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posted on Jan, 22 2007 @ 05:56 PM
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Yea, T V , I found that ATS thread , last week, and didn't have any luck either.

I'm still not convinced this is a drug related clue, so I've been trying to look at every other connection.

I revisiting the Geopolitical side of 'White China',
since the way the clue is laid out,
with capitalized words and no comma
between White and China, it seems to beg that definition.

Just not finding anything definitive to further delve into.

Also went back to 'white hat' related stuff , cyber-terrorism n such,
with China , but no luck with that either.



White -
...list
...hat
...noise
...light
...wash




posted on Jan, 22 2007 @ 06:12 PM
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I still think Harry Dexter White fits the best, T V.

right time frame. (yea, I know the clue says non sequential)
with a natural
CIA and
China connection

Maybe you could steer your kung fu into that fork,
a bit, in the chance I missed the obvious?



posted on Jan, 22 2007 @ 06:23 PM
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I thought about that too at first, since I've usually heard it phrased as China White, not White China, but I can't find any mention of nationalist Chinese as "Whites". Seems to be mostly a Russian civil war term.

I haven't had much luck with White Flag Communists either.


I did however just discover a Chinese ethnic group called the Bai, or "White People". They live in the Yunnan province, in the South, which means there neighborhood would be a logical place for the CIA to make waves as it borders Myanmar (formerly Burma) where the KMT fell back and played a role in the opium trade. In other words, it could be a double-entendre.

I'll look into that angle.

I will also try my kung fu on Harry Dexter White as you asked.

My Kung Fu is the Greatest.

[edit on 22-1-2007 by The Vagabond]



posted on Jan, 22 2007 @ 08:31 PM
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Originally posted by The Vagabond
I will also try my kung fu on Harry Dexter White as you asked.

My Kung Fu is the Greatest.





Oh yea, there's also 'China White Paper', as mentioned by Zarniwoop and his link.
www.law.nyu.edu...

Forgot to check that out at the time .
Although I seem to remember
the phrase ' White Paper' seems to be a general term ,
like
project, proposal, agreement , etc.

Guess I'll check that out.

[edit on 22-1-2007 by Jbird]



posted on Jan, 23 2007 @ 12:03 AM
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Howdy all, I am back now from a little much needed time off.

I see the game is still at a standstill and after reading AboveTopSecrets post I am even more determined now to get this answer so we can move on.


I have checked into the HDWhite angle as well jbird, even though it "fits" the bill, you would think Admin would have said something by now.


Right now I am checking on the mind control/ truth serum angle. Everytime I look at the question, I think of "real reason" as truth, and when I look for white china and truth together It comes up with the CIA creating behavior modification projects.

Anyone else delved furthur into this angle?

Here is an excerpt from the page I am currently looking at...


In an effort to expand its research program, the CIA contacted academics and other outside experts who specialized in areas of mutual interest. Liaison was established with the research sections of police departments and criminology laboratories; medical practitioners, professional hypnotists, and psychiatrists were brought on as paid consultants, and various branches of the military provided assistance. Oftentimes, these arrangements involved a cover to conceal the CIA's interest in behavior modification. With the bureaucratic apparatus already in place, the CIA's mind control efforts were integrated into a single project under the codename BLUEBIRD. Due to the extreme sensitivity of the project, the usual channels for authorization were bypassed -- instead of going through the Projects Review Committee, the proposal for BLUEBIRD was submitted directly to CIA director Roscoe Hillenkoetter, who authorized the use of un-vouchered funds to finance the hush-hush undertaking. With this seal of approval, the CIA's first major drug-testing program was officially launched. BLUEBIRD was to remained a carefully guarded secret, for if word of the program leaked out, it would have been a great embarrassment and a detriment to American intelligence. As one CIA document put it, BLUEBIRD material was "not fit for public consumption."

From the outset, the CIA's mind control program had an explicit domestic angle. A memo dated July 13, 1951, described the Agency's mind-bending efforts as "broad and comprehensive, involving both domestic and overseas activities, and taking into consideration the programs and objectives of other departments, principally the military services." BLUEBIRD activities were designed to create as "exploitable alteration of personality" in selected individuals; specific targets included "potential agents, defectors, refugees, POWs," and a vague category of "others." A number of units within the CIA participated in this endeavor, including the Inspection and Security Staff (the forerunner of the Office of Security), which assumed overall responsibility for running the program and dispatching the special interrogation teams. Colonel Sheffield Edwards, the chairman of the BLUEBIRD steering committee, consistently pushed for a more reliable speech-inducing substance. By the time BLUEBIRD evolved into Operation ARTICHOKE (the formal change in codenames occurred August 1951), Security officials were still searching for the magic technique -- the deus ex machina -- that would guarantee surefire results.


www.gnosticliberationfront.com...

[edit on 23-1-2007 by downintheupside]



posted on Jan, 23 2007 @ 12:57 AM
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Originally posted by downintheupside
Howdy all, I am back now from a little much needed time off.


woohoo... welcome back downintheupside


I'm feeling some real momentum here


(even though the current question is completely vague and requires a hint... not that I'm whining or anything... if anyone's even listening, that is)



posted on Jan, 23 2007 @ 08:21 AM
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Lotsa stuff here on the China White angle

www.google.com...

I've got a bad feeling there's some obscure website out here, like the Lykabettos site, that says "the real reason the CIA, blah.. blah...blah",
and we just haven't stumbled across it yet.



posted on Jan, 23 2007 @ 07:24 PM
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Well, the 'White Paper' angle seems to be quite the
(white) rabbit hole.

CIA and China everywhere, but not much trace of 'real reason'
Just to deep, without a time reference.

fodder from the '49 China White Paper...

justifydictatorship
atomicdiplomacy
stopcommunism
containment
communismcontainment
containcommunism
chiangkaishek

Looking at many other 'white papers' but no obvious conspiracies.

tried:
buddhaswarriors
tibetanliberation
freetibet
tibetindependence
douglasmackiernan

so far



posted on Jan, 25 2007 @ 08:27 PM
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Wow. Nobody even guessing anymore.

I thought we might've garnered a little resurgence...there for a
minute.

Guess I should pack up my pom poms and
head back to the clubhouse.

I'm about out of rallying cries.

And I sure ain't got a clue.


latest tries:
dalailama
mustang
lomonthang
liberatetibet



posted on Jan, 25 2007 @ 08:32 PM
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We're going to revive the game by repacking the remaining questions.

Some of the questions are not "researchable" online and require some degree of overall knowledge of conspiracy theory history. We're going to improve the "solvability" of those types of questions and relaunch the game.

This will take about two weeks.

When we relaunch, we'll start from where we are now.

I think we made this one too hard after the previous two, and we need to dial back a bit.



posted on Jan, 25 2007 @ 09:12 PM
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*cue applause*

'Bout time, Mr. ATS. I fried my brain matter over that last question.





posted on Jan, 25 2007 @ 09:16 PM
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Some of the questions are not "researchable" online
and require some degree of overall knowledge of conspiracy theory history.


So I'm guessing the current question falls into that category,
and thus explains the knot on my forehead.

Also sounds like it was semi-general knowledge.

Maybe we 'overthunk' it?


Anyway thanks for the clue



posted on Jan, 25 2007 @ 10:51 PM
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woohoo!

Thanks for not scrapping it.


See you all in a couple of weeks



posted on Jan, 26 2007 @ 01:30 PM
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Yay. that's really great news.
I guess we were just victims of our own success after all.
See you guys in a couple of weeks.



posted on Jan, 26 2007 @ 06:41 PM
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You know, I was going to mention maybe it was time to go to the library and do some searching through books on this but never got around to it..


This is great news! See ya all in a couple weeks.



posted on Jan, 31 2007 @ 03:11 PM
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I don't know if this is supposed to mean anything but somebody posted this on the anon board.


what freedoms cast. what lot
the service of the queen condemns
the hood, the heart, the hawk
fleeting by the summer winds
the feast as yet un FOUGHT
trifle trifle, toiling twins
this time we'll cross the arc



posted on Jan, 31 2007 @ 08:08 PM
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Originally posted by executioner

what freedoms cast. what lot
the service of the queen condemns
the hood, the heart, the hawk
fleeting by the summer winds
the feast as yet un FOUGHT
trifle trifle, toiling twins
this time we'll cross the arc


Has it been 2 weeks, already, Ex' ?

What's your take?

Not sure why, but Desert Storm jumped into my head
after reading that.

I don't see any difference on the Conspiracy.org page.



posted on Feb, 1 2007 @ 03:54 PM
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what freedoms cast. what lot
the service of the queen condemns
the hood, the heart, the hawk
fleeting by the summer winds
the feast as yet un FOUGHT
trifle trifle, toiling twins
this time we'll cross the arc




“what lot the service of the queen condemns”, conscription?, "service to the Queen", reference to British armed forces, "who fight for the queen"



“Hawk”, Tomahawk?, surface to air missile?

“toiling “, Warmongering, mischief ”twins” the US and UK? The “Queen” reference.

"twins", Cold War, US & Russia two superpowers at the time? (1950s+)

“Trifle trifle” the repetition indicates to me that “trifle” in this instance is meant in the sense to take your time, ponder or stall.

“ARC” American Red Cross?


The Alliteration of "Hood", "Heart", "Hawk", is curious.



posted on Feb, 11 2007 @ 10:30 PM
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So are we starting up again soon, or if not, is the white china question still theoretically answerable?



posted on Feb, 12 2007 @ 02:39 PM
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Well they said it would take about 2 weeks to simplify the questions/answers and it's been just over that, so it should be any day now.



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