Another Media cover up? 300 US soldiers die?

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posted on Oct, 23 2006 @ 09:08 AM
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Sorry if this has been posted before but I could not find anything on it. Supposedly a Munitions depot was destroyed and we lost 300 soldiers and much of its armour and transport.

libertyforum.org
This site has a list of all of the soldiers who were killed in alphabetical order.

and

sfbay.craigslist.org...

Has anyone else heard about this? I remember hearing about a fire there a couple weeks ago but no one reported on any casualties.

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[edit on 23-10-2006 by DontTreadOnMe]




posted on Oct, 23 2006 @ 09:26 AM
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I never heard that 300 soldiers died, or of a cover up, but here is a video made by a soldier of the explosion



Edit: fixed mistake


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posted on Oct, 23 2006 @ 09:35 AM
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Not 30, pstiffy. 300. I'm looking for further confirmation on this story. My husband mentioned it in the last few days and now I can't find the sources he read...

Still looking...



posted on Oct, 23 2006 @ 09:36 AM
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There are no reports of civilian casualties around the area nor were there any American casualties from the ammo dump explosions. Too big to cover something up like this.



posted on Oct, 23 2006 @ 09:45 AM
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Originally posted by deltaboy
There are no reports of civilian casualties around the area nor were there any American casualties from the ammo dump explosions. Too big to cover something up like this.



Really, this is something that I think the government would try to cover-up. I personally don't believe the story however, the strategy and tactics are being re-considered -- so who knows. It's extremely difficult to find any information regarding this. What is strange is the list of soldiers names that accompanies the article.



posted on Oct, 23 2006 @ 09:49 AM
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Nothing is too big to cover up.

Actually I remember this explosion few weeks ago, it was breaking news on CNN, like the sky in Baghdad was illuminated as if in the airstrikes in 2003. It did not look good. But as usual - we were not there, so we have no clue whatsoever what happened.

Could be 300, 30, or 3 soldiers dead.

All we know is that we don't know.



posted on Oct, 23 2006 @ 09:55 AM
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Here's the official story, claiming no casualties:
BBC News



The fire, which set off a series of blasts and explosions at the base, caused no casualties or injuries.


No casualties OR injuries... Interesting. Was no one guarding this base?

Indymedia



Nine Huge American Transport Planes Unload Casualties From Devastating Strike

In a bulletin posted at 2am Makkah time before dawn Wednesday morning, Mafkarat al-Islam reported its correspondent as saying that the US military hospital at the massive American-occupied air base in al-Habbaniyah had begun to receive dead and wounded personnel from the devastating Resistance rocket assault on the US Falcon arsenal in the southern Baghdad suburb of ad-Durah. Just before midnight Tuesday, the Iraqi Resistance fired barrages of Katyusha and Grad rockets into the arsenal, the largest such facility in occupied Iraq, causing the ordnance to begin to explode. Western news reports stated that the blasts continued for hours lighting up the nighttime sky over Baghdad.



300+ Casualties



The loud blasts could be heard across the Iraqi capital
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Free Arab Voice

Wednesday, 11 October 2006.

· Nine huge transport planes ferry American casualties to al-Habbaniyah airbase from devastating Tuesday night Resistance strike on US Falcon arsenal, indicating heavy American losses. US claims "no casualties," but Iraqi regime evacuates 90 injured puppet troops to ar-Ramadi hospital.

· Remains of US Falcon arsenal described as "burned out wasteland with no buildings." US helicopters continue to dump water on site Wednesday to extinguish last flames. Puppet officials estimate US losses could exceed US$1 billion. Iraqi puppet army orders two regiments to move to southern Baghdad to fill gap left by decimated American troops.


Edit: This Site claims to have a video of the attack.

Dozens of Casualties



“The (American) forces are sure that two of the Iraqi translators who were working for them leaked information and gave particulars to the “insurgents” (Iraqi Resistance). They (the Americans) have suspicions regarding a third translator who left the base one day before the attack and never joined up again.”

Quds Press noted that although the American authorities reported no casualties in the attack, the Iraqi source, who asked not to be identified, said that “dozens” of American soldiers were killed in the explosions that rocked the arsenal for hours on Tuesday-Wednesday night. The source said that the US military have in their custody the bodies of six Iraqi translators who were killed in the blasts, and the Americans were refusing to release those remains to their families for reasons that remain unknown.



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posted on Oct, 23 2006 @ 10:03 AM
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that first explosion looked like a nuke to me... the shockwave knocked the cameraman off his feet... I wonder how far they were away, I am guessing a fair distance cause they stayed in the open. That first explosion was really big and I wouldn't have wanted to be close to where it was...

So they say no casualties? Well I say fracking liers...



posted on Oct, 23 2006 @ 10:05 AM
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Thank you for posting this as I just heard about it moments ago and couldn't find anything on the net about it. Disturbing to say the least. I can't believe they have been able to keep it as quite as they have.



posted on Oct, 23 2006 @ 10:06 AM
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Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic


Nine Huge American Transport Planes Unload Casualties From Devastating Strike

In a bulletin posted at 2am Makkah time before dawn Wednesday morning, Mafkarat al-Islam reported its correspondent as saying that the US military hospital at the massive American-occupied air base in al-Habbaniyah had begun to receive dead and wounded personnel from the devastating Resistance rocket assault on the US Falcon arsenal in the southern Baghdad suburb of ad-Durah. Just before midnight Tuesday, the Iraqi Resistance fired barrages of Katyusha and Grad rockets into the arsenal, the largest such facility in occupied Iraq, causing the ordnance to begin to explode. Western news reports stated that the blasts continued for hours lighting up the nighttime sky over Baghdad.


You realize that Mafkarat al-Islam is a propaganda machine for the insurgents? Look how they say puppet regime and so on. And its past history of other reports on their lies. I remember they reported from insurgency sources that they killed a hundred American soldiers in one day some time ago. Very unreliable.


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posted on Oct, 23 2006 @ 10:14 AM
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And more...

KAVKAZ Center



The US military hospital at the air base al-Habbaniyah had begun to receive dead and wounded personnel from the devastating Mujahideen rocket assault on the US Falcon arsenal in the southern Baghdad suburb of ad-Durah. Just before midnight Tuesday, the Mujahideen fired barrages of Katyusha and Grad rockets into the arsenal, the largest such facility in occupied Iraq, causing the ordnance to begin to explode. Western news reports stated that the blasts continued for hours lighting up the nighttime sky over Baghdad, the Al Basrah reported.

Three huge US transport aircraft emblazoned with the red cross had flown into the base, and casualties were being unloaded and sent into the hospital at the al-Habbaniyah base, located some 70km west of Baghdad.
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the US had used 13 huge military transport trucks to haul completely charred American armored vehicles out of the remains of the American Falcon base. The US forces hid the burnt wreckage of the vehicles behind the vegetable wholesale market known as the ‘Ulwat ar-Rashid Commercial Market.

Witnesses reported that about 15 minutes before sunset Wednesday, the procession of vehicles under US helicopter air cover and escorted by Humvees took the wrecked vehicles, estimated to number at least 22 to the back wall of the ‘Ulwah. The Americans then set up a guard post to control access to the wrecked vehicles.


deltaboy, I hear you, but I think this deserves further investigation.



posted on Oct, 23 2006 @ 10:17 AM
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Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
And more...

KAVKAZ Center



The US military hospital at the air base al-Habbaniyah had begun to receive dead and wounded personnel from the devastating Mujahideen rocket assault on the US Falcon arsenal in the southern Baghdad suburb of ad-Durah. Just before midnight Tuesday, the Mujahideen fired barrages of Katyusha and Grad rockets into the arsenal, the largest such facility in occupied Iraq, causing the ordnance to begin to explode. Western news reports stated that the blasts continued for hours lighting up the nighttime sky over Baghdad, the Al Basrah reported.

Three huge US transport aircraft emblazoned with the red cross had flown into the base, and casualties were being unloaded and sent into the hospital at the al-Habbaniyah base, located some 70km west of Baghdad.
...
the US had used 13 huge military transport trucks to haul completely charred American armored vehicles out of the remains of the American Falcon base. The US forces hid the burnt wreckage of the vehicles behind the vegetable wholesale market known as the ‘Ulwat ar-Rashid Commercial Market.

Witnesses reported that about 15 minutes before sunset Wednesday, the procession of vehicles under US helicopter air cover and escorted by Humvees took the wrecked vehicles, estimated to number at least 22 to the back wall of the ‘Ulwah. The Americans then set up a guard post to control access to the wrecked vehicles.


deltaboy, I hear you, but I think this deserves further investigation.


Thats great, however that source link ain't working for me, not to mention this source you posted up is just rephrasing the previous source that I just quoted from that propaganda machine.



posted on Oct, 23 2006 @ 10:21 AM
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Originally posted by deltaboy
You realize that Mafkarat al-Islam is a propaganda machine for the insurgents?

Who Are The INSURGENTS?



Look how they say puppet regime and so on.

Is the Iraqi goverment NOT a puppet-regime?

Maybe a Muppet-regime?



posted on Oct, 23 2006 @ 10:27 AM
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Originally posted by Souljah
Who Are The INSURGENTS?


Former Baathists members, former Saddam's Fedayeen fighters, Sunnis who are removed from power and so on.


Is the Iraqi goverment NOT a puppet-regime?

Maybe a Muppet-regime?


Since they represent the Shiite population and not Sunnis, its understandable they called it the puppet regime.


[edit on 23-10-2006 by deltaboy]



posted on Oct, 23 2006 @ 10:36 AM
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Originally posted by deltaboy
Former Baathists members, former Saddam's Fedayeen fighters, Sunnis who are removed from power and so on.

Funny how you don't count in the Shia Militias, which also spread death, destruction, torture, perform kidnappigs, assassinations, mutilations and other "Stuff" considered to be kind of on a list of a daily jobs that a "Terrorist" must do.

I guess they can do that now huh?

It is their time for REVENGE ey?



posted on Oct, 23 2006 @ 10:40 AM
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YOu guys are gettting a bit off track here, things are starting to get all nit picky and political and I hate it when threads get hijacked and filled with this sort of thing.

Remember people have come there to read about the topic, not about you guys debating about iraqi politics...



posted on Oct, 23 2006 @ 10:42 AM
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Originally posted by Souljah

Funny how you don't count in the Shia Militias, which also spread death, destruction, torture, perform kidnappigs, assassinations, mutilations and other "Stuff" considered to be kind of on a list of a daily jobs that a "Terrorist" must do.


O yeah thanks for reminding me. Forgot to include the Shiites.


I guess they can do that now huh?

It is their time for REVENGE ey?


Since the Shiites were in power, they pretty much ain't so much giving resistance to American and British "occupation" pretty weird eh? And since the Sunnis are fighting and killing since they are removed from power, the Shiites have shown much restrain in any response. But since the attacks on Shiites had increased and its being continued daily, its bound to have some Shiites returning the favor. Think of it as the Black Panthers in America versus the KKK and other white supremacists in response to attacks on African-Americans.

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[edit on 23-10-2006 by deltaboy]



posted on Oct, 23 2006 @ 10:48 AM
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Global Research

"The resistance attacked Camp Falcon south of Baghdad. This camp is considered as the most important munition camp. The explosions in the camp continued for three hours and was transmitted in direct on Al Jazeera. The resistance filmed the explosions and diffused them on the internet.

Iraq for ever of Fadhil Badrani translated the information on US Pentagon site which says that there were 5000 soldiers in this camp. But the Pentagon the same night declared that there were only 100 soldiers. This was evident is to hide the losses.

The resistance in Falluja and Habaniyah that there were 9 gros porteurs planes landed in Habaniyah the same night where there is a US military hospital.

Iraqis says that the attack costed US 1 million dollars, many hundred deaths and the conviction that controlling Baghdad plan is but a mirage."



Iraqi Resistance rockets blast into biggest American arsenal in Iraq

Iraqi Resistance rockets blast into biggest American arsenal in Iraq setting off unprecedented explosions, illuminating Baghdad sky just before midnight Tuesday

Nine huge American transport planes unload casualties from devastating Resistance strike on US Falcon Base in Baghdad just before midnight Tuesday, indicating heavy American losses

US ammo dump ablaze in Iraq

Insurgents Hit U.S. Base in Baghdad

Munitions dump blown in Baghdad. Nobody talking

Resistance mortars pound US troops working to clear out ruined Falcon Forward Base on Thursday night

Devastating Attack Destroys US Falcon Base

Ammo Dump Explosions Investigation

Falcon Ammo Dump Destruction Photos

Devastating Attack Destroys US Falcon Base Striking A Severe Blow To US Forces

No reported casualties at Camp Falcon, eh?

Video: Tactical nuke explodes in Iraq?

Mortar causes Baghdad base firež

US/UK BASES IN IRAQ, Part II. The South : Falcon-Al-Sarq, Tallil, Shaibah


But what do WE know - we weren't even there!

Judging by the photos after the explosion, the place looks pretty wiped out.

No casualties ey?



[edit on 23/10/06 by Souljah]



posted on Oct, 23 2006 @ 10:51 AM
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Originally posted by pstiffy
I never heard that 30 soldiers died, or of a cover up, but here is a video made by a soldier of the video.google.ca



Pstiffy, that same video was ALSO posted {submitted to Google} on Jan. 15, 2006. I've been told (elsewhere) that it's an old vid of an Iraqi dump filmed during the invasion.

Notice the two seperate url's, I took out your tags in the quote above.

video.google.com...


Someone goofed putting this little scam together.


This Arab video of the night of the fire looks more like it. (From the Global Security link above):

Video: Tactical nuke explodes in Iraq?
video.google.com...



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posted on Oct, 23 2006 @ 10:53 AM
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I would like to know where they got all the names from ?.

A huge list of apparently dead service personal, so did someone make up those names?





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