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Originally posted by Marlborough Red
-Yes the buildings fell FAST but, the huge dynamic loads due to the very large momentum of the upper floors falling were so great that they smashed through the lower floors very quickly.
* Quick enough to almost defy the laws of resistance and fall at the speed of gravity!!!!!!!!!!!!!
-The columns were not designed to carry these huge loads and they didn't provide much resistance.
* Of course! The 47 steel core Columns were so fragile they barely held up the bulding! Nonsense, these were the structural integrety of each tower, the core columns were designed to withstand mph 100+ hurricanes.
Originally posted by HankMcCoy
Originally posted by bsbray11
What I'm wondering is how long he stood over the shoulders of the guys doing the work to watch exactly what they were doing, and at what point they became annoyed with him.
I'm not saying they were planting explosives, or hooking up/activating detonators or whatever, necessarily, but the fact that people were around is no great shock. I just wonder how one can make such concrete statements unless they were up in the faces of those doing the actual work.
[edit on 23-10-2006 by bsbray11]
And on the reverse of that coin I can't understand how people that weren't even there can even speculate as to the intensions of the electricians in the building, yet every day I see someone rehashing the VERY tired electrician/explosive theory.
Not to point a finger, of course.
911 Truth is the new Alien Disclosure, as far as I can see. Just something new to blame on the government with speculation and conjecture. Heck, there is MORE evidence that the United States Government is hiding an Alien then there is evidence that they were involved in this plot.
Originally posted by JIMC5499
Don't even go into Thermite. I went to a Veteran's Day dinner last Saturday. My wife and I were seated at a table with an older couple. The man we were seated with spent 45 years working in the railroad industry. We were talking and got on the subject of the WTC collapse. He said that he got a laugh everytime someone on the news mentioned Thermite being used to cut the WTC's structure.
Originally posted by JIMC5499
Originally posted by Griff
I have and I still don't understand how the cores fell to the ground. Microscoping into themselves. What class did you take that taught this?
I believe the term is telescoping. It is real simple the cores can't. People keep wanting to treat the towers as a solid structure. They were not. They were an assembly of millions of parts. They failed when the joints were over loaded.
Originally posted by CameronFox
BSBRAY11,
I did some quick research on this gentleman, and read the transcript of the interview.
Originally posted by bsbray11
What do you mean if you find information on him? Are you just digging for any excuse to discredit him, or are you actually listening to what he's saying and considering it? Because if you're just digging for dirt then we're already having a problem: I'm looking at information while you're looking at people.
Originally posted by bsbray11
Don't base your conclusions on how many people are coming out man. Originally, NO engineers were going public. It was only after the NIST report that they started trickling out, and that's not considering the day-to-day reality for a professional engineer. It's not pouring over thousands of pages of a government study and then calling up an organization of conspiracy theorists. You'd have to be a real nerd to do that in your spare time, as well, without a genuine interest, something that snags you into the collapses to begin with. And you shouldn't assume they'd all come out with this stuff anyway; it's a good way to lose your job if you're employed with the wrong institution.
As nice as it would be for fresh discussion, I'm going to stop responding if the focus stays on the credibility of the engineers criticizing NIST and how many or few there are. Putting your faith into crowds of people rather than actual science is a good way to bandwagon yourself back into the naive masses.
[edit on 20-11-2006 by bsbray11]
Originally posted by CameronFox
The "scholars" are filling their website with lies and 1/2 truths.
My reasons behind looking at the credentials of ANYONE trying to go agasint the NIST report is obvious. Look at the credentials of the 125 NON GOVERNMENT engineers that did the NIST investigation. They are the BEST at what they do. Not perfect...but the best.
Originally posted by CameronFox
The "scholars" are filling their website with lies and 1/2 truths.
When your tooth hurts...would you call a PHD in American Literature? I don't think so....
Look at the credentials of the 125 NON GOVERNMENT engineers that did the NIST investigation.
Originally posted by CameronFox
I am also looking for information... i too want the TRUTH. But, I will make DAMNED sure that the people I get if from are LEGIT !
I hope you found my last post useful.