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NEWS: US Claims Control Of OUTERSPACE!

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posted on Oct, 19 2006 @ 02:03 AM
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Since I got nailed on this once, I'm going to say this. Super 70's title of this thread is misleading. The US does not: "Claim Control of OUTERSPACE!"

Super 70's link is to the Washington Post article titled: "Bush Sets Defense As Space Priority".

If the US claims control of outerspace then as a citizen of the US, I claim all the human female dominated amazon planets begging for men and the Death Star. And since Earth is in outerspace, I claim that too...which means this thread title has to be changed since I am the ruler of this planet.




posted on Oct, 19 2006 @ 02:33 AM
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I don´t know if you are familiar with Werner von brauns revelations to Dr.Carol Rosin?
It´s regarding weaponization of outer space and NWO.You can for example read about it here...

www.illuminati-news.com...

I find it scary to see that more & more of the stages described in his revelations are getting fulfilled.God save us from Neocon mad man & their hidden masters who´s bidding they do!



posted on Oct, 19 2006 @ 02:48 AM
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2 Years ago Rammstein was singing "WE ARE LIVING IN A MERICA"!!Loks to me that it is becomming reality!This document seems to a legal intrument for space dominion!!
The only real oponent in space to U.S is China!!Europe space program is weak,so is Russians program in a leak of resurces!!!!
What will hapen next???All palnets in solar sistem will United States of America???
Every one will eat at Mcdonalds,listen to Hip-Hop and will be happy?????



posted on Oct, 19 2006 @ 02:59 AM
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Alien1: Have you heard that Merrycans want to bring us freedom and democracy?

Alien2: Crap. There goes the Galaxy. Oh wait! Don't we have a contingency for that?

Alien1: Yes, yes we do! Quickly, hit the reset button! Back to the caves you puny humans!




Seriously, I think this is just a major cash cow. Somebody wants to steal and lounder a lot of taxpayers money.



posted on Oct, 19 2006 @ 03:29 AM
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Originally posted by Atomic
Every country still has access to do what they want in space. Any country that threatens US spacecraft or US territory will have to accept that the US will defend itself.

It's not a case of US being threatened. It is CERTAINLY not a case of US spacecraft or territory being threatened.

National Space Policy that rejects future arms-control agreements that might limit U.S. flexibility in space and asserts a right to deny access to space to anyone "hostile to U.S. interests."

U.S. interests can be anything. The very word 'intrests' is not exclusive only to satellites and territory, but it also means includes things like 'concepts'.
Concepts such as freedom. China wants to go to the moon? Too bad. China is "hostile to U.S. interests." They might put WMD in space. Just like how Iraq was "hostile to U.S. interests" and had "WMD".


Originally posted by Atomic
I'm sure China, Russia, Japan, and anyone else would agree that if their satellites were messed with that they would do what they had to on the ground or in space to protect their people and property.

I'm sure they would, but because of this agreement, THEY CAN'T!
Besides, has there ever been a major event when satellites have been "messed with" from positions in space? No. There hasn't. Which brings me to my next point:

Originally posted by Atomic
The policy also goes on talking about promoting PEACEFUL missions with other countries.

Policies like this have never worked. They do the complete opposite, as they aggravate other countries. Look what happened with Arms agreements, anti-Nuclear policies, etc.



posted on Oct, 19 2006 @ 04:46 AM
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LOL Seems I missed the world Vote again! this time it would seem that America has been voted the owner of space.... by 1 Vote to 0.

this just makes me laugh now! when will america learn that they are not the owners of the world (or space) nor do we (speaking on behalf of the sain world) want them to be!

this will only cause trouble when china continues its space program.

plus how decides if an act is hostile of not? the people? or the corperation that diddent get the right contract?

More crazyness from the whitehouse... or Nuthouse as it should be renamed!"

Daz Out



posted on Oct, 19 2006 @ 05:11 AM
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I've read about this also on our Slovene leading online newspaper and the title of the article said (translated to English)

Bush proclaimed himself as Master of the Universe





posted on Oct, 19 2006 @ 05:20 AM
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Is it just me or does Bush make himself sound more stupid with every statement ?

I am the Master of the Universe!
The only person i've known to fall off one of those Gyro scooter things thats impossible to fall off! surely can't claim himself Master of the Universe.



posted on Oct, 19 2006 @ 05:23 AM
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*President Bush has signed an order asserting the United States' right to deny adversaries access to space for hostile purposes.


Anyone that US claims is hostile is prevented from access to space.


*Bush also said the United States would oppose the development of treaties or other restrictions that seek to prohibit or limit U.S. access to or use of space.


But no one can question the US and it is free to pursue its interests.

Link: news.yahoo.com...;_ylt=Alhg7f.cHcyI4FSRlWiqlOKyFz4D;_ylu=X3o'___'A0cDJlYmhvBHNlYwM-

This is the height of arrogance and I can see that the US is gonna sink in the world's eyes a little more. At times like these I wish I was the president of some strong country like China or Russia so I could tell Bush to STFU because he does not own space!

[edit on 19-10-2006 by half_minded]



posted on Oct, 19 2006 @ 05:52 AM
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Originally posted by Liamoville
I am the Master of the Universe!
The only person i've known to fall off one of those Gyro scooter things thats impossible to fall off! surely can't claim himself Master of the Universe.


I'm not just Master of the Universe, I'm also a Decider.


Here's a portion of a lyric from Queen's song Princes of the Universe

And here we are.We're the princes of the universe.
Here we belong.Fighting for survival.
We've come to be the rulers of your world.

How appropriate.

Queen

[edit on 19-10-2006 by yanchek]



posted on Oct, 19 2006 @ 06:39 AM
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Originally posted by half_minded

*Bush also said the United States would oppose the development of treaties or other restrictions that seek to prohibit or limit U.S. access to or use of space.


But no one can question the US and it is free to pursue its interests.

Well Half Minded. I'm glad to see that there are SOME things we agree on!



posted on Oct, 19 2006 @ 06:47 AM
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Doesn't seem to be any problems.....just 'sounds' controversial. But what doesn't these days?


"Bush also said the United States would oppose the development of treaties or other restrictions that seek to prohibit or limit U.S. access to or use of space."

Isn't that like any other country saying " we oppose restrictions, or limitations on our access to space, because then it wouldn't be fair."

I think it's because the US is in the limelight so much, it becomes controversial, and easy to pipe up a headline to be honest. They aren't prohibiting anyone else from using areas of space for peaceful purposes. They aren't prohibiting others from using space to further projects for their own benefits which aren't in the interest of the United States....


[edit on 19-10-2006 by SteveG]

[edit on 19-10-2006 by SteveG]



posted on Oct, 19 2006 @ 06:58 AM
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Originally posted by 11an
I don´t know if you are familiar with Werner von brauns revelations to Dr.Carol Rosin?
It´s regarding weaponization of outer space and NWO.You can for example read about it here...

www.illuminati-news.com...

I find it scary to see that more & more of the stages described in his revelations are getting fulfilled.God save us from Neocon mad man & their hidden masters who´s bidding they do!




another good read on this subject is the book RUSHING TO ARMAGEDDON by Mel Hurtig....

fascinating read....



posted on Oct, 19 2006 @ 07:08 AM
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Originally posted by SteveG
Isn't that like any other country saying " we oppose restrictions, or limitations on our access to space, because then it wouldn't be fair."

Yes. That's EXACTLY right. Only Bush has taken it one step further, to say that "the US, and ONLY the US can decide who can and who cannot go into space."



posted on Oct, 19 2006 @ 07:22 AM
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Also, the policy was signed by Bush on August 31st, according to the Center For Defense.

"Taken together, the changes in wording aggregate to a much more unilateralist vision of the U.S. role, particularly its military role, in space. While seeking to assert “unhindered” U.S. rights to act in space, the new policy at best ignores – and at worst, dismisses – any U.S. obligations towards other space-faring nations and under a spectrum of international accords and agreements."
"A distrust of international instruments or efforts to establish collective security in space – which many would argue are required to support U.S. national security in space – is evident as well."


"At the same time, the Bush NSP is clearly self-contradictory. While emphasizing U.S. rights in space, including the right of self protection, it uses language that – at least under current international law and practice – applies equally to all other space-faring powers. The commitment to “free access” to, and “freedom of passage” in, space is enshrined in the 1967 Outer Space Treaty, to which the United States is a signatory; as is the concept of non-appropriation of space or territory on celestial bodies. The right to non-interference is also a central tenet of international law, via such instruments as the Liability Convention and the International Telecommunications Union accords."


More here
www.cdi.org.../index.cfm



posted on Oct, 19 2006 @ 07:26 AM
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Ok..wait a minute

"Bush NSP – “The United States considers space systems to have the rights of passage through and operations in space without interference. Consistent with this principle, the United States will view purposeful interference with its space systems as an infringement on its rights.” (Emphasis added.)"

What does purposeful interference mean?



posted on Oct, 19 2006 @ 07:36 AM
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Hang on..I think I see the problems now
This was the earlier policy

"Clinton NSP -- “The United States considers the space systems of any nation to be national property with the right of passage through and operations in space without interference. Purposeful interference with space systems shall be viewed as an infringement on sovereign rights.” (Emphasis added.)"

The US considers space systems of any nation to be national property with the right of passage through and operations in space without interference? This is the older policy...I know but it gives some food for thought. Am I reading this correctly lol



posted on Oct, 19 2006 @ 07:46 AM
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“The United States Government will pursue, as appropriate, and consistent with U.S. national security interests, international cooperation with foreign nations and/or consortia on space activities that are of mutual benefit and that further the peaceful exploration and use of space, as well as to advance national security, homeland security, and foreign policy objectives. Areas for potential international cooperation include, but are not limited to:"

Hmm ok not sure again. This article reports many dffferent things, a bit confusing



posted on Oct, 19 2006 @ 07:53 AM
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Originally posted by Blaine91555

Originally posted by dAlen

If people drop their weapons there would be no war...

[edit on 18-10-2006 by dAlen]


I could not let this one go. How do you propose this to be accomplished?
Would Russia disarm - No!
Would China disarm - No!
Would France disarm - No!
Would Pakistan disarm - No!
Would Iran disarm - No!
Would India disarm - No!
and so forth and so on - No!

Would we be attacked and occupied if we disarmed - Yes!!!!!!
Are we stupid enough to disarm - No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Could anyone dumb enough to propose this be elected to office - No again.

Another issue at hand here is if a hostile country like the NK were to get a weapon into orbit, who would protect the countries who are not equipped to deal with it. The US and our allies of course. No one else would be capable even if they wanted too which they don't.

This is a very adult world we live in. Granted its a horrible way to operate but until there are no despots in control of powerful weapons it is necessary for the survival of civilization. The best way to avoid this is to not allow unstable countries to launch the weapons into orbit in the first place. Maybe a hundred years from now this fictional Utopia will become a reality, but i doubt it very much. This world is full of bad people who are more than willing to die and take us all with them. Do you think the Terrorists are joking when they publicly state their intention to wipe Western Civilization off the face of the Earth? Think again.


What you do is deny voting for war mongering, power hungry leaders and elect some genuine, kind, loving, intelligent representatives of Earth. This is Earth: One Globe, not a division of nations fighting over imaginary seperations. I don't recall there being any borders, any countries, and states, any nations, etc. before Human narcissism and idiocy arrived. It's up to the citizens. The moment you begin believing is the moment your reality changes. Take back control of your universe, your reality, your existence.

[edit on 19-10-2006 by UbiquitousInfiniteReality]



posted on Oct, 19 2006 @ 08:17 AM
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Originally posted by dAlen
Protecting us in space from who? Osma out there?



Ever hear of the FOBS system? FOBS

It is a lot easier to put an object into orbit than it is to make an accurate ICBM. North Korea has nukes now and they have a missile program. After the results of the last NK missile test a FOBS system is an easily achievable goal for them. Iran has, with help, already orbited a satellite and is trying to get their hands on nuclear weapons.

The current anti-missile system that the US is building is designed to defend from a ballistic attack, not an orbital atack. The US is reserving the right to destroy a system like FOBS if one is deployed by a country hostile towards the US.




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