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Originally posted by CX
You can't help noticing recently the emergance of many threads on the subject of survival here on ATS. Mind if i ask a few questions on this?
From what i can make out, the majority of the people actively participating in these threads are from the US. Why is this? Where are the UK members on this issue and why are'nt they starting survival thread after survival thread?
I rarely hear about survivalist groups or the likes here in the UK, but some of the threads i read on here from our US members, such as outlining the virtual armoury they have stashed away "just incase", are commonplace.
How long has this been the norm in the US? How much is sensible preparation and how much would you say is paranoia or slight overkill? Do you feel your country is in that bad a way that you have to learn to survive in the most deadliest way before it's too late?
I know there are different levels to this. Some people are just ready for an emergency such as floods or whatever nature throws at them, then there are the more extreme sides to this. Don't get me wrong, i think it's great to prepare, as i was always taught, remember the 7 P's.....prior planning and preparation prevents piss poor performance!
I just wonder sometimes about the stockpiles of ammo people talk about, the mass of weaponry stored, knives bigger than Rambo's (jeeez he has a lot to answer for!), the need for tactical gear and people talking as though they're on constant standby for a black ops mission. Do you honestly believe all this is really neccessary?
Maybe us Brits are too laid back and underprepared, what do you think? I certainly don't envisage having to fight for my life and having to survive off of the land any time soon here in the UK, but who knows....maybe that will be my downfall one day?
I'm not just finger pointing at americans here, it's just they make up a large majority of the people i am referring to. Maybe other countries are similar in this way?
What is it that makes you prepare as much as you do? Seriously, i'm not talking about general readyness for floods and storms etc, i mean the more extreme survival readyness, comms, weapons, stealth bows etc? Do you really think you'll be using all that in your life time?
Thanks for listening, i don't want this to sound negative towards survivalists or anything, i think it's great to learn some of these skills and i enjoy participating in these threads. Just interested in your views thats all.
CX.
the majority of the people actively participating in these threads are from the US. Why is this?
Originally posted by lifeform11
reply to post by CX
the majority of the people actively participating in these threads are from the US. Why is this?
because compared to the U.S. the u.k. is a tiny place with millions of people, if the SHTF imagine trying to find a hiding place or survival area inside a fully attended football stadium.
sure i think about it, but know if the SHTF then its more a matter of luck rather than survival skills, basically we are done for.
mostly open country side, very little woodland, the wildlife consists of mostly small mammels and birds, polluted waterways, with fish in, which with 60 odd million competing for the same things would not last long.
that's how i see it.
originally posted by: Zanzibar
To be honest, I think it's because Brits are more laid back than our American cousins. I've found that Americans in general are much more paranoid than the rest of the world, which I think makes sense, them being the 'most hated power on the planet'.
Survivalism, in the UK is different than in the US, we have limited access to firearms, so we don't really bother. If the worst comes to the worst, we're a hardy lot, we'd be just fine. Another things that pops to mind is that survivalists over the pond have guns, all of them. This means that there all probably fight with each other to survive. If one has a gun, they all need them.
originally posted by: bigpaul
you don't need any AR15s in the UK....unless your in the middle of one of our wonderful multi cultural cities that is!
originally posted by: Extreme Pilgrim
Originally posted by lifeform11
reply to post by CX
the majority of the people actively participating in these threads are from the US. Why is this?
because compared to the U.S. the u.k. is a tiny place with millions of people, if the SHTF imagine trying to find a hiding place or survival area inside a fully attended football stadium.
sure i think about it, but know if the SHTF then its more a matter of luck rather than survival skills, basically we are done for.
mostly open country side, very little woodland, the wildlife consists of mostly small mammels and birds, polluted waterways, with fish in, which with 60 odd million competing for the same things would not last long.
that's how i see it.
I think you have a point but to I also think that the masses not have the first clue on where to start in a national emergency. Not all scenarios are of the Mad Max variety, requiring you to pimp your ride into some sort of gun totting land shark. A weapon is not always required either. The gun laws in the UK mean that a break down in society will not lead to people spilling onto the street with arms.
The lack of a preparedness mindset would/could, in turn, lead to an abundance of locations for those that do think ahead.
originally posted by: Quantum_Squirrel
I am also in the UK and have probably 2 months worth of stuff for my 5 person family , have built a log burner , have axes, saws, led and solar equipment ( wind up radios and lights sources ) a plan..
hell like i always say even if it just a power cut for a week the above would be helpful.
am looking at crossbows and some form of protection but difficult in the UK unless you want a .22 air rifle that can just about maim a butterfly at ten paces .... useless
although i am very proud of my axe 'Zombie stopper' as my brother called it.
have not looked into any groups or help as am worried about legitimacy of such groups , although forming one with skills would be good , my relatives have also started buying the above stuff, after years of me telling them they finally see the need for such equipment.
I actually think that (population ratio's aside) there might be more than you think in the UK , its just we are reserved and don't shout about it , but you know if SHTF , you can rely on us to kick names and take ass!! you know what i mean
Q