Originally posted by Omniscient
OK, I'm not particularly fond of the United States government. HOWEVER, we are in nowhere near the condition that North Korea is, at least not yet.
Of course America has poor people. Many of them are poor because they choose to be, whether they choose to accept that or not. In North Korea,
nearly EVERYONE is poor and nearly EVERYONE gets barely any food, apart from the military....... The US may have its poor people and homeless people,
but we also have the richest.
- Thank you for the reply. I think you hit the point in your last line. Take a look at what Korea has to work with, then look at what America has to
work with. Then take a look at the relative suffering on both sides. At the very least I think we can agree that while Korea may not be able to feed,
care, manage and provide all the "luxeries"(Like medication, education, etc) America clearly could. That is what makes this much closure than "No
where near" IMO.
Originally posted by Omniscient
I think your statement was made without thinking about what you said. While USA might be experiencing changes slowly leading to a more imperial
state, it was nowhere NEAR the magnitude of "horrible" that NK is in right now. They are making these threats because they have NOTHING to lose.
On the contrary, the US has EVERYTHING to lose being the #1 world superpower, at least temporarily.
- Well as much as I'd like to argue the statement was made without thinking, it does happen quite a bit. However, I don't think I am off of what I
said, I do think it is being misintrerprited(sp?). Seriously think about it. Your news is censored. Your politicians have been caught lying and
nothing has been done about it. Possibly 2 elections were stolen, and 2600+ servicemen and women are dead without any public approval, debate and none
is going to be forthcoming. America may not be a despotic regime on par with Korea, but make no mistake that the seeds are planted, and it only took 5
years from going to having the complete world behind you and being a full democracy to where we are today. Which is really quite scary.
Now, please remember I am not saying that the USA is as horrible as such and such a country. Very few countries do I consider a better place than
America - and ultimately that is just a personal opinion. But when you condemn a country for being bad because the leader is crazy - then your leader
shouldn't have done anything crazy in recent memory. If you are going to condemn a country because of their military ambitions, then you shouldn't
be demonstrating your own military ambitions.. My claims that you have to be put in jail because you constently beat your wife, wouldn't have very
much power if my wife walks in sporting a shiner thanks to her once a week beatings.... I am not sure how this is so hard to understand?
Ultimately the US is still(hopefully) a democracy, and IMO I think the only thing that is reassuring anyone on this planet right now is that while
most are sure your leader and his Admin is nuts, we all know that on an overall scale America is filled with great people who will eventually take
back their government and this craziness will end. At least thats my hope.
Anyway, what is really the chance that NK has the ability to do any damage to anyone other than their neighbours, and if they don't mind then why
bother?
. Indeed things will become interesting in
the near future, and probably in a very negative way...
