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Djarums:
Not everything is Bush. This guy made a choice to abandon the US and assist a group who's goal is to kill Americans. That is treason. There is simply no free speech issue here.
Pyros:
US Consitution, Article III, Section 3:
"Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court.
marg:
Scary times I see ahead of us regular Joes in our nation, when it seems that our political leaders can play with laws and definitions of words to suit their needs.
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This new presidential choice of word as everything else is nothing than more striping of citizens rights, I guess our constitution is nothing more than a piece of paper as good as the one use in the toilet.
Now our government will tell who is an American and who is a traitor depending of personal needs at the moment.
Lazarus:
A judgement sets precedence... the ever mighty overrule of the courts.
It is the gist of that precendence, and how it is interpreted, that will doom America, or add to its security...
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But for the record... We do need clear language here... because I suspect, as do others, that we are in for some vietnamish years ahead... (as far as protests)
Originally posted by the libra
You asking me (or anyone else) to "prove" that Al Qaeda wishes Americans harm is ridiculous
Originally posted by Pyros
Al Qaeda desires the total destruction of our government and the forceful conversion of our population to Islam.
Originally posted by MemoryShock
Originally posted by the libra
You asking me (or anyone else) to "prove" that Al Qaeda wishes Americans harm is ridiculous
Missed my point.....I of course do not expect proof of their wishes....nor for their christmas lists' for that matter.
Originally posted by Edn
It just ocured to me, could they be putting him on the most wanted list as a kind of example to the rest of the public? "do as we say or this will happen to you"
Originally posted by Edn
Just seam to be makeing a bit of a big deal out of it thats all.
Originally posted by thelibra
Okay, so you don't need proof AQ hates the USA and wants to kill innocent civilians.
Originally posted by thelibra
This guy joins AQ, gets charged with treason, and some people have the gall to suggest he's like one of the original U.S. revolutionaries. To which I still adamantly disagree and take offense at. That about sum it up?
If this indictment will hold in court - and I'm afraid it will -
by Nygdan:
: If this indictment will hold in court - and I'm afraid it will -
Huh?
This guy is clearly a traitor. Whats the problem here. Its a perfectly proper application of the law against treason. Hopefully they will catch him and execute him.
Originally posted by marg6043
Now why him? doesn't that smells suspicious to you?
How long it will take when traitor becomes widely use and apply to anybody else beside somebody joining a terrorist group that goes against our country's government.
Doesn't people that goes against the policies of the US and is an American can be tagged a traitor?
This is an agenda.
khunmoon
it the furthermost charge in the civic penal system and should be reserved for those who shall deserve it,
something far more sinister than just reading from a script dressed in an outlandish outfit.
It draws the line so tight that soon any of us might get cornered.
A young kid in a net-cafe wanted to show off his guts to the other kids, so he writes a mail to the State Department designated to the PM. It read: "You'll be dead within 9 days".
". Of cause they traced him in a few hours and within a week had express sentenced him to some month in jail. A 16-year old kid!
and of course, these terror laws are set up to undercover introduce the Police State
Originally posted by Nygdan
.... So in order to prevent the police state, we have to let people be permitted to work with groups like al-qaida, which, in case it hasn't set in for anyone, plans and carries out murderous attacks on America and Americans?
Can we at least arrest bin ladin without being fascists?
Originally posted by marg6043
So still it makes no sense at all trying to bring this terminology to target one man, so what happen to the one American boy that was found in Afghanistan? suppose to be fighting with the Taliban he name is John Walker Lindh?
Why he is not been charge with treason.