F22 vs Eurofighter vs SU37 who wins the Dogfight., page 1

This is not SU-37. This is S-37 here .

added:
By the way, range of the missiles, radars, pilot skills and targeting systems play a major role in any dogfight. So it is very, very hard to say who will win.
In any case, it would be good idea to visit some of the AVIA forums. I am sure there were debates about that there.

[Edited on 9-11-2003 by GEX]

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Look at my post.

The S-37 Berkut will win hands down.

Nobody can get a Berkut.

Its the best fighter ever made.



S-37 Berkut Specifications

Primary Function: N/A

Contractor: Sukhoi

Crew: One

Unit Cost: N/A

Powerplant
two Aviadvigatel D-30F6 afterburning turbofans at 68,340 lb (303.8 kN) each (original) two Saturn/ Lyul'ka AL-37FU afterburning turbofans at 63,930 lb (284.4 kN) each w/ afterburner (planned)

Dimensions

Length: 72.83 ft (22.60 m)

Wingspan: 74.00 ft (16.70 m)

Height: 19.33 ft (5.90 m)

Weights

Empty: N/A

Maximum Takeoff: 74,955 lb (34,000 kg)

Performance

Speed: 1,555 mph (2,500 km/h)

Ceiling: 61,680 ft (18,800 m)

Range: 2,100 nm (3,880 km) -- typical

Armament
14 hard points




[Edited on 11-11-2003 by Russian]

Lets do the math:
Su-37/S-37 is: "Simonov stated that the new Sukhoi fighter will be a multirole aircraft, and would be able to operate from aircraft carriers as well. Sukhoi officials insist that the S-37 is not a prototype for the new operational fighter. They emphasize that the S-37 is strictly an experimental platform, but add that its technology will be leveraged into the new design."
Link:
www.faqs.org...
(scroll to the bottom)


As for the Eurofighter...close but no cigar....look at this report:
"The Gray Threat"
Link:
www.afa.org...

Excerpt:
"Fighter (Origin) Effectiveness Score Inferred Exchange Ratio"
F-22 (US) .91 10:1
EF-2000 (European) .82 4.5:1
F-15F (US) .60 1.5:1
Rafale (France) .50 1:1
F-15C (US) .43 1:1.3
F/A-18E/F (US) .25 1:3
F/A-18C (US) .21 1:3.8
F-16C (US) .21 1:3.8


Very informative article with charts, etc.
None of these cover the advent of the JSF...F-35.

BTW: Here is another brief factoid that many seem to overlook or simply neglect to heed:
"This becomes more evident in a BVR engagement. In fact, the F-22 can launch an AMRAAM missile without even establishing a lock-on. The unfortunate target won't even receive a missile inbound warning until the missile has activated its own radar and is on final intercept. By this period, it is almost impossible to evade the missile. The pilot will have no other choice but to eject."
Link:
www.abovetopsecret.com...
and....
f22rap.virtualave.net...

Conclusion......
You might detect 'a' Raptor, but be assurd, as per the dinosaurs of old, you will not see the other(s) that has/have detected you...all the while, your merrily closing in on the one you did (notice the past tense use) detect.



regards
seekerof

[Edited on 13-11-2003 by Seekerof]

I would have to go with the F/A-22. Also this article www.afa.org... was writen in 1995. I believe that the American fighters are alot better than they say. It kinda says something when countries are finally after 30 years building planes that the US is ready the retire.

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