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Masked Sex-Ritual

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posted on Oct, 26 2006 @ 10:25 PM
If anyone's seen "Eyes Wide Shut", I was wondering if they knew the language being sung before/during the masked sex-ritual scene.

To me, it sounds like backwards-talk.

Any other guesses, or does anyone know?

posted on Oct, 26 2006 @ 10:32 PM
That is a song by Jocelyn Pook, who does indeed use backwards-speaking samples in that track.

posted on Oct, 26 2006 @ 10:34 PM
Do you (or anyone) know what exactly is being said?..

posted on Oct, 26 2006 @ 11:14 PM
Unfortunately not, although I do know that it is a fragment of a Romanian Orthodox mass played backwards.

posted on Oct, 26 2006 @ 11:16 PM
So the language would be Romanian, and the text would be from the Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom...interesting...

posted on Oct, 28 2006 @ 04:07 AM
What sort of secret society is this about?

posted on Oct, 28 2006 @ 03:58 PM

Originally posted by yeht
What sort of secret society is this about?

What sort?

This sort:

Stanley Kubrick, 2001 A Space Odyssey

You can believe whatever you want. Just remember:

"The most dangerous potion that the tenebrous ones use in order to take the student out of the path of the razor's edge is the intellect (which is fascinated with ideas, concepts, theories, and does not see the conscious values of any given thing)..."

As for myself, Eyes Wide Shut demonstrated to me the very real facts of what is going on behind the Hollywood facade.

(The film is a blatant demonstration of Initiation into the Black Lodge).

Perhaps that is why the Law took him away the day he finished the film.

The same can be said about movies like "The Matrix" and many others, which are all Zionist/Black-Lodge propaganda.


Stanley Kubrick, 2001 A Space Odyssey

You are taking the film only on the literal level.

The entire drama is a manipulation by Alice, who is already awake and a memeber of the society, who is working with them to bring her husband into it.

As an awakened person (in evil) she does not dream: she is awake in those experiences, and is working the egos of her husband into to awaken him. This is what black magicians do, and the film reflects that.

Even more disturbing is that the film does it in such an accurate way that you still do not see it! That is how clever black magicians are in your life, and that is how clever Kubrick was, too.

Eyes Wide Shut is a blatant demonstration of how persons who are awakened in evil manipulate forces in order to initiate others into their path. This is happening on a daily basis, and is happening in our own lives, too, especially when we are being shown Gnosis. There are persons in our lives who work in very subtle and clever ways to divert us from the path. I have personal experience of cases in which those persons even remain as members of Gnostic schools in order to destroy those groups slowly over time. These persons are wives and husbands and teachers and friends, and there is no concrete physical evidence of their activities. The film demonstrates this. They look innocent; so you have to use a lot of intuition and inner experiences in order to know that facts. The same goes for this movie.


[edit on 28-10-2006 by Tamahu]

posted on Oct, 29 2006 @ 12:30 AM
Their are Dozens of secret societies that us the "heros gamos" or so this perticular sex rite scene in the movie is called.

I havent seen the movie in years so i'll have to go back and study it further to get a better idea, however i can tell you this, the "heros gamos" is mostly used in a few Europian societies. It's a VERY religious experiance meant to show the divinity of the female body and said that men can only see the true face of god durring the hight of this perticual rite.

It actually dates back thousands of years as well and was widely used by pagans as well as the Gnostics of the middle east. The gnostics today say that they have since stopped the rite and havent used it in a number of years.

Pretty much most societies that you hear of that practice this rite never have. like masons or illuminati or rosicrucians. This a VERY old and VERY effective rite that has nearly died out of exsistance.

[edit on 29-10-2006 by umwolves123]

posted on Oct, 29 2006 @ 05:36 PM

But there are two basic versions of it.

The White and the Black.

Stanley Kubrick's film, and also the movie "The DaVinci Code" depict the Black Tantric version.

One Rite to awaken the Kundalini(White), and one to awaken the Kundartiguador(Black).

The former is based on chaste eroticism and true voluptuousness, while the latter is based on filth and fornication.

The authentic Rosicrucians(as opposed to the dozens of pseudo-Rosicrucian groups out there) are said to preserve the Great Arcanum A.Z.F.

The Masonic Lodges are said to have preserved the Great Arcanum up until about 200 years ago.

H.H. The 14th Dalai Lama and many other Lamas of the Sakya, Kagyu, Nyingma and Bon schools preserve the Great Arcanum known as Karma Mudra:

A text called the Sacred Words of Manjushri, composed by the Indian master Buddhajnana, mentions that because of the physical structure of our bodies and the elements that we possess as human beings inhabiting this planet, even on an ordinary level, there are certain occasions when we experience the subtle level of clear light, naturally. These occur during sleep, yawning, fainting and sexual climax.

This shows that we have within ourselves a certain potential which we can explore further. And among these four states, the best opportunity for further development is during the sexual intercourse.

Although I am using this ordinary term, sexual climax, it does not imply the ordinary sexual act. The reference here is to the experience of entering into union with a consort of the opposite sex, by means of which the elements at the crown are melted, and through the power of meditation the process is also reversed.

A prerequisite of such a practise is that you should be able to protect yourself from the fault of seminal emission. According to the explanation of the Kalachakra Tantra in particular, such emission is said to be very damaging to your practice. Therefore, because you should not experience emission even in dreams, the tantras describe different techniques for overcoming this fault.

This contrasts with the Vinaya explanation, which sets out the code of discipline for Buddhist monks, in which exception is made for emission in dreams, because it is beyond your control, whereas in tantra it is considered an offence. The experience of melting the mind of enlightement is brought about by ordinary afflicted desire, so the practitioner must be able to generate it.

The point is that due to the force of desire, you are able to melt the elements within your body. Consequently, when you experience the nonconceptual state, you should be able to direct your attention to meditation on emptiness. So, when you experience a nonconceptual state as a result of the elements melting within your body, if you are able to generate that understanding into a realization of emptiness, you will have achieved the feat of transforming a disturbing emotion, desire, into the wisdom realizing emptiness.

When you are able to employ this nonconceptual blissful mind in realizing emptiness, the result is a powerful wisdom that serves as an antidote to counteract and eliminate diusturbing emotions. Therefore, it is a case of wisdom derived from disturbing emotions counteracting and eliminating them, just as insects born from wood consume it.

This is the significance of the Buddha's assuming the form of a meditational deity, the principal deity of the mandala, and entering into union with the consort when he taught the tantric path. Therefore, in the course of their practice, practitioners generate themselves on an imaginary level into such deities in union with a consort...

It is said that H.P. Blavatsky completed the Kalachakra Initiation after marrying H.S. Olcott(of course at that time, the Arcanum was not to be spoken about in the outer circles of Gnostic sects such as the Theosophical Society).

The Dugpa or Drukpa clan of Tibet however, teaches something very similiar to the Black Rites of Tantrism taught by many modern "Gnostic" sects and schools of Yoga to be found in this Kali Yuga(which A. Hitler knew something about):

The Forms of Tantrism

So Dan Brown commits a serious mistake by implying that the Brothers of the Temple practice Black Tantrism.

Sure the Knights Templar preserved the Great Arcanum(related to the Mysteries of Baphomet); however they degenerated, and no longer represented the Brothers of the Temple after that.

This what I've learned of all this anyway.


[edit on 29-10-2006 by Tamahu]

posted on Oct, 30 2006 @ 07:29 AM
[ Perhaps that is why the Law took him away the day he finished the film.

Didn't Kubrick die before the film was finished? How could he be "taken away" if he's already dead?

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posted on Feb, 2 2009 @ 08:47 AM
reply to post by Tamahu

Apparently there is a form of Hieros Gamos in which one girl has willing sex with a number of young male initiates. I'm told this is done to "bind" the men together as a cohesive group. Does anyone know what kind of cult or order does this ? And could this be what Eyes Wide Shut is really about ?

posted on Feb, 2 2009 @ 06:50 PM
reply to post by Anonymous ATS

You know, Hieros Gamos means "holy wedding" or "sacred marriage" and refers to a rather specific sort of ritual, namely that of symbolically marrying/mating with a god/dess. Not every sex ritual is Hieros Gamos.

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