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Global warming: Here come the lawyers
Two days after hurricane Katrina smashed into the Gulf Coast, F. Gerald Maples returned to his hometown of Pass Christian, Miss., to utter devastation. Most of his neighbors' houses were totally destroyed. His was in ruins. "It broke our hearts and absolutely changed our lives," he says. It also made Maples, a veteran asbestos plaintiffs' attorney in New Orleans, determined to fight back. "I couldn't stand by when my entire cultural history was destroyed by an event that could become more frequent because of global warming," he says.
So when friend and fellow trial lawyer Timothy W. Porter showed up to help with food and water, the two plotted a legal assault. Since Katrina's fury was powered by unusually warm Gulf water, and since such warmth could result from global warming, companies that have pumped the atmosphere full of greenhouse gases like carbon dioxide should be liable for damages, they figured. "To me, Katrina was a clear result of irresponsible behavior by the carbon-emissions corporate economy," says Maples. He recruited suddenly homeless neighbors like Ned Comer and filed a class action on their behalf in federal court in Gulfport, Miss. The defendants? Dozens of oil companies, utilities, and coal producers, from Chevron and Exxon Mobil to American Electric Power and Xcel Energy. "This is a heartfelt effort," Maples says. "I don't want to leave this global warming mess to my children."
Neither, apparently, do a host of other lawyers, in what is becoming an ambitious legal war on oil, electric power, auto, and other companies whose emissions are linked to global warming. At least 16 cases, drawing on a variety of legal strategies, are pending in federal or state court. It may seem like an unconnected hodgepodge of initiatives, but whether it's a case now before the U.S. Supreme Court seeking to force the Environmental Protection Agency to crack down on greenhouse gases or the effort by a coalition of Texas cities to require cleaner plants than 17 now proposed by utilities, the challenges spring from a common concern: the lack of action in Washington. "This boomlet in global warming litigation represents frustration with the White House's and Congress' failure to come to grips with the issue," says John Echeverria, executive director of Georgetown University's Environmental Law & Policy Institute. "So the courts, for better or worse, are taking the lead."
Originally posted by looking4truth
...finding ways to combat pollution without disrupting progress or the current quality of life, thats the only way to succeed here.
What exactlyi do you mean by "progress" and "quality of life" ??? Given that so-called progress and the resultant pollution are totally destroying our health and quality of life.
Originally posted by sardion2000
Quality of life is simply the number of people who are not destitute and starving. The lower the number compared to the overall majority the better the Quality of Life.
Originally posted by soficrow
Thanks for your comments sardion, closettrekkie and looking4truth.
Originally posted by looking4truth
...finding ways to combat pollution without disrupting progress or the current quality of life, thats the only way to succeed here.
What exactlyi do you mean by "progress" and "quality of life" ??? Given that so-called progress and the resultant pollution are totally destroying our health and quality of life.
I have a problem with this definition. ...By (lowered/lessened) quality of life I am referring to the current pandemic of chronic disease - and the fact that younger and younger people are suffering so-called "age-related" diseases.
This pandemic results from contamination of the macro-environment, causing contamination of micro-environment - and disease.
...We are talking synthetic chemicals, unpredictable compounds, and dynamic interractions - never mind the effects of unregulated nanotech.
So what do we do to fix it? Add more crud to the mix, and complicate the matter further? Wait for evolution to solve the problem?
Originally posted by looking4truth
...Average world life expectancy has risen nearly everywhere. Major diseases have been completely eliminated and we are working towards understanding our bodies in ways that were unimaginable a century ago.
Evolution and the environment, not just gluttony, has led to a global obesity pandemic, with an estimated 1.5 billion people overweight -- more than the number of undernourished people -- an obesity conference was told on Monday. ...The mounting epidemic of obesity in children would see many die before their parents, said Kate Steinbeck, co-chair of the 10th International Congress on Obesity in Sydney. ..."This is the first generation in history where children may die before their parents," Steinbeck told the conference.
Steinbeck said fighting obesity was not simply a matter of people eating less and exercising more, but discovering environmental and genetic contributors to obesity. ..."We know this is not about gluttony - it is the interaction of heredity and environment," said Steinbeck. ...New obesity research has found that too little sleep and fats from fast food can alter a person's biology, making them more susceptible to overeating and less active, said the International Association for the Study of Obesity. ...Vernon said millions of obese people were being discriminated against and stigmatised, and often denied access to medical services.
Dietary supplements and alternative treatments promising weight loss have minimal or no effect because they cannot match evolutionary influences that cause the body to conserve energy in times of famine, Dr Anne-Thea McGill told the conference. ..."Early humans sought energy-dense food with high levels of fats, starches and sugars. We are genetically programmed to find foods with these qualities appealing," said McGill. ..."However, highly energy-dense Western diets have had many of the flavour and micronutrients processed out of them. The artificial replacements in starchy, fatty and sugary foods make them over-palatable and easy to eat quickly." ...But too much processed food results in an excess energy intake deficient in micronutrients, producing a state of "malnutrition", which in turn sees the body react to a "famine stress" by storing fat around the upper body, said McGill. ..."Many over-the-counter remedies such as concentrated herbal preparations, food extracts, minerals and vitamins are promoted as helping to decrease body weight," she said. ..."However, they do not redress the nutrient imbalance from poor diets that produce obesity."
Originally posted by looking4truth
Progress isn't perfect, I'll give you that, but what is it you propose as the alternative? The world population is far to huge to go back to a pre-industrial revolution type lifestyle for us all.
I have a problem with this definition. ...By (lowered/lessened) quality of life I am referring to the current pandemic of chronic disease - and the fact that younger and younger people are suffering so-called "age-related" diseases.
This pandemic results from contamination of the macro-environment, causing contamination of micro-environment - and disease.
...We are talking synthetic chemicals, unpredictable compounds, and dynamic interractions - never mind the effects of unregulated nanotech.
So what do we do to fix it? Add more crud to the mix, and complicate the matter further? Wait for evolution to solve the problem?
Yes, part of this is true. But it's only recently that we have been aware of this in a major way. Steps can certainly be made to begin reversing this. Recognizing the problems are crucial to fixing them. By making these things more important to the public debate we could all benefit. It's bad but not hopeless.
Originally posted by soficrow
You are misinformed.
Life expectancy increased dramatically in the 20th century, especially in developed nations. Life expectancy at birth in the United States in 1901 was 49 years. At the end of the century it was 77 years, an increase of 57%. Similar gains have been enjoyed throughout the world. Life expectancy in India and the People's Republic of China was around 40 years at midcentury. At century's close it had risen to around 63 years. These gains were due largely to the eradication and control of numerous infectious diseases and to non-sustainable advances in agricultural technology (such as chemical fertilizers).
Did You Know?
Life expectancy worldwide has risen on average by 4 months each year since 1970.
Infant mortality rates fell from 80 per 1000 live births in 1980, to 54 per 1000 in 1998.
Women tend to outlive men by 5 to 8 years in the countries with the highest life expectancies, but by only 0 to 3 years in countries where life expectancy is low.
Originally posted by looking4truth
Originally posted by soficrow
You are misinformed.
Actually no, no I'm not misinformed at all.
...As for the article about obiesity and the rise of wieght loss supplements........
Evolution and the environment, not just gluttony, has led to a global obesity pandemic, with an estimated 1.5 billion people overweight -- more than the number of undernourished people -- an obesity conference was told on Monday. ...The mounting epidemic of obesity in children would see many die before their parents, said Kate Steinbeck, co-chair of the 10th International Congress on Obesity in Sydney. ..."This is the first generation in history where children may die before their parents," Steinbeck told the conference.
Steinbeck said fighting obesity was not simply a matter of people eating less and exercising more, but discovering environmental and genetic contributors to obesity. ..."We know this is not about gluttony - it is the interaction of heredity and environment,"
Originally posted by soficrow
I have a problem with this definition. ...By (lowered/lessened) quality of life I am referring to the current pandemic of chronic disease - and the fact that younger and younger people are suffering so-called "age-related" diseases.
This pandemic results from contamination of the macro-environment, causing contamination of micro-environment - and disease.
...We are talking synthetic chemicals, unpredictable compounds, and dynamic interractions - never mind the effects of unregulated nanotech.
So what do we do to fix it? Add more crud to the mix, and complicate the matter further? Wait for evolution to solve the problem?
Originally posted by sardion2000
The current regime of sue first, ask questions later, has not had the desired effect in getting these companies to clean up their act.
A general amnesty from lawsuits is needed, and in return, the industry will open up it's doors to outside inspectors and will be allowed to apply for low interest loans to start to clean up their act. We gotta give them incentives to clean up their act, not give them incentives to move more and more of their operations offshore where the regulations is lacking.
I propose that all of us concerned, start "gaming" the Free Market to our own advantage.
As I understand the history, lawsuits are the fall-back position - the only avenue left - because industry did NOT act responsibly, or clean up their act or messes.
imo - that's exactly how we got in this mess. International corporations convinced us we could have a piece of the pie too - and we bought into it. But our piece will never be very big - or clean.
Originally posted by sardion2000
imo - that's exactly how we got in this mess. International corporations convinced us we could have a piece of the pie too - and we bought into it. But our piece will never be very big - or clean.
Intent is what counts.
We need more Entrepreneurs and Innovators, not more sue happy Doomers, Fear mongers, and Pompous Self Righteous Lecturers.
We need people who are willing to take risks in trying to compete with the big boys. Look to Silicon Valley for inspiration or look to Gaviotas for inspiration, both those communities have a culture of Garage-based engineering using only whats available on hand. THAT is whats going to save us, not Government regulations or Class Action Lawsuits.