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posted on Oct, 24 2006 @ 11:16 PM
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Originally posted by tribaltrip
, , im sure someone would have got hardcore evidence,
well i geuss well never know till that hard core evidence arrives
tell how u gonna find some1 who can prove without a doubt there isn't a base at the deepest point in the ocean ! Some facts on the subject : deepest point :Challenger Deep in the Mariana Trench is the deepest point in Earth's oceans. The bottom there is 10,924 meters (35,840 feet) below sea level. pressure at that point is:8 tons per square inch, it’s the equivalent of one person trying to hold 50 jumbo jets! don't u guys think it would be fairly easy 2 hide a base there compared 2 what some ppl say up here like there is a moon base and stuff ?




posted on Oct, 25 2006 @ 12:09 AM
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They have put deep sea submersibles down the mariana trench & challenger deep iirc. Pretty sure i saw footage of mostly barren landscape. Not to say something isnt down there. I wouldnt be hiding at the actual deepest point if i were an advanced race, sooner or later someone's gonna try & look there just because of what it is. kinda like building a secret base at summit of everest.



posted on Oct, 25 2006 @ 02:18 AM
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The Burmuda Triangle has had a lot of strange activity over the years.
Maybe that's one place to look for USOs.



posted on Oct, 25 2006 @ 05:56 AM
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There are also many underwater caverns in our oceans.some of them could be home to some other life form.I read somewhere that a US nuclear sub was lost off the coast of California searching an underwater cavern.I believe it was the USS Scorpian.I'll try to find a link.



posted on Oct, 25 2006 @ 06:44 AM
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What about google earth? You can see the entire sea-bed without water. Obviously you can't see into the depths of the trenches but surely it means the satellites responsible can see into them. Or does it?



posted on Oct, 25 2006 @ 09:29 AM
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Originally posted by thebox
What about google earth? You can see the entire sea-bed without water. Obviously you can't see into the depths of the trenches but surely it means the satellites responsible can see into them. Or does it?
Lets imagine their do they Way above top secret stuff in a underwater base, don't u think they would't censor it 2 like they do with Area 51? And i think most of the project who did put the deepest points on the map are government funded!!



posted on Oct, 25 2006 @ 09:32 AM
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Semperfi221 please excuse my delay to your invitation to this thread. I did not get a chance to see the specials on TV so I don't know what they covered. I don't know very much about uso's except according to an alleged former NASA employee, "The U.S. Navy has for several years been making regular reconnaissance-observation trips to monitor alien 'bubble-cities' on the ocean floor.

I think that the 2 Nuclear subs lost by the Navy, Thresher on April 10, 1963 and the Scorpion on May 22, 1968 were lost in circumstances about which the public was never informed. At least one of those subs was on a mission to explore the sea under the California, Nevada, Utah area and entered somewhere along the coast of California. I believe it was the Scorpion. The sub apparently got disoriented and was never heard from again.

One of the interesting areas in Nevada, which I pass every few months driving up to Reno is the Naval Undersea Warfare Training Center in Hawthorne on the edge of Walker Lake. Walker lake has been receding for years and is very shallow. So its unlikely that even the smallest Navy submarine could deploy in the lake. Maybe "Undersea Warfare Training" refers only to SEAL training, in which case Walker Lake would certainly be deep enough. And there must be a very good reason the Navy put its "Undersea Warfare Training Center' in the middle of the Nevada desert. They don't try to hide it. There is a very nice sign right on the highway just outside Hawthorne.

But here is the interesting thing. At least 2 different sources have told me that there is submarine access from Lake Hawthorne to the Pacific Ocean. Seems unlikely, but I have seen much stranger claims proven out.

Sorry I can't be more help on the subject of USO's.



posted on Oct, 25 2006 @ 09:36 AM
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When you say they can not be in the Mariana Trench because of the pressure etc.


You must remember you are dealing with life you know nothing of. The ships have no problem and as for the Grey's they can not breathe the air up here because there is to much oxygen. This is exactly where they can survive here on Earth.

Mariana Trench, off of Peru, the Solomon Islands etc. etc. heck they actually own more of the Earth then us anyways.



[edit on 25-10-2006 by observe50]



posted on Oct, 25 2006 @ 09:47 AM
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Lets imagine their do they Way above top secret stuff in a underwater base, don't u think they would't censor it 2 like they do with Area 51? And i think most of the project who did put the deepest points on the map are government funded!!


Of course it's censored, my point is someone is able to see into those depths. Maybe this is how man discovered whatever lives down there in the first place, if there is anything. It's all speculation.



posted on Oct, 25 2006 @ 10:08 AM
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There have always been UFO sighting events connected with the water- rivers, lakes, oceans. Any conceivable vehicle that has motive power providing the performance and abilities seen in the sky should have no problem in H2o. Any engine that functions in a closed loop system which is not dependent on ingesting atmospheric air could propel it.



posted on Oct, 25 2006 @ 10:38 AM
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NASA does their EVA training in a HUGE/DEEP pool that owned by JSC Houston, I've been in the building the pool is in and obviously saw the pool/tank itself. It was featured in the movie with oil rig guys who go to space and blow the huge meteor on a collision course with Earth that had the great Aerosmith song in it.

The point being, that water is similar enough to space, in as much as it has no breathable air and buoyancy is similar to weightlessness that NASA finds it a good personnel training/equipment testing environment.

That being said it certainly seems logical that any vehicle that could survive space could handle being under the sea assuming it could tolerate great pressure which it would incur under the sea.

I have crossed the Pacific Ocean 4 times, dived several hundred hours and never saw anything unusual out there but the Ngulu Reef is quite site with the high and dry Japanese freighters just sitting there. I've spent much time (days at a stretch) on the various Marianas Islands (named after the trench) and didn't see anything there either. Diving Truk lagoon is worth anyone's time and money as is diving the Tokai Maru Shipwreck and many other awesome sites on Guam.


Springer...



posted on Oct, 25 2006 @ 10:53 AM
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Originally posted by Springer
It was featured in the movie with oil rig guys who go to space and blow the huge meteor on a collision course with Earth that had the great Aerosmith song in it.


o0o yes...

armageddon (imdb)...





posted on Oct, 25 2006 @ 11:14 AM
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Originally posted by Springer
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That being said it certainly seems logical that any vehicle that could survive space could handle being under the sea assuming it could tolerate great pressure which it would incur under the sea.

I have crossed the Pacific Ocean 4 times, dived several hundred hours and never saw anything unusual out there but the Ngulu Reef is quite site with the high and dry Japanese freighters just sitting there. I've spent much time (days at a stretch) on the various Marianas Islands (named after the trench) and didn't see anything there either. Diving Truk lagoon is worth anyone's time and money as is diving the Tokai Maru Shipwreck and many other awesome sites on Guam.


Springer...
What if they saw on their sonar that ter was a ship above them and made the decision 2 go up somewhere else? if they stay deep enough till they leave your line of sight, u would't notice! whats the pressure in space ??



posted on Oct, 25 2006 @ 12:06 PM
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Originally posted by johnlear

I think that the 2 Nuclear subs lost by the Navy, Thresher on April 10, 1963 and the Scorpion on May 22, 1968 were lost in circumstances about which the public was never informed. At least one of those subs was on a mission to explore the sea under the California, Nevada, Utah area and entered somewhere along the coast of California. I believe it was the Scorpion. The sub apparently got disoriented and was never heard from again.


Thresher was lost off the coast of New England during sea trials. Scorpion was lost in the N. Atlantic south of the Azores while on its way home from a mediterranean
deployment. The best evidence indicates it was the victim of a hot run in the torpedo room.



posted on Oct, 25 2006 @ 12:12 PM
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Well considering Grays have an aquatic creature quality about them id have to say ya never know.

Im willing to bet their noggens feel very much lke the noggen of a dolphin..what ya bet?



posted on Oct, 25 2006 @ 12:25 PM
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Thank you jon for posting, and everyone for posting, its important to remember, that i belive we are not the sole people on this planet infact it scares me to think that, but i do, moon bases underwater sea bases, it worries me that if we piss them off were going to be wiped out



posted on Oct, 25 2006 @ 12:39 PM
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Originally posted by Schaden




Thresher was lost off the coast of New England during sea trials. Scorpion was lost in the N. Atlantic south of the Azores while on its way home from a mediterranean
deployment. The best evidence indicates it was the victim of a hot run in the torpedo room.



Thank you for reviewing the Navy cover stories with us Schaden.



posted on Oct, 25 2006 @ 04:00 PM
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Jumpin' Gee-hossaphats! is everything a conspiracy?!
The USS Thresher, 133 people die in a accident witnessed
by others, a vehicle sent down to recover facts and debris
and again, it was in another ocean and it was chasing aliens.

I'm sorry Mr. Lear, but my father served in the Navy and
had spoken highly of sailors in peace time and war and I
find it a little unfair to say that the acciudent didn't happen
as said without proof.

I enjoy this site and I know we usually use words like 'imagine'
and phrases such as 'just like the movie...' I endure these
things because people have a point of view and are trying to
express themselves, but a flippant remark about cover stories
when people died in the service of protecting one's country,
I think is insensitive.
I apologise if I've hurt your feelings, but I believe when it
comes to anything that involves deaths, we should tread with
respect.



posted on Oct, 25 2006 @ 04:22 PM
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Its a Forum where people can express there views, Mr lear may have alot of views all of wich are open to discussion but there is just to much coinsodence to just look over things as false !!!!! sort of like law innosent till proven guilty



posted on Oct, 25 2006 @ 05:28 PM
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Originally posted by semperfi221
Its a Forum where people can express there views, Mr lear may have alot of views all of wich are open to discussion but there is just to much coinsodence to just look over things as false !!!!! sort of like law innosent till proven guilty


Here's actual photographs of the Thresher @8400ft down, 220 miles off the coast of Cape Cod, MA.. Even though they were taken by the Navy. I'd say that's where it sunk.


www.history.navy.mil...



Starboard side of the USS Thresher sail with portions of the hull number '593' visible." Photographed from a deep-sea vehicle deployed from USNS Mizar (T-AGOR-11). The original photograph bears the date October 1964.





"This brass pipe, with the inscription: 'JO 10 ... 3-O-5091-05; DM 263-109-61; PL-1862791 PC.75; 1.050 Brass Pipe; 593 Boat', was recovered by the bathyscaph Trieste during the second series of dives in the search for USS Thresher. The nuclear powered submarine which sank April 10 some 220 miles east of Cape Cod had the hull number '593'."



Here's a photo of the Scorpion. Again, in the Atlantic, at a depth of @ 10,000ft & @ 400 miles off the coast of the Azores. These photos were taken in 1986 by Woods Hole Oceanographic Institute. The same guys that found the Titanic. Not the US Navy. It's there also. . .

www.history.navy.mil...


"Atlantic Ocean (August 1986)....Depth 10,000 feet, 400 miles southwest of the Azores; view of the bow section of the nuclear-powered attack submarine USS Scorpion (SSN-589) where it rests on the ocean floor. Note the forward messenger bouy cavity and escape trunk access hatches."
Quoted from the caption released with this photo in 1995. The view was taken by Woods Hole Oceanographic Institute.




Pretty strong evidence don't you think?

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