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reply posted on 20-10-2006 @ 12:17 AM by Nygdan
The use of the biological pesticide Bacillus Thuringiensis for mosquito control[...]now these people are developing syphilis after being exposed to this pesticide.

Huh?
The bacteria is causing syphillis dna thats been sucked into the person's own genome to activate, and give them syphillus?
That doesn't make sense.
Syphillus is caused by a bacteria called Treponema pallidum. I can see a virus infecting a cell, inserting its dna into the cell's dna, and lying dormant over generations, but a bacteria? And then what, the dna is activated and the human cell becomes a Treponema cell?
Perhaps there was some lateral transfer from the Treponema to the Human, and then a seperate second instance of lateral trasfer, from Human to the Bacillus of Treponema DNA, and that 'transformed' the Bacillus to make it an agent of syphillus?
Its not as crazy as it sounds, there are sequences of dna called 'transposons' that will cut themselves out of one chromosome and move over to another one and splice themselves in. Perhaps this is a Treponema transposon moving from human dna to the Bacillus? Or some other bacteria?
They'd need to isolate some Bacillus from one of these people and use it to infect another animal and see if it develops syphillus.

63 % of the patients diagnosed with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (CFS) have a hidden lung worm, Cryptostronylus pulmoni cultured from their sputum.

According to whom? Would certainly make sense, if its causing a reduced oxygen intake or otherwise making respiration more difficult.
The viruses are known as bacteriophages, viruses that kill bacteria, or phages for short. [...]This mixture is then sprayed on food. If Listeria is present in the food, the bacteria will ingest the viruses.

All that for slightly cleaner deli meats? Very disturbing, either way. There's just nothing comforting in the statement "Viruses as food additives". If done right it could be a great advance, but who can really trust anyone to be really competent, even if they're not dishonest on top of it?


reply posted on 1-11-2006 @ 03:51 PM by Byrd
Originally posted by kozmo
www.dldewey.com...

Agree? Disagree? I am interested in what other members of ATS think about this.


Okay, I had a look at the paper...first thing that hit me is that the whole thing is just... wrong.

The "doctor" has apparently never been to medical school or to any kind of graduate school.

Dr. Hildegarde Staninger, RIET-1
Industrial Toxicologist/IH & Doctor of Integrative Medicine
Integrative Health International, LLC


Anyone who was a doctor, would be "Hildegarde Staninger, MD" or "Hildegarde Staninger, MD, PhD". They beat that into our heads. Secondly, the company is a "naturopathic" company where you don't need to actually have a degree to claim one.

Looking at the paper/research....

...ghods, what a mess.

Far-Infrared Radiant Heat (FIR RH) has many known names, such as the bridge of Terra Hertz and many others. It is made up of no photons and only 1/2 electron spin that gives it its unique qualities to aid oneself in the remediation of the contamination within one's own body and in one's indoor environment

There's no such thing as a "bridge of Terra Hertz" and "radiant heat" being made up of "no photons and only 1/2 electron spin" is just beyond ridiculous. Heat is transferral of energy by excitation of atoms, as anyone who didn't sleep through high school physics can tell you.

The original paper is just a complete mess. She wanders from topic to topic, tosses in a photo of a boy without legs and other things and suddenly announces conclusively that Evil Nanotechnology is at the heart of everything.

No.

There's no science here, and darn little sense.

(and let's not forget the "almost invisible worms are causing Chronic Fatigue Syndrome!" Oy.)

[edit on 1-11-2006 by Byrd]


reply posted on 20-8-2007 @ 08:18 PM by davidmann
It ought not have the benefit of an established syndrome, first of all.

I now possess near surgical skills with tweezers due to my interest of guitar, thanks to half a decades worth of trying to extract the nanosyringes from their point of entry, typically, the fingertips. One day I actually used my work gloves to unload a crate of sheet steel, and recoiled in shocking pain as one of these darts was lanced straight up the left hand middle finger upon first pressure on the first sheet on the dock. Typically three months were needed of 2-3 hours daily attempts. I quit the job immediately after shaking what seemed like an intact needle from the glove...prior to this day, August 5 1997, I had assumed that I was picking up filings from my working with metal, files, mills, etc. I made a note of the date knowing it would become a special day, a stumbling block for the nanoterror regime today in full control of our lives. I am saddened by the subsequent muddling attempts by the mainstream to convert this cheap trick into a 'can't f$@& file'. A few days later, the princess would be arrested for her chauffer's drunken driving exploits, fortunately, before any innocent persons lost their lives. Later I learned that I had not 'quit' my job, rather that I had been 'fired'. I saw friends fall out, began digging into it further, and witnessed that the local police had literally been bought off in order to accuse me of sick things, and they began to ring me up demanding an 'evaluation'. I knew I was onto something. But what? On top of this, should I happen to be in a public place, say, practicing my drive at a driving range, the person's phone would ring in the next carrol, and inexplicable, the receiver would begin to look around him, and say things like 'you have the wrong guy pal...'. Also, should I happen to spend a few minutes talking to a woman I'd just met, her phone would ring, and she would then rush away from me or roll her windows up as fast as possible, never looking at me again. My teeth are not THAT bad.

So-forget this being 'aliens'. Ask yourselves: who controls and has complete access to your phone calls?

I learned, under 600X magnification, that these tubes are hollow, with an angled cutting edge. Also I pulled 8 inch strands so tiny you could only see them for the blood clinging to them, from the entry points on my fingertips. This all stopped at the end of the month I discovered they were sinister, not poor metal-handling etiquette on my part, in 1997.

However, sometimes the wires cross, and I see through the lens I am not supposed to even be aware of, often times someone else's prescribed nightmare, and then there's the 'oops! He's awake!' jolt, a powerful shock that moves as the chessboard Knight as my surroundings are reeled in, in stunning rack-focus. Electrorheology is used with the grown in flesh polymer lens, and the fibers are merely antennae. I must be special in their eyes to have been so greedily watched. Accused. But I do resist the attempts at control, which sometimes causes groaning from the sleeping life forms I live with. Animals mostly...the people are too thick or frightened to even respond. Too busy trying to dominate the situation with their 'religion', or to shove me onto the street so they can watch Oprah in peace.

It sickens me, but hey: it is NOT going to stop. Bill Gates, the virus King, has stated publicly that another nanoterror weapon, aids, is 'going to be here for a long long time'. That's 'whatever kills ya' dontcha know. But please don't blame aliens, or God, or the right hand of God, or anything in the Universe except man, because that is what it is.


reply posted on 17-1-2008 @ 12:15 PM by interestedalways
To be eligible, one must reside in the Northern California area, be at least 13 years old, have been a health plan member of Kaiser Permanente Northern California during July 2006 through December 2007



www.cdc.gov...

It really doesn't make sense to me the criteria that they are handing down for participants. Why would you have had to have been a member of Kaiser during the determined time? After reading the CDC's information on how they plan on doing the studies I am not as hopeful that the study will be unbiased, but any kind of validation will be good for those who suffer with this.

The only thing I can think of that would be worse than the symptoms would be your going to doctors and such and being told you have a delusional disorder. That is just wrong.

edit to add from the same source:
CDC is not able to accept specimens or samples for testing, and we are not aware of any public health labs that are performing tests specifically related to this condition. Persons who believe they may suffer from this condition should contact a healthcare provider for evaluation and medical care


Well okay then. Big help that will be. I don't understand firstly why they plan to take a minimum of a year to do the studies all the while sending patients to doctors who aren't even acknowledging the disease. Why aren't there any labs set up to do this testing?

The article said the CDC recieves dozens of calls each week from people claiming to have these symptoms.


[edit on 17-1-2008 by interestedalways]



reply posted on 29-1-2008 @ 12:49 PM by aussiespeeder
OK I didnt finish my science degree (botany) and that was 20 years ago anyway! lol! so this may be taken with a pinch,
but my professor (de fossard) the spelling may be off, at UNE in Armidale was an early plant cloning pioneer (apicalmeristem cloning) before DNA fiddling was commonplace. We did have a few chats about the problems that might cause and he was very happy his "slice and dice" method was safe. (very simply, find the cluster of growing cells in leaf tips, chuck them in a petri dish let them grow, cut again, separate, bingo how many identical plants do you need, he made a fortune I am told!) anyway i followed this morgellans story on chemtrailscentral and Morgellons Research Foundation, where a poster suggested cotton had something to do with it all. hmm... botany I'll chase that trail too...
So I checked for the registered Morgellans sufferers map and compared it to the cotton growing areas of the US and California. There does seem to be a correlation if a little vague, check the pics.
Statistically close enough to warrent a good look I think.






The poster in the chemtrails site said
CONTENT QUOTED FROM EXTERNAL SITE
CHEMTRAIL THREAD LINK
"I have been looking to agrobacterium and I do think it is a prime contender for at least one component of this mess. To be specific it is Agrobacterium strain C-58. Lab created of course.
I have been doing some sleuthing regarding the patent etc. Follow the interesting clues.

I have been doing some researching regarding the patent etc. Follow the interesting trial of people.
Patent owned by huge CA COTTON grower, JG Boswell. I have been doing some sleuthing regarding the patent etc. Follow the very interesting trail of bread crumbs.

Patent info I have been doing some sleuthing regarding the patent etc. www.everypatent.com...

A bit about the lineage of the company
www.wikinfo.org...

Meet Grandpa www.answers.com... Old $$$$$ and power
en.wikipedia.org... Look for Grandpa in chart under Scotland illuminati.

I think the agrobacterium strain 58-C is a very good possibility. "

(back to me I couldnt get the quote thing to work)

So in a nutshell the DNA fiddlers have been stuffing about with bacteria that might develop cotton plants resistant to various items and be better moneymaking plants (less pesticides or better crop size per acre), growing a few test plants in the labs greenhouse and test plots and perhaps a "new" beastie has escaped, by design or not.
Perhaps a mutant bacteria or parasite.
So if this correct as a source of infection the cotton workers should be
the first to go down, cotton product users last.
I havent lived in the states for a long while but I would ask someone knowledgeable here to see if the main outbreaks coincide with worker population zones, be they actual farmworkers or primary handling factory types.
I will leave the quoted links to the owners masonic background out for the moment but this is ATS and they do seem to be everywhere a conspiracy happens to appear...hmmm, just saying.
Wasnt one of the last plagues described just as the Morgellans symptoms?
NWO, Bible prophecy or just that ATS mindset I love?
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