Iran;


Israel's nuclear programme

While Israel has never admitted to having nuclear weapons, few international experts question the Jewish state's presence on the world's list of nuclear powers.

Unlike Iran and North Korea - two countries whose alleged nuclear ambitions have recently come to the fore - Israel has never signed the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, designed to prevent the global spread of nuclear weapons.

As a result, it is not subject to inspections and the threat of sanctions by the United Nations nuclear watchdog, the International Atomic Energy Agency.

Were is the Outrage of International Community?

Where are the nuclear watchdog inspectors?

Where are the Sanctions?

Well - that is perhaps a story for another thread.

As far as the bunkers are concerned - the Paranoia is creating even more profit.

Good for Business these days.

And ofcourse, the Rich Israeli's can afford to buy their own Patriot missile defense battery for that matter.

Anyway - this is my message to Israel and to all Nuclear Powers;

GET RID OF THOSE NUKES, BEFORE THEY GET RID OF ALL OF US!

Peace.

[edit on 30/10/06 by Souljah]




posted on Oct, 30 2006 @ 06:53 AM
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Originally posted by NumberCruncher
Denial is a dangerous thing, just like cancer it needs treatment before its too late.


I think you need to take some of your own advice. Having said that let the Israeli's pay $60,000 pound for a bunker, i cannot believe these S$#% makes news.

[edit on 30-10-2006 by helium3]



posted on Oct, 30 2006 @ 06:56 AM
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Originally posted by NumberCruncher

That would be because you cant strap a nuke bunker to yourself whilst walking down the street for protection now can you.


You can stay in the closet then, there's no traffic in there.

Speak for yourself and embrace your fears and live in a lead box, tell me how it turns out.

[edit on 30-10-2006 by Regenmacher]



posted on Oct, 30 2006 @ 07:24 AM
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Originally posted by Regenmacher

Originally posted by NumberCruncher

That would be because you cant strap a nuke bunker to yourself whilst walking down the street for protection now can you.


You can stay in the closet then, there's no traffic in there.

Embrace you fears and live in a lead box, tell me how it turns out.



I dont understand the problem here, Israelis live in the most volitile region in the World, theres a pretty good chance they will receive forwarning of a Nuclear strike, or any Bombing strike for that matter !!

Theres nothing to scratch you head about, if you lived in that region and could afford it you would be mad to not install a Bomb Shelter or Nuke bunker.



posted on Oct, 30 2006 @ 07:44 AM
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I guess when you are out to convince the wolrd that something exists when it really doesn't, the best place to start would be in your own backyard. I guess its working for them. One thing I don't understand is if these people have all this money, why are we still giving them almost 9 billion a year in aid?



posted on Oct, 30 2006 @ 08:12 AM
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Originally posted by NumberCruncher
I dont understand the problem here, Israelis live in the most volitile region in the World, theres a pretty good chance they will receive forwarning of a Nuclear strike, or any Bombing strike for that matter !!


Volatility based on what? Not mortality:

Israel 6.18 deaths per 1000
United States 8.25 deaths per 1000

First off, I don't buy into the idea Iran is bent on suicide, just like that load of propaganda about the Russians were going to nuke the US in the 50-60's.

I would be mad to sell out my liberty to a fear driven society for a false sense of security that guarantees nothing, except a reduction of personal funds and looking like a fool.

Don't tell me they will always stay within running distance of their coffins either. I have seen far too many excuses to placate fear and sell out liberty for 10 lifetimes. Maybe the problem with the world is cowardness and fear of living.

[edit on 30-10-2006 by Regenmacher]



posted on Oct, 30 2006 @ 08:19 AM
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Its part of being a free society you get to spend your cash on virtually what ever you want.

If i remeber correctly during the Israel/Lebanon crisis thousands of rockets where launced into Israel, surely youd have to be a blind man not to see that is fair enough reason to build yourself a bomb shelter.


Its like wearing your seatbelt as you drive, in all probability you wont crash, but if you did your chances are much greater if you had been wearing that seatbelt.



posted on Oct, 30 2006 @ 08:52 AM
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Originally posted by NumberCruncher
Its like wearing your seatbelt as you drive, in all probability you wont crash, but if you did your chances are much greater if you had been wearing that seatbelt.


If someone threatened to drop a nuke on your house, then your going have me believe you'll be in the backyard digging a hole. Russia has nukes targeting the US and Iran has no nukes targeting Israel, so where's your nuke bunker?

Forget the seatbelt, I will sell you an anti-automobile bunker for only $10k.


Roadkill myths II: Israel is worse than any civilized country



[edit on 30-10-2006 by Regenmacher]



posted on Oct, 30 2006 @ 09:06 AM
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Why do you have to persist with a Nuke Bunker being only for Nukes argument/debate wind up thing your doing ? wtf.

Theyre Bomb shelters designed to increase your chance of survival from a Nuclear or Conventional attack and some can provide protection from Chemical and Biological attacks also, they can provide shelter from fires, earth quakes or other natural disasters.

So Russia has Nukes targetting the USA, big deal been that way for decades, but theyre not there beating War drums and saying we will wipe te USA off the map are they ?



posted on Oct, 30 2006 @ 09:35 AM
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You going to buy my automobile proof bunker or not? I'll throw in lead jockstrap for free. Otherwise your just blowing fear the reaper smoke and talking a load of crap.

Considering the odds of death in Israel from nukes or bombs is paltry in comparison to other leading causes of death, they aren't addressing reality or statistics. They are dancing around like fear driven fools, which is the primary goal of terrorism and tyranny...and your singing along with them.

Russia doesn't need to make threats or bluff, everyone knows they can wipe any nation off the map. The "big deal" is you have little clue what constitutes a real threat from a useless self- defeating worry. There's no glory in living like a coward or in fear. So what stops the Russians, China, Pakistan, India, France or the US? It's called MAD and it applies to all.

1 in 100 chance of dying never stopped the astronauts.





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posted on Oct, 30 2006 @ 09:47 AM
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Im sorry to hear that if you lived in Israel that you couldnt come up with the required resources to provide you and your family with an underground bunker/office/shelter come storage room.

Ill pass on the Automoblie bunker but ill take 6 jock straps, i can wear the same one on Saturday and Sunday (i only wash once per week).



posted on Oct, 30 2006 @ 10:22 AM
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Originally posted by NumberCruncher
Im sorry to hear that if you lived in Israel that you couldnt come up with the required resources to provide you and your family with an underground bunker/office/shelter come storage room.


If you're unable to think of nothing better to do, than to spend $60k on a nuclear bunker, then "your sorry" is all for you.

I have the funds and a real concern for my child's future, but one of the last things I would ever do is move to Israel and build a nuclear bunker. If it's such a real fear and you have the means to escape it, you don't stay in such an enviroment unless your suicidal or a nutball.


[edit on 30-10-2006 by Regenmacher]



posted on Oct, 30 2006 @ 10:47 AM
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Originally posted by Seekerof
Regenmacher, anyone can pull from two well known and notorious anti-Israel newspaper mediums to back up anything concerning Israel, including those articles that you pulled to back your pro-Iranian apologetic mentions concerning Ahmanutjob's intended and purposed statement to "wipe Israel off the face of the map."


There are more places that can confrim that he was misquoted. Look here:

informationclearinghouse.info...

And for the actual Farsi translation here.



posted on Oct, 30 2006 @ 12:25 PM
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My humble opinion is that what's being debated is really a matter of semantics and logistics.

One may argue that the Israeli's are living in fear by erecting Shelters, while another may argue that they are not living in fear, but preparing for an eventuality.

While diminishing your personal funds if you HAVEN'T the means is foolish, certainly if you HAVE the means to do so with as little turmoil to your personal standing is not considered a bad idea so long as it can ensure your families longevity.

I, too, believe that the Iranian President was misquoted to a degree, which may be an extremely difficult thing for most on here to comprehend as they have no awareness of culture shock and dialog variance. That being said, whether or not the Iranian President did mean X or Y is somewhat immaterial especially to this discussion, but even life in general. Those who have the means to prepare for eventualities will always do so, and those who don't will take their chances and hope for the best. I dont and will not always agree that they are living in fear. I mean, Regenmacher, not to pick on some of your analogies, but, you bring up a car in some of your posts, well, if you know that your vehicle get 20mpg and you need to drive 19 miles with only 1 gallon of petrol in your vehicle, do you wait to purchase petrol or do you fill the tank none the less? I think for a majority of the Israeli's the may just be filling the tank none the less.

Now, all things being equal and Russia vs. USA notwithstanding, ANY country on ANYONES borders can potentially be a threat to the other. The fine line holding things together is friendship and a mutual goal. If the goal disappears, then the friendship dissolves. This would be true of any 2 nations, but magnified on 2 that don't see eye-to-eye, and when religion comes into play, ouch.

What we're seeing I think is a millenia old game played to ensure that each other realizes just how much NOT in common they have...a war of words. Israel says Iran is the root of all evil, vice versa, and so it goes on and will go on.

My personal opinion on this making news, is only for the Israel Government to stress upon their people just how dangerous the Iranian Regime is and, thus, condones the reporting of these bunkers. Showing the world "See how afraid our poor people are"?

The REALITY is that they may or may not have a need to be worried, but having said everything else, so does everyone in circumspect.


AB1



posted on Oct, 30 2006 @ 12:35 PM
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Originally posted by DJMessiah

There are more places that can confrim that he was misquoted. Look here:

informationclearinghouse.info...

And for the actual Farsi translation here.


DJ
no matter what info or proof you post, for some people, nothing will cover it. They need these sayings just like "Pushed into the sea". If you notice it too was a well used statement whenever possible. This is the new catch phrase. Without it their goal of taking Iran down will be less of a chance. There needs to be some sort of urgency, even though specialists say that the chances are low that Iran has any such weapons, these catch phrases will counter that knowledge.



posted on Oct, 30 2006 @ 02:49 PM
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I know that people want to feel in control, but a nuke bunker is a bad idea...

for a couple of reasons...
Lack of need- waste of money...
puts you where they want you... unable to do anything but survive, for awhile.
makes for a great target, for a "non-nuke" attack... enemy comes over on foot - seals air supply off, and waits... then takes bunker for themselves.

Who wants to be a mole person anyways?



posted on Oct, 30 2006 @ 03:04 PM
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Isreal may have done things that everbody would consider not nice to secure the land they consider theirs. Others lay claim too and they have a point too. But in the real world sometimes both sides can be wrong. But just listen to yourself and you know your bias. Take a side and do something about it!

[edit on 30-10-2006 by October Suprise]



posted on Oct, 30 2006 @ 11:19 PM
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The one thing that actually maybe right about this is that the Israelis are actually preparing for a nuclear war in the not to distant future. What scares me about this is that the Mossad could hit the nail right on the head about a nuclear strike against Israel. It could be possible that Iran, Syria, and Russia could have something to do with this possibility of a nuclear strike against Israel. Why not? The Russians have been selling weapons to both Iran and Syria behind our backs.



posted on Oct, 31 2006 @ 12:01 AM
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Originally posted by LazarusTheLong


Who wants to be a mole person anyways?


You know all houses should be built underground anyway, have you ever been underground ?

Underground doesnt experience the swings in temperature as above ground, in a stinking hot summer underground is so cool, no cooling bills, no carbon adding to global warming.

Imagine entire suburbs of below ground houses, youd have so much yard to play in and grow trees etc where a house would be, housing estates would look like nature reserves.

I think it was one of the greatest misallocation of resources done by humanity building up when we should of been building down.

And you have the side effect of it being a Bomb Proof shelter down there!



posted on Oct, 31 2006 @ 04:10 AM
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Originally posted by Numbercruncher
You know all houses should be built underground anyway, have you ever been underground ?

Yes I have.
Depending on where, it's so f## damned hot that nobody wanna live there.

Ever heard about Geothermic energy?

Some places in New Zealand you only have to burry your egg half a foot down in the sand to get it boiled.
Caves in SE Asia can be so hot that you understand why hell is allocated with underground.

Might work with places that have a nice cool top soil. Like UK or Wisconsin.. or...



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