America: Freedom to Fascism - Federal Reserve and Taxes, page 4
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reply posted on 7-12-2006 @ 01:59 PM by Undutchable
Originally posted by Undutchable
Doesn't the 16th amendment say "any income"?

Originally posted by MidnightDStroyer
This is where I see continuing confusion between the terms "gain" & "income"...If personal effort is exchanged for money, that does not automatically mean it's included in the definitions for "gain" or "income"; This is more of an equal exchange, like bartering value for value. Even on the Tax Forms, the terms "Wages & Compensation" are used...Not "Gain or Income!" This is the key to the whole Petition; Make the Courts rule on whether the already-established laws about "income" include Wages & Compensation." So far, it's been shown that Wages & Compensation have not been included within those laws.


If it's been shown that Wages & Compensation are not included, how come some people get arrested and/or sentenced? What confuses me is that they sometimes bust people for it and sometimes they go free. It seems that the whole "law" is up for interpretation. I can't understand why, despite the fact that Supreme Courts have ruled in favor of the fact that Income tax is not proven as a law, people still get sued/arrested/sentenced over it. A law is either ruled one or the other, how can it be yes and no at the same time? You'll have to excuse some of my reasoning, i'm not a US national, but a Dutch national living in the US. I'm just learning and discovering about this kind of thing. I'm not as familiar with dealings of your constitution and law as a US citizen might be. I do understand actually opening the constitution is a tricky thing.



reply posted on 8-12-2006 @ 05:14 AM by MidnightDStroyer
Originally posted by Undutchable
If it's been shown that Wages & Compensation are not included, how come some people get arrested and/or sentenced?

Because the IRS does not even follow their laws that concern them! If you also check out the story of the "No Answers, No Taxes" petitioning process at
We The People Foundation, there's also a related story about how the IRS had been illegally pressuring Schultz to retract his petitioning of the government about the whole tax issue: The case of Schultz vs. IRS.
The Supreme court ruled that the IRS must stop pressuring Shultz while the legal & Constitutional petition is still in-process.
The website includes what pressuring the IRS had done & how this subsidiary counter-suit was brought against the IRS for breaking its own laws.


reply posted on 18-3-2010 @ 01:33 AM by free-energy
reply to post by sp00n1


You said:

The US dollar is largely backed by Petroleum. If Free Energy gets out, the dollar will collapse!!


So the new currency will have to be backed by energy.
Perhaps alcohol.
What a revolutionary idea to have the people produce their own wealth!

People, communities and empathy are made by people. You cannot buy any of the above at Sears. I hear their log cabins are top notch though.
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