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Originally posted by BASSPLYR
Thanks for all the info lately. I used to be infatuated with subs as a kid, life caught up and I couldn't study up as much, now that I've got an opportunity I'd love to pick both your brains for anything new to get me all excited about subs again.
I still got a feeling that there are more reasons to not using active sonar than that. Although a small ping could probably be heard all the way across the globe. Not a good thing.
The cutthroat seems to be up to something. It's hiding some really interesting tech that they are being really vauge on. Magnetic motors, and Physics experiments besides a whole slurry of other things. Magnetic Motors-Advanced MHD or even more profoundly cooler? Physics experiments-remotlessly recharging batteries from halfway around the planet?
Ehhh...Am I getting warmer, or just another victim to disinfo?
Originally posted by darksided
The Indian Navy Akula's are still rumors, but mostly speculated to be a sure thing. The Indian Navy is making a lot of headway in blue ocean deployments, whether it was the 4 ship group that not only tracked Chinese Sovermenny class deliveries but also made a worthy appearance outside Lebanon for evacuations this summer, to the eastern pacific excursions to monitor Australian peacekeepers in East Timor. Nuclear power will help these types of Surface Group deployments, because their Kilo's, while formidable, aren't really built for long patrols.
I am not current on the Indian Navy Scorpene purchase, but as of March 06 I thought I saw somewhere they were looking for AIP on their last three Scorpene's, specifically the MESMA AIP system used in the Agosta 90B PN.
I imagine 3-4 knots would be hard to stomach against the IN, which can field multiple fast moving surface action strike groups that would be nearly impossible to run down without giving away the subs position. Think about it, at 4 knots it takes almost 8 days to go from Karachi, Pakistan to Panaji, India. That would be hard to stomach during a shooting war, but the PN captain would have to do it if he wants to have enough power to remain underwater, unheard, and blockade that port under stealth. As you can see, the tactical challanges don't get easier with AIP, but with patience, the tactical options can be more flexible than their Diesel Electric counterpart.
BTW, that last statement regarding tactical use of conventional submarines is why I think India wants Akula's. There is something to be said about a sub that can stay underwater for as long as their is food for the crew, and weapons to deploy.
[edit on 24-10-2006 by darksided]
Originally posted by mikesingh
Lol!! The US Navy has gone overboard with their threat perceptions!!
They've really hit the panic button!!
Originally posted by runetang
That economic situation is only partly Pyongyang's fault; America bears some responsibility for lacing up North Koreas' shoes with sanctions ever since the Korean War!
Originally posted by Daedalus3
btw, Why would a Yuan be more 'strategic' than its AIP counterparts? Are you talking about political overtones?
Originally posted by orangetom1999
I have often wondered how far it would have set us back if the Japanese would have had the presence of mind to severely attack the shipard and drydocking facilitys in Pearl Harbor.
I think this was a oversight on thier part.
They must have worked feverishly to get the ships repaired and out of the docks after December 7,1941. The next nearest available drydocks were on the west coast of the US.
Originally posted by JIMC5499
I agree. We should have nuked them in 1952.
North Korea has no interest in getting along peacefully with the rest of the world.
Their only purpose in getting nuclear weapons is so that they can threaten South Korea, Japan and other Asian countries if they don't get their own way.
I've said before that North Korea is like a gangbanger that just found a gun. They are waving it around and proclaiming how bad they are and how you shouldn't mess with them.
As far as subs go, a bass boat with a fish finder and some hand grenades would eliminate North Korea's.
Originally posted by BASSPLYR
The mystery thread looks pretty cool, will check it out. I agree better leave the secrets of the Cutthroat in Idaho. Don't want to run into whome ever gaurds the secure location.
I too am more interested in stability and peace and quiet. Lazyboys work great for me too. The first thing I want to do when I get home from work is recline. Life can be too stressful as it is and one should take advantage of every opportunity to idledown.