posted on Nov, 16 2006 @ 04:20 PM
First, g210b, get out of here. Kidding. Actually, I know there has been a lot prophecied, predicted, or forecast about the pope, or the "last" pope
and stuff like that. I'm sure there are plenty of predictions and such concerning that office...You have to wonder.
This may offend a lot of people, but to me, the papal office is just a political office. A different guy appointed to office, who acts as a religious
emissary for that faith. He is the religious figurehead, but what or who would he be if he were alive at the time of Jesus, or Buddha?
Jesus was known to have entered the temple area of those selling goods and overturned tables and chairs, "It is written," he said to them, "My
house will be called a house of prayer,' but you are making it a 'den of robbers." (Matthew 21:12-13). If Jesus entered a church today he would see
hypocrisy, malice, greed, intolerance, pedophilia, duplicity, self-aggrandizement and a mountain of other spiritual maladies so high it would put
simple avarice and idol worship to shame.
You should read about the financial exploits of the Catholic church, the pedophelia, satan worship, and Illuminati cr*p associated with the Catholic
church. I don't want to cast any aspersions against those following the word of God, but those who follow it or not, who betray those sacred vows,
need to clean house. If you disagree that's fine. This isn't about criticizing those practicing their faith. It's about recognizing hypocrisy when
you see it.
If we lost the pope, I truly wonder how that would affect the world. I'll tell you in the U.S., just like with everything else, it would be business
as (...) usual. Not saying I have a feeling either way, but this country is self-focused and materialistic. It would be akin to an Amish family
witnessing the oil supplies drying up - like, What's that got to do wid me? I think it's high time for (primarily Western) religion to get a
Eastern religion and mysticism is a more accurate representation of the world we live in, not to mention it can adapt to any new information. It's
very adaptable. We over here work with a model that only runs on, metaphorically speaking, gas. If you all of the sudden present water as a fuel
(enter the existence of extraterrestrials/advanced civilizations/multi-dimensional beings), guess what, we have to make a new engine...In the East,
they'd be like, no problem, this engine runs on anything...metaphorically speaking...
Christianity/Catholicism and all of its derivations were perpetuated by powerful, political individuals for their own personal gain, and for control
of large segments of people. This is undisputed, and it is for this very fact that I'm surprised more people don't have an eversion to Western
religions proper. This should not offend people who truly practice their faith with a sincere heart, because our own personal and intimate interaction
with our creator does not include, or involve the political structure known as the church; but only insofar as we each consider ourselves part of a
well-meaning community, period.
Our true experience of the divine within and around ourselves is experienced on a personal, subjective level, and is carried out in a personal and
intimate fashion. Our personal experience of our creator does not lend itself to a political institution - even of well-meaning people, especially
when organized religion persecutes, or otherwise harms other individuals in exact opposition to the pure prononcements of our creator(s) of love thy
neighbor, and judge not lest ye be judged.
But getting back to the pope, a previous pope, I read, was assasinated, and it's even purported that he was a well-intentioned individual who wanted
to "clean house" and whom a malevolent body operating within the Catholic church at that time wanted dead. There's a lot going on behind the
scenes. Do you think the pope just sits and prays all day? Or his aides and other church benefactors? There are plenty of people devious, sinister and
misguided enough to infiltrate that pious institution and exploit it for all it's worth.
But the popes can come and go. If you want the real thing it's inside each and every one of us - even the misguided ones.
And re: the dream I had - I'll tell you. The dreams I've had in my life. I've had some of the most profound, bizarre and often lucid dreams you can
imagine. If my dreams were strung together and shown in theatres you'd walk out of there and slap Timothy Leary in the face for making such a weak
drug in comparison....But that one was cool. And I think I'm in for more...
What I mean is, and I'll include JSR in this, I've been meditating with this technique since last Tues. (Nov 7 I think). So far I've had some
interesting and anomalous experiences that I've posted about. I haven't, yet, gotten to the final step of the process, which is to ask for the blue
ball with the white ball inside it. This is supposed to be offered to the meditator when they ask for this assistance specifically. I've asked for
assistance, but only vaguely, and without mentioning this ball.
So, from here on out I'm going to go all the way. I'm trying it tonight, and will continue to until I get some real results. I will, of course, post
So yes, holy cr*p, this thread is still going...I'm curious...And I really feel driven to this technique for some reason...
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