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A "Survivalists" Forum or Research Project?

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posted on Oct, 15 2006 @ 02:08 AM
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As someone already prepared for natural disasters (earthquake, flood, tsunami)...I think a forum dedicated to providing information, support and suggestions is an awesome idea...

So what is the next step in making it happen?




posted on Oct, 15 2006 @ 02:18 AM
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Yes, its an excellent show. Man I wish everyone here could watch it. The guy is amazing and I've learned so much from the show. Too bad I stopped watching TV a year ago... gee I might have to go back to watch this guy since I forgot all about him.

The toughest show he did was a week in the desert in Arizona or whatever it was. He said it was harder than being dumped in the Arctic for a week.



posted on Oct, 15 2006 @ 02:27 AM
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survival forum...yeah that would be cool.
Maybe some podcast and videocast, that would be excellent.

Get some of these guys/gals who learned survival in various conditions in the military or elsewhere.

Cool, lets get the forum started.

Peace

Dalen



posted on Oct, 15 2006 @ 02:34 AM
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Originally posted by DeusEx
I agree with Himwhohath- this won't be another 'weapons' forum. There are a lot of places where getting a firearm is about as likely as a rain of toads. those people need survival questions answered as much as anyone else.

You can't live on gunpower alone.

DE


Yeah, survival is using what nature has...and so far nature doesnt have a gun in the forest, etc.
I want to know how to live out at sea...in the desert...in the ice, about herbs plants, building material, etc...true die hard survival with as much natural luxury as possible.


firearms would be a different type of survival...if your talking on how to survive in a war.
So I suppose the purpose needs to be clarified.

Peace

Dalen



posted on Oct, 15 2006 @ 02:52 AM
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Originally posted by semperfortis
After Marine Sniper School, and being raised on a farm in West Virginia, Survival training was natural for me.

I also attended several Marine/Navy schools dealing in survival.

Any assistance I can give, I will freely contribute.

Semper


Dude, totally cool.
YOu should do a podcast or videocast (all the better) and discuss how to live in different environments like various jungles, deserts, how to make shelters...everything from nature and raw materials. That would be cool. (and a lot of time on your part.)

Peace

dalen



posted on Oct, 15 2006 @ 01:13 PM
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After water, food becomes an obvious concern. After Safeway and Joe's Market are looted, most people will be absolutely clueless.
Besides keeping MRE's on hand, I also keep a couple leg traps in backup.

When you get hungry, you want to have options!



posted on Oct, 15 2006 @ 02:53 PM
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Sounds useful,I also vote yes for the forum.
A "New ATS Order" is showing itself or should I say a "Better ATS Order" instead.



posted on Oct, 15 2006 @ 03:35 PM
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I believe that this idea is absolutely fantastic!


There is so much I don't know about this subject, and I would love to learn more on the subject. I know personally, that it could be a great help in living in a hurricane zone, and above that, this is truly what I would consider conspiracy-related material that could be discussed. How often some of us would discuss anything NWO-ish, yet never focus on what to do after the fact.

There are so many facets to this, that I am already thinking about it over a wonderful Corsendonk Brown Ale and letting my mind reel over the possibilities.



posted on Oct, 15 2006 @ 04:29 PM
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kudos to langdiggity.... i like your idea of the budget generator on page 3, please go into more detail on how to get it working....

i vote a most definite yes on this being a forum.
the majority of forums on here deal with what is happening now or could happen, not what happens after situation x.

maybe there could be a series of posts on the budget topic.....

how to keep a first aid box on a budget, how to buy ammo on a budget, how to get outdoor supplies on a budget, etc.

since we have members from all different regions lets post about local plant/animal life, what plants are edible/not edible, what animals/insects will poison you or cause possible diseases and those that just want to feast on your lifeforce



posted on Oct, 15 2006 @ 04:42 PM
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Perhaps if the forum used a term other than "survivalist". Even though that is perfectly descriptive, it does have a negative sterotype attached to it..



posted on Oct, 15 2006 @ 09:28 PM
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I'm not sure what you mean. Could you explain the negative thing?



posted on Oct, 15 2006 @ 11:12 PM
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stereotype being refered to as "negative" is the image of a buncha nut cases in camo, toting big arse guns around and living in some backwoods arena where they bash the government all day and drink themselves into oblviion all night... LMAO...

Uhm...if that's the "image" the poster was talking about...then you may never want to visit Red Deer Alberta...hyuk.

I think the term survivalist for most means just that however...although the "stigma" of the negative conotation is there...it's an uneducated one and I don't think it should really have any impact on naming the forum The "survivalist Forum"...(if that's the anticipated name?)

IMO anyway.




posted on Oct, 16 2006 @ 06:48 AM
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First off, a big "thank you!" to everyone out there supporting this forum. If you want to spread the word subtly, there's a link in my sig that a number of you have already asked if you can copy into your own sig. The answer is a hearty "Hell yeah, and thank you!" The response to this forum suggestion gives me much pride in ATS and the community we've become.


Originally posted by dAlen
Maybe some podcast and videocast, that would be excellent.


Actually, I just picked up the equipment and software neccessary to take the footage from our video camera and make it into podcasts. I'm sure others have the means as well. A lot of these techniques (especially how to properly tie a splint, lash poles, tying knots, apply a tournaquet, to name a few) are much more clear when shown in video rather than simply by words.
So, yeah, expect some podcasts, at least from me, probably others as well.



Originally posted by spacedoubt
Perhaps if the forum used a term other than "survivalist". Even though that is perfectly descriptive, it does have a negative sterotype attached to it..


I know the stereotype you're talking about, but am unconcerned about it.

Every term describing a group of humans has at least one negative stereotype attached to it, be it a particular occupation, ethnicity, religion, social class, hobby, or pasttime. I have never cared for political correctness, nor for the eternal quest to find a neutral and blandly inoffensive minispeak term to describe anything and everything. If we chose another word for "Survivalist", it would only be a matter of time before it too had a negative connotation, somewhere, by someone.

The term "Survivalist" is fitting, describes the subject matter perfectly, arouses interest, and truth be told, this "stereotype" are typically the ones who live through Situation X. Let's just call it what it is and let our threads speak louder than our stereotype.



posted on Oct, 16 2006 @ 11:24 AM
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Just wanted to say I vote yes for a Survival forum, too. And I think it should be on ATS for the reasons already mentioned. I know my personal preparations are in the event of something that would be considered a conspiracy-related subject. And it's a serious matter, not "for fun" like BTS. Many people who visit ATS never go to BTS.

I have a lot to learn about survival.


Originally posted by ceci2006
And if there is an agenda that supports a particular group (especially those that came to prominence in the early nineties)
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However, I believe that people need to be straight forward and admit where they want to take this. ... So, put the cards on the table.


To what group are you referring? You obviously have a particular group in mind. Why not say it? Who came into prominance in the early 90s? Lay your cards on the table. Be straightforward and admit your suspicions...



posted on Oct, 16 2006 @ 11:50 AM
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Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic

Originally posted by ceci2006
And if there is an agenda that supports a particular group (especially those that came to prominence in the early nineties) However, I believe that people need to be straight forward and admit where they want to take this.

To what group are you referring? You obviously have a particular group in mind.


Seriously. Exactly what are you talking about Ceci??? What 'particular group' came into prominence in the 90s that you think has an agenda and that people here are supporting??

Like BH said .. you want people to be 'straight forward' ... well then take your own advice. Fess up. What are you accusing ATSers of being and what agenda are you accusing ATSers of pushing by wanting a survival forum ??



posted on Oct, 16 2006 @ 12:00 PM
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Hell Yeah




To what group are you referring? You obviously have a particular group in mind. Why not say it? Who came into prominance in the early 90s? Lay your cards on the table. Be straightforward and admit your suspicions...


The Republicans would be my best guess. That is when they began their stranglehold on power in the USA.



posted on Oct, 16 2006 @ 12:04 PM
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Originally posted by sardion2000
The Republicans would be my best guess.

Clintons were in the White House since the early 90s. It can't be republicans. It wouldn't fit her statement either. Those posting 'yes' on this thread are from all political leanings. We will just have to wait and see exactly what she was accusing ATS members of.



posted on Oct, 16 2006 @ 12:11 PM
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When did they regain control they House and Senate again? 94'? 96'? Help me out here, I'm not American remember? Could be Bin Laden as well now that I think about it.



posted on Oct, 16 2006 @ 12:15 PM
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'Nuther vote for the forum. Sounds like a good idear to me.



posted on Oct, 16 2006 @ 12:41 PM
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Ceci2006 voted yes to the forum, and raised a fair concern and was answered with all due respect and honesty. As far as I can tell, the matter was satisfactorily settled.

To be honest, I didn't even think twice about it. In today's day and age, with everyone having an agenda it seems, and on a board with members as paranoid as ATSers tend to be (myself included) it seemed like a fairly logical question to ask. Survival groups are sometimes nothing more than masked supremist agendas, be they racial, religious, or political in nature. It's a sad fact of life, but not one that is exclusive to survivalists either.

So let's not re-open the issue. We've firmly established there are no alternate agendas here except for keeping each other alive in the event of Situation X.

And to be honest, I hope to god Situation X never ever happens.




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