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Topic started on 16-10-2006 @ 06:14 PM by Rockpuck
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Hmmm....
I am torn between this.
First off, I will say that it is a right to free speach to say any word you want to, though you must pay the price if it is hurtful, demeaning,
violent or dirogatory..
Second I know for a fact that the Liberals here will shout the usually propaganda retoric..
This women is a nurse, though I have no idea why that is important, yet stated in the article. The Women put a bumper sticker on her car that has an
anti Bush remark. No problem right? Well the Sticker said Bush** Using Bush and the "S" word together. I personally feel this women was ticketed
for being obscene, and it honestly shows what kind of person she is, to stoop to such an ignorant level and an obviously lacking an educated sense of
humor.
 Denise Grier, 47, of Athens, Georgia, got a $100 ticket in March after a DeKalb County police officer spotted the bumper sticker, which read
"I'm Tired Of All The BUSH**."
She apparently wants justice from the office who gave her the $100 ticket, even though he has never given a ticket to another civilian for use of anti
Bush remarks.
www.cnn.com...
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reply posted on 16-10-2006 @ 06:31 PM by elaine
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I have to agree that the cop was ticketing for the obscenity and not for her political views. I've seen plenty of anti-Bush stickers that don't
resort to nasty words like that one.
She should definitely have chosen one of the non-obscenity Bush bumper stickers that are available. There are plenty she could have chosen from.
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reply posted on 16-10-2006 @ 06:58 PM by dgtempe
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I disagree. I believe the police ticketed her because of the bumpersticker and her political beliefs.
I'm just glad he didnt turn her into the FBI for investigation as a potential terrorist.
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reply posted on 16-10-2006 @ 07:54 PM by semperfortis
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IMO,
It was the IDIOTIC use of the expletive..
Nothing more to see here.. move along..
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Semper
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reply posted on 19-10-2006 @ 01:50 AM by Stormrider
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Originally posted by semperfortis
IMO,
It was the IDIOTIC use of the expletive..
Nothing more to see here.. move along..
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Semper 
Semper, I have a question for you and I am asking repectfully, would you as a police officer ticket someone for their bumper sticker? Is that
something that you would expect to find in most state's vehicle code? I'm asking you because you are the only cop on this board that I know of. Does
the vehicle code in your state have provisions for obscene bumper stickers?
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reply posted on 19-10-2006 @ 03:02 AM by SportyMB
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Originally posted by dgtempe
I disagree. I believe the police ticketed her because of the bumpersticker and her political beliefs. 
How did I know you were gonna say that
This woman is going too far. I can understand her fighting the ticket, personally I wouldn't want to pay it either and I would not give someone a
ticket for having one. But, imo, that is not the issue.
According to the article, the cop does not have a history of targeting people with anti-bush bumper stickers.....so why is the ACLU along with Denise
Grier trying to ruin someone's career over a 100 dollar ticket for a bumper sticker? A bumper sticker that according to state law is
prohibited...
 The state law prohibited lewd or profane stickers and decals on vehicles.
The cop was carrying out state law, so why seek punitive damages on him? If you really wanted to make a difference shouldn't you go after the
law....not the cop who is enforcing the law?
 Grier, a nurse who works at Emory University and other hospitals, also is seeking punitive damages against the DeKalb police officer who gave her
the ticket because he "acted with reckless disregard" of her rights, the lawsuit said.
What is enough? She wants a letter stating that her sticker is constitutional, she wants the state law changed.....hell, let's not stop
there....let's F%^& over the cop who doing his job. He didn't make a bad judgement call, he gave her a ticket for displaying a prohibited bumper
sticker.
 Grier is seeking damages from the county for "emotional distress," according to the lawsuit.
Easy money....$$$
Wether you agree that the bumper sticker should be displayed or not, I think everyone can agree that the cop should not be targeted for carrying out
state law. Target the state, go after the law, if you want. That's what will make the difference.
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reply posted on 19-10-2006 @ 03:27 AM by jsobecky
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This woman is being nothing more than mean-spirited. The ticket has already been thrown out of court; her punitive damages and emotional distress
claims are meant to intimidate the police officer.
The fact that the ACLU is involved in this surprised even me. This case maks it painfully clear that they are becoming more and more a group of
political hit men and less and less a legal rights group.
I hope the right thing is done and this case is thrown out based on lack of merits.
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reply posted on 19-10-2006 @ 03:34 AM by HowlrunnerIV
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Originally posted by elaine
I have to agree that the cop was ticketing for the obscenity and not for her political views. I've seen plenty of anti-Bush stickers that don't
resort to nasty words like that one. 
I hope said cop tickets everyone with a $*** HAPPENS! bumper sticker, then. And everyone wearing the t-shirt or cap...
He really wouldn't like the one floating around that says UNFCKNBLVBLE, would he...
As for nasty...there's something wierd about a country that lets you depict the deaths of dozens of people on film, but doesn't like a little
blue-tinged language that couldn't light a cigarette, let alone strip paint...
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reply posted on 19-10-2006 @ 05:39 AM by yanchek
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As far as I know this bumpersticker word BUSH** is not a word in an English dictionary. So how come he was find for something that is not in any
book?
It's like I was ticketed for having a bumpersticker Im Tired of all this ASSOCIATION (read first three letters only).
But I guess you can see a "criminal act" in virtualy anything these days.
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reply posted on 19-10-2006 @ 05:50 AM by doctorfungi
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Anything that implies profanity to a degree like that falls under profanity.
The cop's just doing his job. Give him a break.
This has nothing to do with her political view.
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reply posted on 19-10-2006 @ 05:52 AM by SportyMB
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Originally posted by yanchek
As far as I know this bumpersticker word BUSH** is not a word in an English dictionary. So how come he was find for something that is not in any
book?
It's like I was ticketed for having a bumpersticker Im Tired of all this ASSOCIATION (read first three letters only). 
Not being a smart arse, just making a point.....
But I guess it's ok to have F@#$YOU on someone's avatar. It's not really all that bad eh?
I mean, the words are together, not seperated, so it must be ok
It's all about context, imo. It's obvious that her bumper sticker had profanity, which is against Georgia state law.
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reply posted on 19-10-2006 @ 06:08 AM by Strangerous
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Same same
www.timesonline.co.uk...
POLICE issued two stallholders at a farming show with £80 fines for displaying T-shirts bearing the slogan “Bollocks to Blair”. Officers
questioned staff on two stands at the Royal Norfolk Show after receiving a complaint, subsequently issuing two fixed-penalty notices of £80 for the
offending garments.
Although the Police are using obscenity laws there clearly is a trend to stifle criticism of our Great Leaders. Back in the 80's one used to see much
worse T-shirts which the cops completely ignored.
Thin end of the wedge IMO
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reply posted on 19-10-2006 @ 06:29 AM by ThePieMaN
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You people defending this ridiculous charge against this woman are the same people that approve of airlines security removing a passenger for having
a T-shirt with Bush's image on it saying "Im with stupid".
While this cop may not have given out prior tickets for the same thing, has anyone asked him how many of these bumper stickers he may have come
across if the area is primarily republican. The word claimed to be profanity is bogus. What a waste of tax payers money to have to even have this
ridiculous junk go to court.
Lets all then go after the drug company Levitra with its implied advertisements with graphs of arrows pointing up and other Phallic symbols pointing
upwards for erectile dysfunction. Same crap. Whats the difference then between saying a word like Bush** and a picture of a graph pointing upwards
implies a picture of a penis or the word Bull****. Thought Police coming soon to a city near you!!
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reply posted on 19-10-2006 @ 06:43 AM by SportyMB
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Originally posted by ThePieMaN
You people defending this ridiculous charge against this woman are the same people that approve of airlines security removing a passenger for having
a T-shirt with Bush's image on it saying "Im with stupid". 
Are you talking about me? You said "you people"...meaning more than one.
Anyways, if an airline kicked a woman out for simply having an "I'm with stupid" Bush shirt...yeah, that's uncalled for. But profanity is
prohibited for a reason, and to be honest, I really don't see that many bumper stickers with profanity on them...so I guess she sort of stood out.
However, I do see many anti-bush stickers, but that's not a problem as long as it not dropping F-bombs and swear words.
And which case is that? Not saying it didn't happen or anything. I remember a case where an airline removed a women for having "F$%^ Bush" on her
shirt. Big difference.
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reply posted on 19-10-2006 @ 06:55 AM by grover
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Originally posted by HowlrunnerIV
Originally posted by elaine
I have to agree that the cop was ticketing for the obscenity and not for her political views. I've seen plenty of anti-Bush stickers that don't
resort to nasty words like that one. 
I hope said cop tickets everyone with a $*** HAPPENS! bumper sticker, then. And everyone wearing the t-shirt or cap...
He really wouldn't like the one floating around that says UNFCKNBLVBLE, would he...
As for nasty...there's something wierd about a country that lets you depict the deaths of dozens of people on film, but doesn't like a little
blue-tinged language that couldn't light a cigarette, let alone strip paint... 
In the long run that is the only critera. If he tickets just people who critise Bush then the ACLU should be involved. If he tickets everyone with an
obscenity on their car, then she has no case. Thing is, there have been quite a few cases of staunch pro-Bush supporters harrassing those who don't,
including several cases of people being fired because they had a anti-Bush bumpersticker on their cars.
My favorite anti Bush Bumper sticker reads...."The only Bush I trust is my own."  
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reply posted on 19-10-2006 @ 07:22 AM by semperfortis
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Storm...
NO I would not.
I also would not rush to judge the Policeman either.
Semper
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reply posted on 19-10-2006 @ 07:24 AM by seagull
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Change the law. Ruining someones career over a case that got tossed? Phooey. I think I'll go play tag...oh wait, can't do that either.
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reply posted on 19-10-2006 @ 07:35 AM by gallopinghordes
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Let me see if I've got this straight; the cop does his job and enforces the law; citizen doesn't like it so even after the ticket is tossed she sues
the cop for doing his job. I wonder would she sue that cop for responding to her house being broken into? Or does she only sue when it's an easy
way for her to get money. Ruining a cops career over him doing his job; what's next
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reply posted on 19-10-2006 @ 07:52 AM by yanchek
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Originally posted by SportyMB
It's all about context, imo. It's obvious that her bumper sticker had profanity, which is against Georgia state law. 
Hmm, interesting. I didn't know you already have thought police in US.
How about another aproach. The statement on a bumpersticker is in small letters and the last word is in caps. Maybe that is an acronym?
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reply posted on 19-10-2006 @ 08:01 AM by Griff
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People,
I do believe that the $100 ticket was found to be unconstitutional in Georgia and dropped. I'm not sure if anyone has said this yet because I
haven't read the entire thread.
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