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Originally posted by D4rk Kn1ght
No fire starting kit? no water purification kit? peanut butter and noodles??? No high energy bars?? no salt ?? no mil spec kit??? urghhhh in the words of my immortal WO2 on survival -
"Now, get out your fire steel, and make a f####### fire without your poncy kit..
think that fuel cell's gonna last all year? nope, me niether, but theres plenty of bloody tinder in this forest. W#####"
Originally posted by DeusEx
...bug-out bags are a sack filled with the essentials for a fews days...
Originally posted by D4rk Kn1ght
2 X parachute material wind smock. " Awesome windproof protection. A great insulator as an under garment, or a good wind proof over smock. wieghs in at 2 ounces.
3 x Swedish fire steel / magnesium block combo. 3000 ' C sparks light even wet kindling.
2 X Multi tool. Not going to use those pliers? guess your not thinking of fishing / Trapping then. Essential kit.
Knife. I have a CRKT Ryan 7 folder, which is razor sharp and has a great seerartion section for cutting ropes and lines. Fixed blade knife. Again a CRKT knife, but with fixed 6 inch blade. Ever tried to gut a large animal with a small blade? terrible experience for those who never have done!
2 X space blankets. Multiple uses - great emergency shelters and re-heaters - also can be used as... ooh limited only by your own resourcefullness.
1 X Hand powered flash light. 30 seconds of squeezing generates enough power for 4 hours of continouse useage. Not bright, but great for soft gentle illumination of a well concealed shelter.
10 yards of Wire, 50 yards fishing line, hooks, floats. Yep I plan to eat fish and be merry.
Water purification kit and 4 X water straws. These water straws are good for 12,000 litres of water through them, and filter out all the crap and gunk you don't want to be ingesting. cheap as well.
Compass. Both button compass on my jacket at all times, and a good long term compass in my kit. How you gonna find saftey if you don't know which way your going??
2 X buddy shelters (max 4 people) Replaces the emergency survival bag, as 2 or more people can share it. Don't know what they are ? look around, as they are much much better than single person bags - they fit you and your kit in them - and a friend / spouse as well...
For fast moving escapes, ditch the trousers. your going to be generating enough heat to dry them off any how, and if it comes to that situation, lighter is faster.
Food. Salt, sugar, pepper, and energy bars. No pre cooked / pre packed crap, as its life is limited as well as its usage. A high energy bar will provide what you need for fast flight. The land will provide for a safe situation ie fish /deer / rabbits ect.
OK, last bit. Rabbits. You live on rabbits alone, you will be dead in 2 months from vitamin and mineral deficiencies. they are good for a stew along with other ingredients every now and again, but eat only rabbits and your a dead man walking.
19 pounds. That my friends is a light, fast tactical bug out bag for the masses.
Now, i've not touched on footwear or the like, because, if the ship hits the fan and you need to bug out fast, your going to be running in what your in at that very moment...
Originally posted by D4rk Kn1ght
"My kit will get me from anywhere I'm likely to be to home"
You want to get to your home with a bug out bag.... right, straight away I see we are at cross purposes - my kit is for a quick, hasty to the hills and live well situation.
Yours is to get you home.
When the ship hits.. the last place you want to be is in your home.. yeah you might have the nice safe cosy feeling of being in your cosy home... but thats where they know you will be... Try finding me and my buddies in the wilds... rofl good luck.
My kit will keep me alive for months and longer. So, you can keep your kit, i'll keep mine, you stay in your home waiting to be collected and rounded up, and i'll be free under the stars.
Oh, and Drink pond water? yep been there done that - for weeks on end - right kit, your laughing.
Originally posted by angryamerican
You only piss off half of us because some of the information you give can cost somebody there life. We have a responsibility to pass on safe accurate information.
The alcohol stove IMO is a good one but mainly for base camp not bugging out, althow it is quicker and cleaner then a taking the time to start a fire, it crushes to easily.
The problem IMO is BOB's are personal.
As for you opinion on the MULTITOOL, its way off base IMO. When will you use the pliers you ask? Ever pulled a impacted tooth with you fingers. What about the knife blade files and saw in the handle, I guess no use for them either. One more quick use for the pliers. If you have really cold fingers the multitool is easier to grip then a small handled knife and can be used to skin a game animal. Pinch the hide roll the tool two or three times and start pulling down sharply. I've done it, it works great.
Well Maps and Compass are something I have in all my BOB's If you on the run there kinda time consuming to use if your not familiar with there use as most people aren't
Originally posted by thelibra
Thank you for the encouragement. It's good to know that some "real men" still exist out there. Judging from your mention of canyons, it's pretty obvious you're not in Texas, but you'd get some respect here for grit alone. My hats off to you, however I had some questions as well:
Depends on what part of Texas you're in. Palo Duro Canyon is huge. So are some the ones out in the mountains out West. Most of Texas isn't as flat as everyone from the eastern part of the state believe. They are some great bug out spots out in the along the Rio Grande and Pecos River. I prefer the Hill Country for its more frequent rain but lower humidity than Eastern Texas.
Water is the key to survival to anywhere you decide to go or decide to stick it out.
I prefer a mountain bike to a dirt bike. They're quieter and odorless. I can smell a dirt bike or quad for hours after they've passed off road or on a trail and can hear them for miles. These new electrical motor assisted mountain bikes seems like a worthy compromise. Especially with the new flexible solar cells.
Originally posted by WyrdeOne
If you can look poor, diseased and crazy, while being wealthy, healthy, and mentally alert - you're in good shape.
Dry stuff packs small and light and a little bit of oatmeal can go a long way towards making you feel better if you're cold and hungry.
The best survuival tool though is knowledge. When you lose your bag somehow and you're left with what's in your pockets, and what you're wearing, can you survive a 3 to 7 day stay where you're most likely to be hiding out?