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Originally posted by devilwasp
Knights what right do you have though to polute OUR air, not just your own, but the entire bars air with smoke?
I for one dont mind smokers since a lot of my family smoke but I wouldnt touch it with a twelve foot barge pole, that stuff does disgusting things to your insides and I want to actually have lungs and not breathe through a machine because I smoke.
Originally posted by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf
What right do YOU have to tell anyone what they can and cant do with their own establishments?
And I find it laughable that youre going on about "health and safety" in a friggin PUB. A place where alcohol, a drug more toxic to the body than heroin, is served. A place where binge drinking, vomiting, fighting, and hooking up with unknown sex partners is normal. Yeah, as we all know, pubs are a place where we expect salubrious atmospheres and good health. Get friggin real.
Then don't smoke. But can the holier than thou crap.
My mom is dying from lung disease. It is a horrid way to go. My grandma died from it to.
However, by far the worst way to go is from liver disease. Ever been around people dying from alcoholic disease or liver diseases? Its FAR worse than smoking, is slow, painful, and vile. You punk up your liver when you die. And because your liver is shot, you really are limited in painkillers.
Not to mention the numerous alcohol related deaths and injuries. You ever been to an emergency room on a friday or saturday night?
So.................lets ban alcohol too. Yeah, that willo take care of it.
Its all about personal choice and freewill.
Originally posted by Silk
that a thread starting about limitations on liberty and rights should turn on its own head and become a forum for those who wish to limit rights again.
As for the ID test in pubs - sorry just cant see it working - the technology is a little too fragile to cope with most of the publicans and punters i know.
Originally posted by Silk
just clarify here -
1) The release does not mention the NUMBER of Pubs involved in the initial trial.
2) It does however mention that Yoevill are THINKING of testing for TEN premises.
Oh and from recollection there are more that Ten pubs in that town.
This does not make the system "In Place" but rather "Under Consideration" in my reading
The scheme has been up and running in Yeovil, Somerset, where 6,000 pubgoers and clubbers have signed up
Just to add - take a look at the source of the info - and also the company promoting the technology - I'm not sure they are actually the size the Home office would require to undertake a national implementation (Ie EDS, Siemens etc etc)
[edit on 27-10-2006 by Silk]