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Russian Film Admiral Byrd fighting Saucers

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posted on May, 23 2007 @ 02:45 PM
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Originally posted by Zaphod58
You have to look at the ways they supply the bases.


No what you have to look at is the BIG PICTURE... the landing of the super transports is just a small piece of the puzzle. NASA and Malin and ESA are all working on MARS mission projects down there... there is a massive cleanup in progress of contaminates from a Naval base that was there since 1956. Von Braun and team went down there...

There is a lot going on that needs to simply be put in context. Its easy to knock down a pin, but the whole picture is really very complicated..

Most of this is available at Brotherthebigs pages at Pegasus...

But here is the Antarctic chain of events for anyone interested... pay close attention to the words highlighted in red...

www.landoflegends.us...

Brotherthe bigs section with his research combined with Pegasus additions is here...

www.landoflegends.us...

This translation is a small part of the evidence we have collected, and since a lot of the documents are now past 50 years, a lot more will come out in the near future

[edit on 23-5-2007 by zorgon]




posted on May, 23 2007 @ 09:51 PM
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When you download from youtube or google you get file formats
incompatible with normal DVD Video burners for TV which require
vob files.

What the download pages do is advertise the free player for flv or avi
and try to sell you the DVD TV Movie burner.

The most compatible way to see once downloaded is to zip or torrent
the, VOB stands for DVD Video Object, VOB files since the computer and DVD player
will play the disk.

However storage the computer is easier in the compressed forms than
to have disk storage.

File format changers just don't do a good enough job and the adequate
burner does a better job. I have made DVD and VCD versions just to pick
off the mpeg file from the VCD.


That Haunebu II is at least as big as the Belgian Triangle featured
on the Unsolved Mysteries episode.



[edit on 5/23/2007 by TeslaandLyne]

[edit on 5/23/2007 by TeslaandLyne]



posted on May, 24 2007 @ 03:03 AM
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Tesla and electro-magnetic flight


Hi,


If found this extra references on the Tesla flying saucer, based on the text from Zorgon:
. www.virtuallystrange.net...
. community.thelot.com...

Also I like to public express my gratitude to Zorgon on all the work on my Pegasus section and their additional material, thank you!

TeslaandLyne, if you have any problems with the YouTube or GoogleVideo downloads and free video players just check the previous post, but that is on store and view in the PC.

And about Göring, free download of the book.


brotherthebig.



posted on May, 26 2007 @ 10:25 AM
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Originally posted by ignorant_ape

Originally posted by Graham
I remember reading a few years ago that 250,000 German soldiers at the end of ww2 were un accounted for (excluding pow's,mia,kia etc) supposidly they were transported to antartica at the end of 45 to beef up the defences at the antartic base, i'll try and dig a link up for it again


Graham


let us just assume for one second that 250K nazi personel were shipped to a secret antarctic base " somewhere "

please indulge me in a little logistial exercise

1 transport - please lay out a coherent plan to actually ship 250k personel from occupied europe to antarctica .

2 supplies - how much supplies - in tons does a 250 thousad man force consume / day ? include all classes of suply .


the ckaim of 250k unaccounted for - is erroneous . and the premise that they could be shipped to the antarctic frankly laughable


YOUR LAUGHABLE! Who says all 250K went to Antarctica, maybe just a thousand did? Lots of Nazis escaped to South America after WW2. They have a great chapter on this in the book Arktos!



posted on May, 26 2007 @ 02:51 PM
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OK, here's some more for you all. Ehm, I really need to apologize for a little mix-up about the carrier which was destroyed... Actually it was a DESTROYER not an aircraft carrier, I'm a little weak in naval terminology, so I asked a friend of mine (Google.com
) and found out that these are two different things that are not to be mistaken for each other... I'll edit that word, forgive me for the inconvenience caused by the mixup.

Let me please remind you all that this documentary was aired on our major TV channel, which is, I hope, responsible for their words. I do not neglect the fact that something is fake. On the whole it seems credible, just like any other documentary on UFOs and stuff.. Anyway, will be posting Part 2 shortly...
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Vladimir Vasilyev (Ph.D in Autonomics(?), Head Scientist of the US and Canadian Institute): “If the Germans would have decided and planned to create some secret bases, or extraterritorial secret areas (zones), they would have naturally chosen Earth’s poles, including Antarctica, as the location for these bases and/or areas.”

Judging by witness reports and other documents, the Nazi have really created a top-secret base in Antarctica. It was codenamed: “Base 211”. Since early 1939, there was already a specially equipped and modified ship, “Schwabia”, going on regular trips between Germany and Antarctica. Special equipment and resources - drills, excavators, rails, tunnel supporting frames, wagons, etc. - were transferred to The Queen of Mod, Antarctica. The land was also ‘supplied’ with many scientists, engineers, and other highly-qualified personnel. Why did Germany need such a remotely located base? There are many versions. Some think that this base would have been used to control the south waters of the world; others come to a conclusion that Germany had needed the abundant natural resources of Antarctica, especially Uranium, without which the creation of super-weapons would have been impossible. There is also a version that the base would have been used as a shelter, or hideaway, for the elites of the Third Reich; and that, allegedly, since 1942, many people, the land’s future residents, were transferred to Antarctica; not only scientists, and other specialists, but politicians and government workers. Secret industrial technologies had been transferred there too.

After the war, the US, actively recruiting German scientists, surprisingly found out that 1000 scientists were unexplainably missing, with no traces whatsoever. Over a hundred submarines were nowhere to be found, too.

Vladimir Vasilyev: “It is possible that the US Intelligence had knowledge on the fact that much of what was supposed to be left by the Nazis was taken to Antarctica. They [the US Intel.] could not have been neglected Antarctica containing a secret Nazi base.”

The interrogation reports of some Nazi submarine crews, who had been captured in Argentina, should also have alarmed the US Intelligence. And in late 1946, Admiral Richard Byrd receives and order: “Locate and destroy Nazi base in Antarctica.” But things went wrong…

The resistance with which the US squadron was met is still under question. Byrd reported fighter jets with super-capabilities and extraordinary performance. He mentioned strange flying saucers emerging from underwater, moving at extreme speeds, heavily damaged the expedition’s resources. This is a report made on February 16, 1947 by an eye-witness, John Sireson(sp?):...

© Gennady Kovshenin, 2007. Special for ATS.com! Not to be modified and/or used on other websites without written permission.



posted on May, 26 2007 @ 02:54 PM
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Double post, sorry.


[edit on 26/5/07 by MastaG]



posted on May, 26 2007 @ 02:54 PM
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“They just popped up like mad from under the water and slipped between the ships’ masts with a seed that ripped off radio antennas. A few Corsairs managed to take off from the Casablanca. In a blink of an eye, two of them were wiped out by some unseen rays coming from these saucers. During the fight, I was on the deck of the Casablanca, and I was very confused – these objects [saucers] did not give off sound; they constantly spat deadly ‘fire’ at our ships. Suddenly, destroyer “Murdoc”, about 120 feet from us, was set aflame and started to sink. Lifeboats and rescue motorboats were sent to rescue the sinking destroyer during the fight. The nightmare went on for about 20 minutes. As soon as the saucers dived into the water we started to evaluate our losses. We were horrified.

Who was in command of those saucers? Could it have possibly been the Nazis?

Timecode: 00:12:18 [End of Part One]

© Gennady Kovshenin, 2007. Special for ATS.com! Not to be modified and/or used on other websites without written permission.
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I really have no time to check the name spellings and whether the people are real, so I will appreciate if our thread's 'investigation and research team' could provide some interesting information, proof, and correct my mistakes, if there are any. Thanks and keep on denying ignorance.

Peace.



posted on May, 26 2007 @ 03:18 PM
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Originally posted by MastaG
OK, here's some more for you all. Ehm, I really need to apologize for a little mix-up about the carrier which was destroyed... Actually it was a DESTROYER not an aircraft carrier, I'm a little weak in naval terminology, so I asked a friend of mine (Google.com
) and found out that these are two different things that are not to be mistaken for each other... I'll edit that word, forgive me for the inconvenience caused by the mixup.


Well see, that doesn't work either. Operation Highjump only had two destroyers as part of the contingent. The USS Brownson (DD-868), and the USS Henderson(DD-785). Task Force 68.3 under Capt. George Dufek consisted of USS Pine Island, a Seaplane Tender, USS Brownson, a Destroyer, and USS Canisteo, a Tanker. Task Force 68.2 under Capt. Charles Bond consisted of USS Currituck, a Sea Plane Tender, USS Henderson, a Destroyer, and USS Capacon, a Tanker. Task Force 68.1 consisted of USS Mount Olympus, a Communications ship, USS Yancey, a Supply ship, USS Merrick, a Supply ship, USS Sennet, a Submarine, USS Burton Island, an Icebreaker, USCGC Northwind, an Icebreaker. Task Force 68.4 consisted of USS Philippine Sea, the Carrier.

The USS Brownson left Adelaide Island with the USS Pine Island, and USS Cannisteo, en route to the Weddel Sea on 14 Feb 1947, and terminated Antarctic operations on 3 Mar 1947. She arrived in Rio de Jeneiro, Brazil on 18 March 1947, and Norfolk Virginia on 8 April 1947.

The USS Henderson left the area on 3 March 1947 with the USS Currituck and USS Capacon, and arrived in Sydney Australia on 14 March 1947. She left there on 20 March 1947, and arrived in San Diego on 6 April 1947.

The other operation to the Antarctic was Operation Windmill. It consisted of just two Icebreakers, the USS Edisto, and the USS Burton Island. They arrived in December of 1947 and ended the operation on Feb 16, 1948.

[edit on 5/26/2007 by Zaphod58]



posted on May, 26 2007 @ 03:44 PM
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Zaphod, I'm not trying to make it work
.. I just made things clear adn corrected a mistake. Have you any information about the destroyer that WAS mentioned in the second part of my translation? The Murdoc. How come none of you have mentioned the destroyer in your lists of Byrd's expedition resources? Is there a complete list, official perhaps?

Peace.



posted on May, 26 2007 @ 03:57 PM
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Because it doesn't exist. I've done searches on it, and examined ship lists from WWII and shortly thereafter and can't find a single listing of a USS Murdoc in ANY class of ships. I even searched an alphabetical listing of all US Navy and Coast Guard ships from 1941-1945, in case it might have been another class than destroyer, but found nothing. I can't find any history of any ship ever named Murdoc, Murdok, or Murdock in the US Navy.

The closest I've found to an "Official" list is this site, which has some really good information on Operation Highjump.

www.south-pole.com...

[edit on 5/26/2007 by Zaphod58]



posted on May, 26 2007 @ 03:59 PM
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No I have not seen an official list other than the info at the Philatelic website.

Keep up the good work
... lets see what it says before we start trying to "fix" things. There is nothing that says that ALL their facts are correct. I have seen many documentaries in America that do not have all the facts correct either.

I for one appreciate the effort to translate this so I will be able to decide for myself the validity of any info the film may or may not contain



posted on May, 26 2007 @ 04:25 PM
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Originally posted by Zaphod58
Because it doesn't exist.


Could it have been concealed? We certainly can't be 100% sure that all the ships were documentated, witten of and listed in the most official documents... I've also tried Googling 'merdog', 'maerdoc' .. I did stumble upon a USS Murdoch, which was designed or something in the early 2270 - it was a Star Trek fan website... LOL

Anyway, I also haven't found any information on the John Sireson(sp?). Who was he?



posted on May, 26 2007 @ 04:33 PM
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What would be the point? You'd have to conceal construction records, crew logs, the CREW, since the report mentions survivors... It would be very difficult to conceal the existence of a ship. Since most or all of them were built in WWII you'd have to go back and edit combat records, which would leave discrepancies, etc.



[edit on 5/26/2007 by Zaphod58]



posted on May, 26 2007 @ 05:05 PM
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Destroyer vs Aircraft Carrier

Destroyer

Aircraft Carrier

Hi,


They are really different, but the important point is your translation MastaG, with that no one could comment on the video, right?

Here you have some reference material if you need, and you will know better than me if this encyclopedia his good or not, I don’t speak Russian!

. Great Soviet Encyclopedia

Keep going the good work.

brotherthebig.



posted on May, 27 2007 @ 11:49 AM
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Marvelous progress!
I will have free time coming up next week so I can update the collection at Pegasus'
Brotherthebig Files



posted on May, 27 2007 @ 04:13 PM
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I'm going back in the thread and saw the fight scene:




two of them were wiped out by some unseen rays coming from these saucers. During the fight, I was on the deck of the Casablanca, and I was very confused – these objects [saucers] did not give off sound; they constantly spat deadly ‘fire’ at our ships. Suddenly, destroyer “Murdoc”, about 120 feet from us, was set aflame and started to sink


The Mantell plane was destroyed by the saucer due to high a/c fields that
ripped it apart, no need for an unseen ray, get close to the saucer and you
lose.

The ship must have had an extra strong surge that exploded the munitions
with the high a/c, Tesla may have mention this as one of his weapons
effectiveness. You do not need weapons to defend yourself, you explode
their weapons.

That my explanation for those two events.

Look in Bell Island Event for what may have been a surge hitting the
ground on an island.



posted on May, 27 2007 @ 04:21 PM
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And your explanation that no USS Murdoc, Murdock, Murdoch, or Murdok ever graced the rolls of the US Navy? Keep in mind now that it would have served in the war so there would have been combat records, there were survivors, and there was a HUGE task force that would have seen it.



posted on May, 28 2007 @ 05:03 AM
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Looks like MastaG beat me to the second video on the Antarctic expedition, operation "High Jump", at least I can verify that he has translated it as it is, word for word, the key points being that an expedition was launched to Antarctica with a large amount of warships. At that time there were already German U-boat submarines, which, of all places, happened to travel to Antarctica. The fleet encountered disk shaped craft which rose from the water and attacked with firey blasts.

The part showing the supposed disk shaped craft in the documentary video appears fake to me, but who knows?

other points

1947, it was financed by the military, and had a military name, the expedition

12 warships, 5000 personal, 250 planes and helicopters, 1 submarine

Admiral said the expedition has a military attitude

Expedition which was supposed to be for 6 months, but came back after 2 months

Half the airpower was missing

The Admiral came and told the US that they need to prepare for fighting with advanced craft

1.5 years before that, 2 German subs came to Antarctica, they were strange subs, on a classified mission

Commander of U5010 said at the end of WW2 his sub came to Antarctica carrying possessions of Hitler and passengers whos faces were hidden.

The subs swam there often.

The continent seems to attract people like a magnet

US admiral gets order to destroy the German subs

This gets many questions

The admiral mentioned attack by disk shaped objects that aggressivley attacked from the water.

A few planes managed to launch, but quickly were destroyed

I was at the moment on deck, I didn't know what was going on, they flew without sound and attacked with blazing fire, then a ship started to sink...........................

....and that's where the video ended. Hope my verification helped.



posted on May, 28 2007 @ 05:18 AM
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Originally posted by Zaphod58
And your explanation that no USS Murdoc, Murdock, Murdoch, or Murdok ever graced the rolls of the US Navy? Keep in mind now that it would have served in the war so there would have been combat records, there were survivors, and there was a HUGE task force that would have seen it.


Zaphod, bear in mind that the translators have already made some spelling mistakes. For example, they cite Queen Mod land, when it is actually Queen Maud. I know they're doing their best, so that's cool
, but maybe it isn't Murdoch et al.. I was on to something last night before going home, so bear with me....



posted on May, 28 2007 @ 08:19 AM
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That still doesn't explain how there were only two destroyers in the expedition, and both were seen in VASTLY different places just a couple of months later. Contrary to the claims, most of the expedition were NOT warships. They were Naval vessels, but the only true warships were the two DDs, and the USS Philippine Sea.



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