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Girl Questioned About Anti-Bush Website

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posted on Oct, 15 2006 @ 09:32 PM
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Originally posted by jab712
She broke a law...period.



I also would be willing to bet that she didn't get too torn up about being pulled out of class and questioned by the secret service. Come on, she is a teenage girl looking for attention (hence the myspace page). As a female who was once a teenager, I totally believe that she soooo loved the attention she probably received after she was pulled out of class by secret service.


JAB?


I agree 100% she broke the law but are you saying she purposely did it for attention? Either way they did what they had to do and what they had the power to do. It just leave a bad taste in my mouth that they did it that way....pulling her out of school. I think it does spawn fear of the government.



[edit on 15-10-2006 by emulsion6]




posted on Oct, 15 2006 @ 09:41 PM
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Although I believe it would be VERY easy to let Executive/Police state power get out of hand very quickly, you can't get mad at the Secret Service for investigating what the little girl did- she did break the law, even though it was a joke. Should she be punished for this? No. Will she? Probably not.

The SS's job is to protect. When dealing with a critical job, you're constantly in a condition of danger and surprise. What if the little girl was far beyond her years, and wanted/could implement such a thing? Even though the chances are small, the SS still did their job.

Now, if the girl said simply "I don't like him, he is bad at his job" and the SS took her out of class, i'd say welcome to a brave new world.



posted on Oct, 15 2006 @ 09:57 PM
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Originally posted by emulsion6

I agree 100% she broke the law but are you saying she purposely did it for attention? Either way they did what they had to do and what they had the power to do. It just leave a bad taste in my mouth that they did it that way....pulling her out of school. I think it does spawn fear of the government.


naaa, I am not saying she did it for attention exactly. (having reread my post, I did say that, wow...I should probably review my posts or walk away for a few minutes before I actually post them.) I would imagine a myspace page like that would generate a lot of attention from her friends/schoolmates, but I doubt she thought the secret service would come and question her in the manner that they did. Honestly, I can't say why she had the myspace page, but having been a teenage girl at one time, I would not discount that the myspace page was for attention. I will say that she probably did enjoy the attention that she got after. Seriously, people will be asking her "whoa....what happened?" "damn girl, what did you do?" Gives her the opportunity to tell her story over and over again to everyone at school. I don't however believe she expected it to happen as it did. (Does that make sense?)

I think that pulling her out of class was a normal thing that law enforcement does. Whether it be a homicide detective, DEA, or secret service. It really seems like a tactic they use in efforts to get them to talk without a parent or gaurdian around. Otherwise, they would go to her home. It is a sneaky way to get around the whole having a parent/gaurdian around during questioning, at least for a short period of time anyway.

If I were parent of a teenager in trouble, I would be very against this tactic. It is sneaky. If I were a law enforcement agent, I may, however, find that this tactic was very necessary at times. It really just depends on the circumstance.



posted on Oct, 15 2006 @ 10:34 PM
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The secret service could of obviously just have seen the parents and ended it at that, giving them a warning. I doubt a 14 year old can cause much harm.




posted on Oct, 15 2006 @ 11:11 PM
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so, would threating the the president after hes out of office still get the SS after you?



posted on Oct, 15 2006 @ 11:19 PM
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*regrets posting* I was a little over the top.


[edit on 16-10-2006 by Marclar]



posted on Oct, 15 2006 @ 11:34 PM
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Originally posted by CashFirst
The secret service could of obviously just have seen the parents and ended it at that, giving them a warning.

What good would that have done being her parents supported what she did? Obviously, her parents knew of the site and supported her views being they themselves had the same views. Ironically now, her parents are playing the role of parents by claiming 'they did not know or approve of such......'





I doubt a 14 year old can cause much harm.

Really?
Watch TV lately?
Seen all those crimes and such being committed by 13, 14, 15, 16, + year olds?
Yeah, okie dokie.
You fell for that media description of her being an innocent freckle-faced girl with braces....

Newsflash: a 'threat', such as "Kill Bush," implies possible intent. In the case of a "Kill Bush" mention, it is deemed a threat with possible intent and will be investigated for its validity as such.

[edit on 15-10-2006 by Seekerof]



posted on Oct, 15 2006 @ 11:39 PM
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Anatomy Of A Questioning

Let me see if I understand what happened here...

1. Kids think it's cool to hate Bush, and hating Bush is a great way to meet other cool kids.

2. One kid, Julia Wilson -- who is no doubt cool because she hates Bush -- posted the words "Kill Bush" on her MySpace page in a clever bid to win friends and influence people.

3. The NSA, which monitors All Things at All Times in All Places and Knows All, accidentally intercepted her MySpace page while conducting routine surveillance of Democrats and other terrorists and generated a Priority Alert Intercept Notice which was automatically forwarded by secure channel to the CIA for analysis.

4. The CIA, upon reviewing the details of the alert, determined that Julia Wilson might somehow be related to former ambassador Joseph C. Wilson, which -- as a political opponent of President Bush -- would, of course, make her a grave and immediate threat to national security.

5. Upon further investigation, the CIA determined that Julia Wilson did, in fact, possess Weapons of Mass Destruction (WMDs), was the leader of Al Qaeda's Northern California wing and was funding an aggressive terrorist campaign intended to destabilize Sacramento, California.

6. The Director of Central Intelligence transmitted an urgent communique to President Bush, assuring him that proving Julia Wilson had WMDs and was connected to Al Qaeda would be a "slam dunk".

7. Acting on this information without hesitation or the slightest inkling of doubt, President Bush designated Julia Wilson an Unlawful Enemy Combatant and ordered her summary execution by the Secret Service. "Try to throw in a little torture if you can," he chuckled as two agents were dispatched to accomplish their grim but vital mission to protect America.

8. The agents located Ms. Wilson by means of the RFID chip all U.S. citizens have been implanted with since the 1960s under a secret Omega Agency project classified Above Top Secret.

9. However, the detection gear (which was itself manufactured in the 1960s) had blown a tube and was therefore only able to locate her within a 60-mile radius. So they went to her mom's house and asked where she was.

10. Upon learning that she was in school, the Secret Service agents declined the tuna sandwiches and rich chocolate Ovaltine offered by her mother, proceeded immediately to C. K. McClatchy High School (Home of the Lions), extracted Julia Wilson from her biology class -- which was in the middle of dissecting tiny, anatomically correct effigies of President Bush using contraband vibro blades smuggled in from North Korea -- and questioned her in the teacher's lounge behind locked doors.

11. The agents, whose otherwise cold, steely, professional hearts were melted by Julia Wilson's overwhelmingly cute freckled cheeks, knock knees and awkward metallic smile decided to make sure killing her was absolutely necessary before drawing their H&K MK23 MOD 0 OHG suppressed pistols and performing an "assisted Arkancide".

12. Upon questioning, Ms. Wilson explained that she never intended any harm to President Bush, but just thought posting "Kill Bush" on MySpace would be cool, but it turned out it really wasn't, and actually she really didn't like MySpace that much anyway because that bitch Brenda had a lot more friends than she did and wouldn't let her into the McClatchy High MySpace group, and that was okay because she didn't care anyway, and like, did either of you guys see that Criss Angel show on A&E? That guy is such a fox, and...

13. Satisfied that Ms. Wilson was not a threat to anyone (except perhaps Criss Angel), the two Secret Service agents decided that the primary objective of the mission needed to be canceled and boarded their black helicopter to move on to their secondary objective: rigging Diebold electronic voting machines to always vote Republican in anticipation of the upcoming elections.

14. Meanwhile, Julia Wilson, finding herself with some unexpected free time, transmitted a coded status report to Osama Bin Laden with her Cricket cell phone indicating that the hit on Bush would proceed on schedule, then surreptitiously planted some deadly plutonium pellets in Brenda's gym shoes before returning to biology class.

And there you have it.


I think that pretty much sums up what really happened.





[edit on 10/16/2006 by Majic]



posted on Oct, 16 2006 @ 02:28 AM
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nicely put majig


i saw this story in the news, and i think they were being more sympathic towards the girls side of the story. well a threat is a threat. they should be taken seriously during these times, as to all the recent teen usage of myspace to foolishly publish there plans of violence. plus that thing about the kids hating bush because it's cool thing is pretty true. people will be yelling hate remarks against our president, but then again they don't even know who the vice president is. it's all a shame.



posted on Oct, 16 2006 @ 05:45 AM
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Majig, I think you summed up events perfectly.

What else could have happened?


apc

posted on Oct, 16 2006 @ 07:51 AM
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You forgot alien influence. Clearly the Reptilians had some part in this affair!



posted on Oct, 16 2006 @ 08:39 AM
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That's priceless Majic. It actually made me lol.


[edit on 16-10-2006 by Astygia]



posted on Oct, 16 2006 @ 09:10 AM
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Majic that was hilarious!



posted on Oct, 16 2006 @ 09:11 AM
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Look people, this country is still free where you can express your anger or opinion criticizing Bush's policy or whatever. After all there are possibly hundreds of thousands of websites specifically about expressing opinions diagreeing or criticizing the President. However, theres a an event where its gone too far where people decided to post pictures or make videos where they fantasize about killing the President or have something like a nickname Kill Bush like this girl did, then you crossed the line. I remember a story where the Secret Service visited a kid where the person drew a picture of a machine gun pointing at Bush's head at school. Thats why the Secret Service respond to such things. It's their job to protect the President and to take all things or threats seriously, even if its over the top.



posted on Oct, 16 2006 @ 01:55 PM
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Majic that was the best read I had in a while.

While still laughing at the post, I believe that you probably has targeted yourself with the FBI that monitors all and probably we all here in these boards are in the Priority list.


Just a joke that in this time and age in our nations paranoia could no be far from the truth.

I have been around I have seen governments come and governments gone, I have see when it was a time that we the people rule the country we the people were able to express our anger and make governments work for us.

Right now is a different country and a different nation, after the 60s and 70s radical changes our country has fell in a state of complaint, we have allowed our political leaders to do everything for us.

We have become too Dependant of then, and what has our politicians done?, they are taking advantage of the good will of the American people that they are suppose to served.

They do not serve us anymore, they do not care one way or another of our well being, only it is in their best interest and that is the interest of power and greed.

Now with all the laws enacted in our name and our nation and for our own safety they are making sure that when the American people wake up from the stupor and realized how corrupted our political system is we will be binded by the same laws that are there to protect us.

It sad days ahead for our nation when we the people have lost our powers to control our politicians

They control us now.
one party benefits from the other all the time because that is how they have it working now.



posted on Oct, 16 2006 @ 03:02 PM
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Originally posted by emulsion

I am more impressed that a 14 year old girl has an opinion about the government. Maybe the next generation will get something done. Give the nation that spark it needs.


I can tell you this much, the generations of citizens of the last twenty five years has grown up in different type of nation, one that is all about control and more power to big governments, they have no idea about the dangers that this type of government can do.

I am from the older generation before that and I can compare between the two because I lived through both.

I know what have change and I know the differences, the next generation after this last one will never ever be able to dream about anything but what the government tells them to dream, eat, dress and behave.

By then the Patriot act will replace the constitution and the constitution itself will be use only for display just like is pretty much done right now.

That is my point.


The principle of the my discussion stays the same, what it looks like isolated cases of exess of power on citizens including children will be a common thing in the future because all sign shows we are heading that way.

What signs? all the laws enacted for control but under the umbrella of the "Good of the nation".



posted on Oct, 16 2006 @ 04:10 PM
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Marge some of the stuff you say is just very, well, inflated. I'm guessing you were just a college kid in the 60's and 70's so I think you're fooling yourself if you think somehow government has gotten better or worse, in general, truth is it has stayed the same. Sure we have unpopular administrations and what some may view as unprecedented laws and views from time to time but on average government and the way they view people has largely stayed the same. I suppose by your view you think the FBI was better in the past under J. Edgar Hoover, or that Kennedy, FDR, Wilson, Lincoln, Taylor, and Jackson were all angels among men? Please.



posted on Oct, 16 2006 @ 05:07 PM
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The difference right now is that we do not fight anymore, like we did back in the days.

Plus it was not patriot act and new laws for the sole purpose but to control the people.

And when we have a president that took upon himself to infringe in the rights of the population We the people make sure that he resign.

I was only fourteen years old when that happen and I had an opinion and I knew what was happening even back then.

Is not the same it will never be the same.


apc

posted on Oct, 16 2006 @ 05:11 PM
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It has always been the same. The only difference today is the speed at which information can be communicated.

Ranting about the Patriot Act is one thing. But it has no bearing on the fact that this kid promoted the assassination of the President.



posted on Oct, 16 2006 @ 05:29 PM
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Do you really think the sole purpose of the Patriot Act is to control the people? You don't think it has anything to do with fighting terrorism? Making life more difficult for terrorists couldn't possibly one of its goals could it? Come on Marg you're becoming a little radical in your comments.



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