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posted on Nov, 9 2003 @ 04:24 PM
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Sorry, mishapscott. We're kind of nervous right now.

No offense taken, hope none given!




posted on Nov, 9 2003 @ 04:29 PM
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Originally posted by mishapscott
And if you need anything else to work off of...think about this.

The US is getting ready to deploy about 85,000 more troops to Iraq.

Do you think these newly deployed troops are really for one of those states?


Those troops are being sent out to replace troops who are coming back.
In fact the number of troops will be reduced


The moves are part of a rotation plan that assumes Iraqis will be capable of contributing enough to the battle against the anti-occupation insurgency that the number of American troops in Iraq can be reduced from 131,600 today to 105,000 by May, senior officials said.


full story here



posted on Nov, 9 2003 @ 04:29 PM
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Originally posted by mishapscott
US Planes have seen huge activity over the Scotland Area. Who is over in that area?


Me


Your preaching to the choir son


Yes, there has been an enormous amount of air traffic over here, maybe i should tell you theres been extensive special forces training too, especially in camo.



posted on Nov, 9 2003 @ 04:48 PM
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There is a new breaking update on that site now that states "Message Found......
To all coasts cells 50, 55, 55, the water, the water, the water
The goal open, they rely on Allah"

and also a reference to Bush and tommorrow......



posted on Nov, 9 2003 @ 04:52 PM
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Jesus...

Val, i think you need to make a reply to that thing we discussed earlier asap.

What if they're attacking a ship with a plane from nevada, are their carriers in san diego right now???



posted on Nov, 9 2003 @ 04:53 PM
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# # #

Bush is in cali today and tomorrow!



posted on Nov, 9 2003 @ 04:56 PM
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The complete text.

Below is a message found suggesting an impending attack on the US. A more accurate translation is currently being sought. The original Arabic appears below the rough English translation.--Douglas J. Hagmann, Network Director


The In the name of Allah Most Gracious Most Merciful?

And Allah was truthful its promise ...

Allah is the greatest * (Expanded in Arabic version)

With Ben Laden 's directions * * * we continue that trained Manhattan
So that we force I am banished America * * * and cut its disgraceful evil
* * * * *
I O Bush a terrorist * * * the triumph iron and the eyetooth?
I gathered the day my friends * * * so that we remove your dark night
* * * * *
A youth followed up an ???? * * * and the imposition of its fight he revived
A three he divorced the world * * * a divorce its rule is final
* * * * *
A youth sold and rejoice * * * then a slower mouth and no he became late
A tomorrow its older ascending * * * to its paradise the seducing
* * * * *
Tomorrow O Bush they received us * * * the reward of your favour in us :
An attack you will forget us * * * by it Manhattan days
* * * * *
By weapons that she explode * * * and terrors destroy you
Tomorrow O Bush is your date * * * a recollection you the impudent
* * * * *
Also you sided with Sharon * * * so that he tyrannizes in Palestine
Fighting composed a million * * * so that she protects that an Alraan
* * * * *
Also you vandalized by my motherlands * * * and destroyed a Khurasani
And a Kashmiri and Chechen * * * and a moist earth was tired for us a hot
* * * * *
As Baghdad you destroyed * * * and you burned and sinned
By a sweeping army you moved * * * so that he crushes our safe nation
* * * * *
Also you trod my needy * * * and cut the religion ties?
And you dragged my millions * * * to the stagnant swamp
* * * * *
Also you defiled the Kaaba * * * by a drawing army he crucified it
And rulers knelt its closeness * * * and a cheetah is a server servant
* * * * *
By the West Sharia they have established * * * and from the injustice of a Th they created
About the motherlands what paid * * * as the domestic may be paid
* * * * *
Also your guilts were famous * * * as your consciences vanished
Also your daggers were thrust * * * by our weak patient back
* * * * *
We will kill you with no mercy * * * we will turn your living a sadness
Rumsfeld will forget its name * * * and he is denied that the miller levied
* * * * *
He will understand that we are a nation * * * for it in the world the summit
She will violate black darkness * * * by a stabber executed spear
* * * * *
She will revive all my hopes * * * and raises the affair of my generations
And all an impostor crushes * * * a betraying criminal customer
* * * * *
?????? He came that arrive * * * and that she revives for us an Al Amla
Then destroy my master Hubal * * * the priest front Wdrg
* * * * *
Safar came then do we are patient * * * on our enemies increase
Then pronounce the name of our sheikh and slaughter * * * and permit our sheikh I permit
* * * * *
God willing she manages * * * any my sheikh and triumphs
And America will be expelled * * * and by it a citizen will not remain

- - * ===+ + ) ) the praise of you, oh Allah accept them in the martyrs ( ( + + ===* - -


Allah is the greatest ........




Removing the dark night, thats a direct reference to nuclear weapons, the term wolf is an old trigger for action used in many groups where thet want people to act.



posted on Nov, 9 2003 @ 04:59 PM
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What do you guys think "the water the water the water" means???



posted on Nov, 9 2003 @ 04:59 PM
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Comments on this page raise my heckles a little more.

Numerology and obtuse reference to the elements should instill terror and fear in people that see themselves cast as "infidels" by the terrorist swarms.

But I will be revisiting this thread on November 12, just the same, with a post-hoc series of questions for the researchers and protagonists, about what didn't happen.



posted on Nov, 9 2003 @ 05:06 PM
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Well MA, i know your position as i normally side with that belief, and yeah, we'll probably wrong and we'll take your heckling/laughter when it comes.

Theres always that chance, and just because it is highly unlikely it could still happen and also.. we've provided 4+ pages worth of decent discussion instead of "does my hair look cool" threads.

We're just denying ignorance old chap



posted on Nov, 9 2003 @ 05:08 PM
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Originally posted by Valhall
What do you guys think "the water the water the water" means???



Maybe a reference to warships, (USS Cole anyone?)



posted on Nov, 9 2003 @ 05:12 PM
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Originally posted by Nerdling
Well MA, i know your position as i normally side with that belief, and yeah, we'll probably wrong and we'll take your heckling/laughter when it comes.



No laughter. No heckling.

Just a real examination of the facts that came to light, and what they did or did not point to.

In a Deny Ignorance kind of way, as well. With more substance and meaning per thought than anything that might have ever come out of the QSNHOD episodes - I was there for them and the ATS panic that ensued, and I was pretty much the same there as I am on this lot.

Please continue.



posted on Nov, 9 2003 @ 05:18 PM
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I just thought of something...

Water Water Water... DAMS!

We've been talking about the hoover dam and surrounding dams so the water thing could be an indication they're going for a water source.



posted on Nov, 9 2003 @ 05:21 PM
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Well, that was my first response "OH #! Hoover!" But I wanted to find out if it struck anybody differently. I'm trying to stay open-minded so that I don't find myself excluding theories here.

This is tricky business trying to figure out hate-filled, criminal minds, you know?



posted on Nov, 9 2003 @ 05:24 PM
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Hmmm maybe they plan on hitting seaports or even poisoning water supplies.



posted on Nov, 9 2003 @ 05:26 PM
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Originally posted by Valhall
This is tricky business trying to figure out hate-filled, criminal minds, you know?


Indeed, there are so many probable targets, perhaps we should compile a list...
So Far
(from highest probability to lowest)

Las Vegas Casino's
Las Vegas Hotels
The Hoover Dam (and surrounding dams on Lake Mead)
Nuclear Power Plants
Warships (San Diego?)
Bush (He's in cali)
Military facilities (Vandenberg?)
Population Centres (Chem/Bio)
Liberaces House



posted on Nov, 9 2003 @ 05:34 PM
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I can't bear losing Liberace's house...that will be the lost straw.

Seriously, okay, if the water, water, water reference is something to do with a ship, I would think that the logical assumption would be that the call to the "coastal cells" means to carry out something in a port (or nearby coastal waters).

Do we have any important military ships in dock at this time? or in nearby waters that could be reached from either of the coasts?



posted on Nov, 9 2003 @ 05:35 PM
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Look at it this way...

They cannot do anything by air, anymore. That is too monitored and secure.

They cannot do much by land anymore,...most suspects in the US are cataloged and watched.

There only method into the US is by water.
Wether by inflatable raft (cole) or by speedboat, all the cities mentioned are coastal.

And the coasts are hard to monitor due to the length of coastlines in the US.

A speedboat, with a dirty bomb, could be effective, and hard to stop, especially if there are several per target, one or two could get thru.



posted on Nov, 9 2003 @ 05:37 PM
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Originally posted by William
Who wants to bet me 10,000 ATS points nothing with happen on U.S. soil on 11/11?

First come first serve.

Drat. You beat me to it.

Add another voice to the "oh heavens. Yet another Dire Warning Of Doom" (we just had the one on blood red moons, if you'll remember, and the earth still seems to be here today.) It seems like Dire Warnings Of Doom hit every day or two.

The problem with this is that it leaves you jumping at shadows and you won't recognize a REAL threat when you see it.



posted on Nov, 9 2003 @ 05:39 PM
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Well something has been eating at me since the start of this, the port section of houston has always been of great risk, with many reports about it and how its being secured, it was the victim of hackers a while back and houses some major refineries, if you could get a dinghy up near them you could plant explosives on some tanks or even supertankers, you'd flood the port with oil and fire, covering houston in a thick haze of acrid smoke.





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