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Does The Bible Really Detail UFOs?

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posted on Nov, 2 2006 @ 06:04 PM
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Reganero, not Enoch. He supposedly was taken while still in the body;i.e soul.




posted on Nov, 3 2006 @ 11:13 AM
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I always wondered what enoch saw and learned when he was taken up to heaven as a mortal man and 'educated' by the angels in the ways of the universe.

Personally, I think he was taken up in a craft and probably given a little 'splaining to about how the universe really works.

What other historical figures have been thought to have been in direct extended contact with possible spacecraft? I feel there where alot more people historically who have shared in enochs journey spaceward to attend the 'University for Really Higher Learning.' What do you guys think?
Who else got a degree from URHL?



posted on Nov, 3 2006 @ 11:17 AM
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Well, in the lost books there are stories about people being taken to the "seventh heaven" and shown different things. I suspect that this is something,if we ever know the truth about it, we won't know about for quite some time to come.



posted on Nov, 4 2006 @ 12:57 PM
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Excellent thread, I never even thought about all the meanings in the Bible that could be seen as UFO's. All through school your taught that a star guided the 3 wise men and that was that! And when you think about it, how obvious it is that it probably refers to a ship. Maybe there is more to all the paintings from centuries gone by which show obvious spacecraft in the paintings>

Glorification of the Eucharist 1600



The baptism of Christ 1710



Considering they thought the world was flat, and flight was unimaginable...just where did these ideas come from? Maybe they had information that is lost to us?

Again great thread, really got me thinking!!

All pictures taken from here> www.bibleufo.com...



posted on Nov, 4 2006 @ 01:03 PM
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sure it talks about UFOs. but that doesnt necesarily mean theyre extraterrestrial spacecraft.

if you can call it an extraterrestrial spacecraft, it no longer is a UFO, since you have just identified it (albeit vaugely).

when did UFO become a synonym for an extraterrestrial craft anyway?

[edit on 4-11-2006 by prototism]



posted on Nov, 4 2006 @ 01:29 PM
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Originally posted by prototism
sure it talks about UFOs. but that doesnt necesarily mean theyre extraterrestrial spacecraft.

if you can call it an extraterrestrial spacecraft, it no longer is a UFO, since you have just identified it (albeit vaugely).

when did UFO become a synonym for an extraterrestrial craft anyway?

[edit on 4-11-2006 by prototism]


When did a Hoover become a synonym for vacuum cleaner? If you dont know what I mean, or cant fathom out what I mean, I am sorry.

If they dont mean extra-terrestial spacecraft, do you think they had this form of travel 2,000 years ago in Bethlehem? Please explain.



posted on Nov, 4 2006 @ 02:39 PM
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McPhisto, I think Prototism is claiming them to be a kind of spiritual craft, a theory I don't particularly agree with. Then you get into the whole debate of them possibly being "demonic" and yada yada... Another theory I don't view as being very plausible. How is an ethereal going to fly a vehicle around? Why would they have a need to?

McPhisto,I thought it interesting that you should bring up the old paintings with craft in the background. It is quite odd. I have known about those pictures for quite sometime. There are a few of them.



posted on Nov, 5 2006 @ 02:48 PM
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you understood correctly.

i was just trying to say, that just because theyre unidentified flying objects, that doesnt necessarily mean they are absolutely of extraterrestrial origin.



posted on Nov, 5 2006 @ 03:30 PM
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Originally posted by prototism
you understood correctly.

i was just trying to say, that just because theyre unidentified flying objects, that doesnt necessarily mean they are absolutely of extraterrestrial origin.


I understand what you are saying,but I hardly think they are spiritual in nature.



posted on Nov, 5 2006 @ 03:37 PM
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Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth

Originally posted by prototism
you understood correctly.

i was just trying to say, that just because theyre unidentified flying objects, that doesnt necessarily mean they are absolutely of extraterrestrial origin.


I understand what you are saying,but I hardly think they are spiritual in nature.
right. im not implying that either.

im saying that they are unidentified flying objects, and as such, should not be assumed to be anything terrestrial, spiritual, or extraterrestrial.



posted on Nov, 5 2006 @ 03:41 PM
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Proto, then what do you suggest? Are you implying that they are just archtypical? I cannot fathom what you could possibly implying.

[edit on 5-11-2006 by SpeakerofTruth]



posted on Nov, 5 2006 @ 03:47 PM
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Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth
Proto, then what do you suggest? Are you implying that they are just archtypical? I cannot fathom what you could possibly implying.

[edit on 5-11-2006 by SpeakerofTruth]
im saying that they are unknown, becasue they are.



posted on Nov, 5 2006 @ 03:54 PM
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Okay....I guess that will have to suffice.



It seems to me, not to be judgmental, that you don't want to take a stance on the subject, so you just say they are "unknown",Proto. At least, that's the impression that I get from your posts. I am not saying that there is anything wrong with that,it's just an observation.



posted on Nov, 5 2006 @ 04:42 PM
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the gods are aliens and the aliens are the gods. God or the Gods ain't in a hurry to appear and clear up any confusion about which is the correct religion or God to follow, and the aliens likewise have created many different belief systems and ain't in a hurry to appear and clear up any confusion. So we're dealing with the same force that the ancients called God or Gods.

God took a part of one human to make another human. The modern day aliens take parts of one human to make another human. A reptile was made out to be the bad guy in the garden of Eden, and reptiles are made out to be the bad guys in this modern day alien phenom.

God said humans were not permitted to have knowledge that would make them into gods, and in this modern age the aliens are busy covering over all information that would lift us out of our primitive darkness, while they flit around like gods defying all the laws of physics and time.

Of course the gods of old are the aliens of today in my opinion.






[edit on 5-11-2006 by probedbygrays]



posted on Nov, 5 2006 @ 05:56 PM
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Originally posted by prototism

Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth

Originally posted by prototism
you understood correctly.

i was just trying to say, that just because theyre unidentified flying objects, that doesnt necessarily mean they are absolutely of extraterrestrial origin.


I understand what you are saying,but I hardly think they are spiritual in nature.
right. im not implying that either.

im saying that they are unidentified flying objects, and as such, should not be assumed to be anything terrestrial, spiritual, or extraterrestrial.



i think there were both. from here on earth and from the heavens. there were fallen angels here before we got here and the bible explains that they had relations with human women so they can definatly be in the physical realm (been talked about many times on ats).... plus the main man came down here a quite a few times from some place in this universe (moses and his experience is a good one). in my opinion somewhere near orion.



posted on Nov, 6 2006 @ 12:27 AM
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i just dont want to make any assumptions, and then base an entire argument or opinion off that assumption.



posted on Nov, 6 2006 @ 12:31 AM
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Originally posted by probedbygrays
the gods are aliens and the aliens are the gods. God or the Gods ain't in a hurry to appear and clear up any confusion about which is the correct religion or God to follow, and the aliens likewise have created many different belief systems and ain't in a hurry to appear and clear up any confusion. So we're dealing with the same force that the ancients called God or Gods.

God took a part of one human to make another human. The modern day aliens take parts of one human to make another human. A reptile was made out to be the bad guy in the garden of Eden, and reptiles are made out to be the bad guys in this modern day alien phenom.

God said humans were not permitted to have knowledge that would make them into gods, and in this modern age the aliens are busy covering over all information that would lift us out of our primitive darkness, while they flit around like gods defying all the laws of physics and time.

Of course the gods of old are the aliens of today in my opinion.






[edit on 5-11-2006 by probedbygrays]
i also believe that.

humans are an expriment, and the humands that did see the aliens, knew that they were much more powerful then them, and as a result started worshipping them.

they then created "rules" to follow so they could attempt to be as "perfect" as they were. the after life was crated as the motivation to "be good".

the concept of god is a human one. humans were created, but not by God in the human sense.



posted on Nov, 6 2006 @ 12:37 PM
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ALot of interesting theories being discussed on this thread. I've often wondered about the snake in the garden of eden thing too.

My take is suprisingly similar with sacharia zitchens, although i'm not a fan of his work. However, it seems probable to me that the serpent in the garden was a metaphore for the symbol of Enki (which was a pair of serpents wrapped around a staff-it later went on to become our symbol for medicine) the ancient creator god,from sumerian religion, which most religions and tales in the region are an off shoot from. He loved humans because he was more instrumental in their inception, not like the main god running things at the time-Enlil, Enki's bro. Enki was the scientist who created much of mans tools,could he not have been the one to have given us education(apple,tree of knowledge) because he cared about us? However a smart creation is one that can quickly get out of ones control. Did Enlil punish humanity and demonise Enki's name to thwart our own potential, we could have posed a threat to their plans. What do you guys think.



posted on Nov, 6 2006 @ 12:41 PM
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Yeah,Bass. I think that Sitchin stole that theory from the Gnostics, really. The Gnostics were quite explicit in their ideology that there was the one true universal God,the God of Jesus, and then the lower base god that created the earth.

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[edit on 6-11-2006 by SpeakerofTruth]



posted on Nov, 9 2006 @ 08:31 PM
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so if it is neither terrestrial or ET then what else is left? you are now painted into a corner and checkmate at the same time? Nice job smartass. You know what is being implied by UFO just like everyone else in this thread. What should we call suspected alien aircraft then? SAA? Was anyone on this planet flying around back then? NO! Then can we safely assume that anything besides birds bats and insects flying around in the SKY (heavens) is not of this earth? Hence EXTRA-TERRESTRIAL!?!?... SHEEESSHHHH!!!



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