US Muslim TV - Stumping for Democrats

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Muslim TV is spouting anti-Jewish statements and calling for all American Muslims to vote DEMOCRAT. Hmmmm .. wonder why. I'm sure we all have our opinions on that.

More information here -
news.newsmax.com...

Apparently the Muslim TV claims 2 million viewers and got started in Buffalo NY. It's called 'Bridges TV' and claims to want to make inroads to friendships between Islamics and non-islamics .. but the shows that it is putting on the air say otherwise.





[edit on 10/23/2006 by FlyersFan]

I can understand, and support, their decision to encourage voting for a particular party. But the anti-Jewish statements are way out of line.

No matter what the faults of the American electoral system may be, racist statements are not tolerated. The next step to this crap is to denounce a candidate because of his/her religion.

These people need a lesson in American politics.

Is not worse than anything that is happening in America today.

People tend to forget that many muslins are American and not necessary of Arab heritage.,

So it will be interesting to find out who are the ones that are anti-Jew, the Arab ones or our own American home brand.

Now the article is criticizing the influences of Jewish lobbyist I agree with that, it is a very power group that help shape our policies in Washington to benefit and favor Israel, they have money and that is what our politicians in Washington are hungry for, they sell their soul to the devil itself if is for the right amount.

So is more to the story that meet the eyes.

Is all politics with all its dirty glory.

Originally posted by marg6043
Is not worse than anything that is happening in America today.

Another member of the "two wrongs somehow make it right" crowd comes forward. NBD. It's not worse, in your opinion, than anything else going on in America right now so we should just look the other way? Don't see you or any others who are like-minded looking the other way on the issues you don't like.

The attacks on Jews is just flat out wrong here in the U.S. And it's so telling that the "religion of peace" can't even control their real thinking and agenda long enough to put on a TV show supposedly to "bridge" the differences between the "peaceful" muslims and the rest of humanity. BTW, ever hear of acting? Nope, can't even pretend (as in acting out a script to support the pretense of your shows). "Peaceful" muslims got to attack those pesky Jews any and every chance they get.

Still think we should just let that go? Smells (a lot) of hypocricy to me.


[edit on 10/25/2006 by centurion1211]

Originally posted by centurion1211

Another member of the "two wrongs somehow make it right" crowd comes forward.

You most be blind if you are not seen what is going on in our country right now, masses are influenced to support whatever is deemed by our political leaders right to support while anything else is deemed not right.

I read the article again . . . I don't see anything calling for violence against Jews.

Now do you disagree that Washington is full of corrupted politicians that sell their souls to the highest bidder?

Well is very well known that Jews has very powerful lobbyist just like anybody that has enough money to influence our corrupted congress.

So I don't see your point here.

Originally posted by marg6043
Is not worse than anything that is happening in America today.

People tend to forget that many muslins are American and not necessary of Arab heritage.,

So it will be interesting to find out who are the ones that are anti-Jew, the Arab ones or our own American home brand.

I don't care where they were born - why does it matter? They are trying to import the mideast brand of hatred for Jews into America and those attitudes are not welcome here.

What's the difference between this and someone stumping to get the black vote by telling them that the 'rich, elite' control everything?

And criticizing the Jewish Lobby? Here's the quote:

“I have news for the Muslim community. All American politicians are in the pocket of the Jewish lobby today because they control a lot of money, and they spend a lot of money in politics.

That's not a criticism, that's an opinion and there's a lot of truth in it. Many American politics are in the pocket of the Jewish Lobby and they do control and spend a lot of money. That's just the truth. What's the criticism?

I can see already the outrage when the most majority minority growing group in the US Latinos specially illegals start to support and back up more Latino influences in congress.

Then what? they will push as they do now for more Latino immigrant friendly laws.

What!!!!!

People are going to call for the none welcome mind set of Spanish heritage?

Guess what people America doesn't belong to Americans of one particular race anymore.

So depending who has more powerful lobbyist that is who our nation is going to head on.

Wake up!!!!!!!! and smell the corrupted government we have.

Is out of control.

And if the muslin American community wants to influence American the can just like Jews, Latinos, Africans, Asian and anybody else with the right tools and money.

Thanks BH for that link.

Many people are still living in the imaginary land of what use to be USA.

Originally posted by marg6043

Guess what people America doesn't belong to Americans of one particular race anymore.

First, this thread is not about your vision of a so-called "corrupted government". Please try to stay on topic.

Truthfully, it never did belong to one race - I think we're really talking about ethnicities here, and not races. The difference between then and now that many fail to grasp is that originally America was a melting pot of ethnicities. People came here "different" and then "melted" into being Americans. Now, each group is trying to move to America, but stay a mexican or a chinese, for example. Their loyalty never shifts to the U.S. No, they continue to fly the flag of the country they came from, speak the language of that country, live in ghettos (true meaning of this word - look it up) Surely you can see the difference, and extrapolate how that huge change might affect this country - and not for the better IMO.

Multi-ethnicity yes, multi-culturalism, no!

Many people are still living in the imaginary land of what use to be USA.

IF what you say here is true, can you really fault people for wanting it to be the way it was when they felt comfortable living here? Can you really fault them for wanting to stem the torrent of illegals coming here with no intention of contributing anything to try and make this country better? If you cannot put yourself in their shoes and understand this, then you are truly the one who cannot see.

[edit on 10/25/2006 by centurion1211]

[edit on 10/25/2006 by centurion1211]

Originally posted by centurion1211
First, this thread is not about your vision of a so-called "corrupted government". Please try to stay on topic.

Its part of the topic my friend, corruption, lobbyist, anybody than can pay a politician in Washington = Corruption Jews paying lobbyist and muslin ouraged to that.

Plain and simple.

IF what you say here is true, can you really fault people for wanting it to be the way it was when they felt comfortable living here?

Yes that is true but since when People's wants and wishes are the priority of our corrupted government and politicians in congress.

Centurion you are a smart man look at our system of government they are not for us anymore but for the interest that keep them in power.

They don't care about borders because it benefits them and they don't care about you and me and the regular Joe because we can not afford powerful lobbyist to influence policies to benefit us.

We supposedly elected them to work for us but even you have come to the realization that. . . is not so anymore.

[edit on 25-10-2006 by marg6043]

Originally posted by FlyersFan
anti-Jewish statements

Originally posted by jsobecky
But the anti-Jewish statements are way out of line.
...
racist statements are not tolerated.

What "anti-Jewish" and "racist" statements? Really. What statements am I missing?

Originally posted by centurion1211
The attacks on Jews is just flat out wrong

Which attack on Jews? C'mon, you guys. Where's the attack?

The original poster and the article mentioned attacks on Jews.

As for the rest, c'mon and take your blinders off. The muslims here and abroad don't give a rat's behind for the demcrat party or it's candidates except that they think maybe they can help cancel the WOT. This means muslims pure and simple hope to play on democrat pacifism, appeasement philosophy, 'do anything as long as it's against Bush' policy to further their agenda. They are trying to use democrats as dupes and fools, and from what I see in the news and here, muslims may well be successful in doing so. Think not? Think muslims will all of the sudden play nice if the democrats win congress or the white house in 2 years? Then remember that the attacks started over a decade ago - before any Bush was president. So, think again.

Yes, you don't like the current administration. Yes, you hope the democrats win congress and the white house in 2 years.

However, yes also it's big picture time people!

[edit on 10/25/2006 by centurion1211]

Originally posted by centurion1211
The original poster and the article mentioned attacks on Jews.

So did you. You said they're just flat out wrong, in fact. You've obviously made the judgment that there are attacks. And if you think there are attacks on Jews, I'd like to know what they are... Or are you just buying the sensationalism of the article in The Conservative Voice?

Without the sensationalism of "ATTACKS ON JEWS" this article falls flat on its face. There's nothing wrong with stumping for Democrats or Republicans and aiming that stumping at a group, such as blacks, women, young people, Christians or Muslims.

Welcome to American Politics. Where ya been?



[edit on 25-10-2006 by Benevolent Heretic]

But conveneintly for you, you also ignored the major part and issue of my post. I'll take that as that you are in tacit aggreement with what I've said, that you have no rebuttal to my contention that democrats are being played by muslims for dupes and fools.

Originally posted by centurion

Yes, you don't like the current administration. Yes, you hope the democrats win congress and the white house in 2 years.

However, yes also it's big picture time people!

Centurion American muslin are American also, many born Americans with or without Arabs root, nerveless they are Americans, by citizenship, birth right whatever.

They have their voice and they can use it anyway they want just like you or me as born American.

This not racism or attacks but rather pointing to the faults in our system.

It doesn't matter who is in the government Republicans or Democrats when it comes to corruption and sell out, they all serve the same master.

So I wonder why the outrage because of comment by American muslin, it is because is targeting democrats and supporting the votes for them or because its actually showing discontent with the Republicans in power and their links to lobbyist that happen to be Jews.

Is nothing more than politics.

It's for my side, so it's OK. I'm sorry, but that is such a short-sighted philosophy. What ever happend to strategic thinking and planning? Have you ever played a game such as chess, where you have to think what will happen several moves in advance based on the single move you are about to make.

IMO that is what's called for here - by everyone.

BTW, muslin is a type of cloth, muslims are a type of religion.

[edit on 10/25/2006 by centurion1211]

Originally posted by centurion

BTW, muslin is a type of cloth, Muslims are a type of religion.

[edit on 10/25/2006 by centurion]

You ae right, but it would have been different if it was Catholics doing the calls for votes? and complaining about Jewish lobbyist?

Will it still be seen as an attack against Jews?

It all depends on the way we see things and our believes. what we see Right or wrong and what we may agree with or not.

We have been played with Centurion.

reports “…in a recent interview, one of its [Bridges’ TV] hosts criticized the “Jewish lobby” in the U.S. and called on American Muslims to vote for Democrats in November” and host Conover stated: “I have news for the Muslim community. All American politicians are in the pocket of the Jewish lobby today because they control a lot of money, and they spend a lot of money in politics.

While lots of actual anti-semites will make similar statements, that statement in and of itself is hardly anti-semitic. There is an israeli lobby in the US, this is not controversial, and it does things like protecting israeli spies from prosecution. There are lots of other foreign lobbies in the US of course. But why does this in and of itself mean that the station is a front for murderous radical islam??

Also, why shouldn't muslims vote for democrats? its the right that is constantly calling them murderous radicals and threatening to export them en mass or round them all up. They'd be stupid to vote republican.

They are trying to import the mideast brand of hatred for Jews into America and those attitudes are not welcome here.

By noting that the israeli lobby influences the american political process???

Originally posted by centurion1211
But conveneintly for you, you also ignored the major part and issue of my post.

No I didn't ignore anything. If you group all Muslims as somehow supporting terrorism, that's your problem. I didn't ignore it, I just don't agree with it.

I'll take that as that you are in tacit aggreement with what I've said, that you have no rebuttal to my contention that democrats are being played by muslims for dupes and fools.

What's with this practice of taking something someone doesn't say and making it mean what you want it to mean? This isn't the first time I've seen this lame tactic.

Stuff as many words in my mouth as you like. People know how I feel on this issue. And that doesn't take away from the fact that none of you has answered my question... That's ok, though.

First of all, it's a stupid statement:

“I have news for the Muslim community. All American politicians are in the pocket of the Jewish lobby today because they control a lot of money, and they spend a lot of money in politics.

So if all politicians are in their pocket, why vote for Democrat's over Republicans?

Next, there is no reason to make reference to any race, religion, or ethnicity as a reason not to vote for someone. It is your right to do so, but it's not what people of goodwill do.

Would you tolerate these statements:

"Vote for Republicans because Native Americans own all those casinos thanks to the Democrats".

"Hispanics are ruining our country. They vote Democrat. If you are for America, vote Republican".