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Originally posted by DeusEx
The SAS is THE SF unit. All others are patterned after them, from Delta to JTF2.
Originally posted by Slice
The original poster talks like this video has top secret information and tactics, only special because they are SAS. Well, there is absolutely nothing special about these tactics, heck I have seen paintball teams do some of this stuff.
Originally posted by Slice
Originally posted by deltaboy
I like to show you a video of the SWAT team making entry and it makes you want to shake your head.
What part of "training" do you not understand? The video with the SAS was a staged demonstration, meaning they could have displayed whatever image they wanted. The video of SWAT that you show is actual training of NON-LETHAL apprehension of a civilian. There is a huge difference, in tactics when you don't want to kill the suspect.
Watch the SAS video, they are killing without hesitation. SWAT is a bunch of police that are there to arrest the suspect, and they are only armed in case the suspect tried to shoot back. "Innocent until proven guilty", they do not want to kill, they want to arrest. HUGE DIFFERENCE.
Originally posted by Slice
Originally posted by DeusEx
The SAS is THE SF unit. All others are patterned after them, from Delta to JTF2.
The only US military unit patterned after the SAS is the US Army's Delta Force. That's it. The US Navy SEAL's will rock the SAS any day, land, sea, and air.
Originally posted by mojoberg
Slice are you really this stupid that you cannot understand that the video is a dramatical recreation it has NOTHING to do with the MOD SAS or any UK military. If you think that the video is official do you think the film BHD or Jarhead are official training videos for the US military
Originally posted by Slice
What part of "training" do you not understand? The video with the SAS was a staged demonstration, meaning they could have displayed whatever image they wanted. The video of SWAT that you show is actual training of NON-LETHAL apprehension of a civilian. There is a huge difference, in tactics when you don't want to kill the suspect.
Watch the SAS video, they are killing without hesitation. SWAT is a bunch of police that are there to arrest the suspect, and they are only armed in case the suspect tried to shoot back. "Innocent until proven guilty", they do not want to kill, they want to arrest. HUGE DIFFERENCE.
Originally posted by Slice
Originally posted by mojoberg
Slice are you really this stupid that you cannot understand that the video is a dramatical recreation it has NOTHING to do with the MOD SAS or any UK military. If you think that the video is official do you think the film BHD or Jarhead are official training videos for the US military
Do you know how to read? Please go back to school and learn some reading comprehension skills.
I said the SAS video in the original post was a staged demonstration, which is exactly the same as dramatic recreation. Do you understand that?? And no I do not think BHD and Jarhead are official training videos, you have to be on drugs to even ask that question, or to even think that. I am in the military, and I know what I am talking about.
Originally posted by mojoberg
how come you thought the delta force were in the US marines surely someone serving in the military wouldnt get that wrong?
Originally posted by deltaboy
PR may it be, however that don't seem to work for the terrorist side that tends to do things that is similar to special operations units that deals with counterterrorism. This will not deter terrorists, in fact it makes the terrorists say "oh yeah so thats how Americans and British do this, lets try to counter this" or "so thats how they manage to do this, well I have a better idea that will make their mission unsuccessful."
And I see that in the movie BHD, they don't show much about Delta's methods of executing a raid.
The extras in DVD don't show much and actors that imitates Delta is not Delta.
Delta instructors just train them how to properly execute a raid and use their weapons when making entry.
This video shows more than what the movie BHD can show as well as the extra features DVD.
Originally posted by devilwasp
Delta, if thats so then surely we shouldnt show ANY of our armed forces at work for fear of the otherside discovering the tactics. If so then surely the rangers are severely comprimised from the BHD film.
Originally posted by thesaint
Aha XMG. I have such fond memories *cough cough*
Originally posted by Slice
The only US military unit patterned after the SAS is the US Army's Delta Force. That's it. The US Navy SEAL's will rock the SAS any day, land, sea, and air.
Originally posted by deltaboy
No, theres a difference between showing off what you can do on tv, and use it for real in a real event. Even the SAS in 1980 wanted cameras far away or turned off before the operation began.
Not to mention Rangers are not the one doing the operation, they just provide security around the perimeter like in the movie.
[edit on 14-10-2006 by deltaboy]