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reply posted on 29-10-2006 @ 11:07 PM by LoneGunMan
This type of action in general has been happening to quite a few schools. About a year and a half ago their was a school search for drugs. They brought in drug sniffing K-9s and lined the kids dow th hall while letting potentialy dangerous dogs sniff the children and the lockers for drugs. Then sometime ago ther was the case of having I think it was first graders, or close to it bring in an item from home for show and tell. When they brought in the item on the day in question, they a had drug sniffing K-9 and told the children not to make any "sudden moves" near the K-9. They then proceded to have the dog sniff the items brought from home for the smell of drugs.

We have our school children being tested for drugs. Searched, siezed, frightened made to believe they cannot trust each other for fear of being shot by one of their own. Having what in the real world are illegal raids and exposed to a military style police force. The police are acting and dressing more and more like the military everywhere. I had a friend on the sheriff department we work with, when I told him of the police tasering a six year old child he stated "dude some of those kids that are A.D.H.D. can become very violent". I said come on man we are talkng about a six year old here, I think you boys can handle that! He was silent.
tasered child

My opinion is that if you want a timeline for the police state to be in full swing, figure out when this generation of school kids will be running the show. They will be fully indocternated to follow orders without resistance.

My generation will be too old to stop it...


reply posted on 30-10-2006 @ 12:07 AM by ignorant_ape
Originally posted by LoneGunMantasered child


so are the police dammed if they do , dammed if they dont ?

according to my bst guess from reasing that piece - the incident happened on friday november 5th 2004

what the hell is a 12 year old doing dunk on a friday morning ?????????

and the line that caught my attention was :

firing the Taser when she began to run into traffic. The electric probes hit the girl in the neck and lower back, immobilizing her.


running into traffic ? how many people would scream police negligence if she had run out into traffic drunk and been knocked down ??????

as i said - dammed if they do , dammed if they dont .

please peruse the archives of overlawyered.com to see just how common lawsuites agaist the police are when they do not intervene .


My generation will be too old to stop it...


really ? ..... how old were the founding fathers and thier compatriots when they stood up ?


" aww screw it ... i am too old .... it is some elses problem .... let them deal with it ..."

hey thats a great attitue to take



reply posted on 30-10-2006 @ 01:33 AM by SmallMindsBigIdeas
Originally posted by XPhiles

Officers wore protective gear, including vests and helmets, and carried rifles that were unloaded and marked with colored tape to indicate they were not live weapons, the newspaper said.


I'm not so much surprised of this situation (to numb the masses), but here is the problem, cops dressed like soldiers "helmets." If one adds the camo and black boots then it adds more attitude toward us. Over the years they have slowly gone from hats to helmets, camo ect... numbing the masses

Cops dressed like an urban army, storming a school should wake some sheep I would hope?
I wonder if they had any those heavy swat armoured vehicles encircle the school?


What's wrong with police responding to events with adequate protection? We're not talking about them showing up to a bar fight with the SWAT armored vehicle. They were staging a training situation involving a school evacuation (I'm assuming for some hostage/barricade or active shooter scenario) ... they wouldn't show up in a hawaiin shirt and shorts. In a real life event everyone is going to be freaked out anyways and I don't think seeing officers in full armor gear and with AR15's are going to scare people beyond that.

If you've ever watched the BofA Robbery in LA it's pretty easy to see how the typical beat cop (or 30+ of them) can become overwhelmed and pinned down by just a few suspects with automatic weapons and armor vests/helmets. I have no problem with the police responding, and training to respond, to these situations with the adequate protection to save their lives and members of the public.

I'm just not sure what you think the appropriate response to a situation like this would be.


reply posted on 30-10-2006 @ 10:11 AM by LoneGunMan
Originally posted by Grailkeeper

I am one of the ones that thinks it was good for several reasons:

a. Training for the police, they can never have too much training. I think lack of training is what leads to most of the 'bad incidents'.


Training for the police?!?!? Have you EVER had training for an emergency incident? You want the F.D. to come and torch a school building so we can do search and reascue training?

The police do NOT need ot involve citizens, especially that are not old enough to give consent when they are training. Why do some people not think these things through. The training they did does NOT sharpen their skills, it does nothing but create a rift between thme and the public. The police are creating their own bad image, and they want to drag US the F.D. with them. (that is another story and when that happens my badge goes to the smelter) There are grumblings about getting the FD more involved in correction type actions.

You train with role players. Either you hire them or you work with other departments. This is the ONLY way to train. You want to me to train carrying a patient down a fire ladder with YOUR children. Vehicle extrication, that would be safe. but tramatic. We trin with fellow firefighters, when I can carry large man down a ladder I know I can carry your child down a ladder. Training should never invovle the public, police training is violent actions that is very tramamic for people. No matter if they are warned in advance or not. You tell me what from the police training perspective is the difference if they use other cops or paid adults to roleplay lining children up against the wall? Unless you have had emergency training I suggest you keep your mouth shut, because the mind is fooled whether it is the real deal or mock training with fellow profesionals.



on one hand, everyone complains about the rising number of violent incidents in the school systems and that nothing is being done to stop it. on the other, they complain when action is taken to curb that violence. make a decision folks. either you dont care about the drugs, guns and violence in schools or you do.


Sorry but this is a social issue not a police offencive tactical issue. This violence will only get worst if we do not go to the root of the problem. It will become just another "War on" issue. War on drugs, War on poverty, War on terror. What do you want to call this one? Oh I know! It will be so cute! "War on children"

This issue has to be delt with at the root, not at the fruit. That was a pretty decent line! No more of this crap of going after the cat after its out of the bag, lets figure out why the cat was in the bag in the firt place, and fix that. We didnt have these issues before we had been indoctrinated to violence through cable television, violent video games and adults forgetting that they are dealing with people in the business world and not just money.

"There are thousands hacking at the branches of evil to one striking at the root"
~Henry David Thoreau

To the person that misquoted me and sai I though I was too old to do something about it, I was talking about 20-30 years from now. I am still in my prime right now and ready, so plaese dont be so unable to read between the lines, I know television does all the thinking for a lot of you, but please that was pretty straight forward and didnt take much of a leap to understand what I was saying.

Edit: I am a very bad typist, especially when angry, lot of typos in this one.

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